Original RRT-01 group buy, New Old Stock, unmodified. Closed

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Original RRT-01 group buy, New Old Stock, unmodified. Closed

Update, this Group Buy is closed. No new orders accepted as of 8/27/19

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Gauging interest

A new wave of Stock Original RRT-01, with short pocket clips, in original packaging.

$90, free shipping.

Seeking people to express interest.
I need to reach a minimum order quantity of Ten.

please PM me how many lights you would want, and your location

You are not committed until after I gauge interest, and request payment

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These are New Old Stock from Australia

disclaimer
There will likely be some variation in control ring feel.
I will not be doing any Quality Control inspections,
Im just reshipping to save postage after asking the seller for a group discount to reduce the final cost to you.

For reference, the retail price is $99 and it costs About. $16 in shipping (no tracking, or about $21 w tracking)… Im trying to save the group about $25-$30 per light.

I will share any modding supplies sources I have freely,
including LED, mcpcb, reflector, driver, lubricants, clips, glow tails.. disassembly info, whatever I can do to help. This thread has all the supplies info in one place.

Edited by: jon_slider on 08/27/2019 - 13:26
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How does the old version compare with the new ones?

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Interested in one – might as well go for having 3 old and 3 new

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SKV89 wrote:
How does the old version compare with the new ones?

I think most of the details to answer your question are in this post

basically the new one is fatter, heavier, and brighter, and has strobe

the original is slimmer, lighter, has a pocket clip I prefer, I do wish it had strobe instead of SOS

IF you plan to mod the Original, there are reflectors that work, and they can accept the new driver that has strobe

modding supplies details here

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shirnask wrote:
Interested in one – might as well go for having 3 old and 3 new

me too
I gave one away, Im down to just 5 SIR!
(SteplessInfiniteRotary)

And feel free to share your thoughts on the pros and cons of your 2019 and Original RRT-01 models.. Ive only had the Original… its almost a grail light for me..

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I liked the original, but found I had to lock it out by twisting the head from the body as to not have “hot pockets”.

I gave it to my dad and it is his go-to favorite light.

Thier ain’t no bones in a hot dog. F. York

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noboneshotdog wrote:
“hot pockets”

mine have never done that
the detentes in the off position work for my style of carry (clipped in back pocket)

with one exception
One of my Eye10 has the detente ball removed, to make the dial smoother..
it works buttery smooth, but the dial can move, a little.. no hot pockets in my case
It is easy to lock out, thanks to anodized threads.

some detentes are stiffer than others, they do vary, partly due to variations in grease quantity

glad your dad enjoys it

starting a rumor
the RRT-01 makes a good Dad light
lol

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in for one ?

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In for one of the old RRT01s. Thanks.

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thanks to those of you that are expressing interest, by posting and by PM

update, interest is now 7 lights, unmodified

I might offer modded versions later but Im just learning and am not quite ready to commit, plus the price will change

this deal is intended to share stock lights, for those that can do their own mods. This is a not for profit offering, just because I want to help people save over the cost of a single unit retail

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Does the old version have the same parasitic drain issue?

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I think yes, both old and new have a parasitic drain that will kill a battery in about 1 1/2 years. (about 50uA)

That can be eliminated by locking the light out by unscrewing by half a twist. Since the threads are anodised, this works well. Since I use several of my SIR lights daily, I charge my batteries more than once a month, so the parasitic drain is not a meaningful issue for my use style.

fwiw though, the power draw goes up when the light is turned on, even on the lowest dimmest mode. I was suprised to discover that. I think the battery would be drained in about 3 days if used 24/7, as a nightlight for example. So I dont do that. FWIW, that is also how long an HDS lasts, when its on its dimmest mode using a 16340.

A CR123 will run about 7 days. The RRT-01 can also take a 1200mAh 18350.

Im not a runtime cockroach sort of person… I have no personal interest in a light that can run for 30 days at sublumen levels. I carry spare batteries.

My personal preference is NOT to have a clicky in addition to a control ring, which is why I sold my HDS when I discovered the RRT-01. But I respect that different people have different preferences, and a clicky on a light with a dial does have the benefit of a “memory” function.

The RRT-01 always starts on minimum, unless we use lockout to preserve the last dial position.

If you are concerned about parasitic drain, you may prefer a V11r, since it has a clicky that cuts power completely. It is also thinner, some people, understandably, find it slightly less bulky in pocket than an RRT-01.

For me, the RRT-01 is just right. I love not having to click before I dial, and I love that the RRT-01 SIR (SteplessInfiniteRotary) has such a simple UI that even a muggle can figure it out. With an HDS, I use the manual, to remind me of all the programming options.. but I dont actually need those features.

the one feature that imho the RRT-01 lacks, is LVP
The Original RRT-01 does not accept a Protected 18350, the 2019 RRT-01 does.

when I use 18350 in my Original RRT-01’s, I watch for loss of lumens, and verify voltage regularly, especially after a prolonged use cycle…

so, given all that
How many Original RRT-01 would you like to express interest in?:-)

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I left the battery in my new RRT-01 and it completely drained in a few months. Luckily the battery can be revived using my Xtar Dragon VP4 charger.

