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Hank, what kind of regulated driver?

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Pavlo wrote:
Hank, what kind of regulated driver?

There are actually two versions.
One is the 5A Linear regularted driver for the Osram, SST-20, XP-L LED.
The other is the boost 2A/12V driver which is for the XHP35 LED.

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JordanZHP wrote:
Hank do you have any thoughts on the different types of Osram leds in this light,
such as White Flat 1mm (CSLNM1.TG) vs White Flat 2mm (CSLPM1.TG)?
Yes, of course, I have tested both of them.

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Stoked to see the boost driver! Thanks Hank

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500kcd!!! Take my money interested! Big Smile

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I’m in for this one. Love it, can’t wait! Thanks for the update.

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Hank Wang wrote:
Yes, we do the customs build, bascially, any 3535 footprint, 3V based LED can be put into it.

Hank, can you offer a custom build with Osram Ostar Projection Compact LE R Q8WP (625nm) with up to 700lm of red light at max. 5A i.a.w. the datasheet

 

I have this LED installed in theAmutorch New VG10 (bought from Neal) and it makes an amazing bright red thrower. This LED installed into the Noctigon K1 would be great and should perfectly fit to the driver specs.

 

 

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Hank Wang wrote:
One is the 5A Linear regularted driver for the Osram, SST-20, XP-L LED.

I’m a little sad this isn’t buck/boost or at least