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Must have it every collection. Good luck Jon!

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I’m in for one if you do eventually sell it modded. I don’t have any equipment/skills to do it myself

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so can bones.

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SKV89 wrote:
I left the battery in my new RRT-01 and it completely drained in a few months. Luckily the battery can be revived using my Xtar Dragon VP4 charger.

Thanks for sharing your experience.. can you be more specific, how many months do you think “a few” is?

Some explanation about overdischarge protection built into a battery, such as the one comes with your 2019 RRT-01:

When an overdischarge protection built into a battery is triggered, the battery will read 0 volts. Don’t worry, that tells you the protection circuit was triggered, at 2.5v

When a protected battery that has tripped the protection circuit, is put on a charger, or the built in charger on the battery, is plugged into a mini-USB cord, that resets the protection circuit and the battery will no longer read 0 volts. You can test it with a DMM after the battery has been on a charger for a few seconds, and you will see no less than 2.5 volts.

When a protection circuit is tripped, the 0 volts is not the internal voltage of the battery. The over discharge protection had turned off the battery circuit, to protect it.

recap, explanation
If you are using a protected battery, and while using the light it turns completely off, suddenly, that means the protection circuit is preventing the battery from being damaged by overdischarge. When the protection circuit is triggered, the battery reads 0 volts on a DMM. That resets when the battery is placed on a charger.

It is not necessary to use a special charger, plugging in the USB battery charger built into the battery that came with your 2019 RRT-01, will also reset the protection circuit and recharge.

Wrathbringer27 wrote:
I’m in for one if you do eventually sell it modded. I don’t have any equipment/skills to do it myself

thanks for letting me know
you are one of Three people that have expressed interest in a modded RRT-01

I will follow up when I feel competent, or, you can send a light to a modder, such as Vinh. I think his fee is $50 plus postage.

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Count me in for one! Many thanks for facilitating this group buy!

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thank you all for your interest

I wrote to the supplier to ask for a price that will make this possible

the total interest list is 7 lights, less than my goal, but if the price is right, I will facilitate it.

Once I confirm pricing, I will post to request payments to my paypal, and proceed

This is for NotModded Original RRT-01 only. The window of opportunity is closing soon.. speak now, or naught Smile

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Holly Marry Mother of God!
I missed this. If not too late put me in for 1

Thx

WTB Titanium 4sevens Quarks & Jetbeam TCR1

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id30209, you are not too late

so far I have received contact for possible interest in a total of 8 lights, Not Modified.

The seller will not give the discount unless we buy a minimum of 10, so as of today, this group buy is not ready for payment commitment

I will be available if the interest list goes up to 10 lights.

it could still happen
but not so far

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I don’t want to let this opportunity pass – add one more for me – total of two

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that works
interest is now 9, I will be #10

time to make it real
paypal me $90 for each light, goods and services so you know you are protected. I will pay the fees, and i will place the order as soon as the 9 lights spoken for are paid, plus mine to make the 10 minimum.

thank you all for your faith in me
my paypal is jon_slider at yahoo dot com
please mention your BLF user name w your payment, and I will confirm when this order is placed

you can order as many lights as you like, there is no upper limit, I just need 10 to get the discount that is going to cover the “free” postage to your door, even if you are not in USA..

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Paypal payment sent for 2 Original RRT-01’s

Thanks

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PP sent for one RRT
Thx!

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shirnask wrote:
Paypal payment sent for 2 Original RRT-01’s

Thanks

shirnask Confirmed for TWO, thank you

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id30209 wrote:
PP sent for one RRT
Thx!
id30209 Confirmed for ONE, thank you

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PP as well for 1x.

I am jealous of your aqua CRX!

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takumi86 wrote:
PP as well for 1x.

I am jealous of your aqua CRX!

confirmed, thank you for joining the group
for others, here is the CRX and pinkpanda collaboration Im calling AcquaMan!

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You guys might get someone to do a run of triple spacers. After that the mod is doable with some basic mod skills.

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Payment for 1x RRT-01 sent via paypal. Thanks again.

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Geuzzz wrote:
You guys might get someone to do a run of triple spacers. After that the mod is doable with some basic mod skills.
Good idea! I look forward to someone doing that, if triples make people happy. I actually prefer singles atm.. but both is better.. lol

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Payment for 1x RRT-01 sent via paypal. Thanks again.
Confirmed! thank you for helping all of us get the discount.. just a few more people left to pay and I will place the order.. will let you know
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Hey Jonathan, Is it too late to get in on this?

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welcoime INFRNL!

youre most welcome to join, I plan to place the order as soon as I get all the payments
I still need a couple more people to paypal me

let me know how many, they are $90 w free shipping

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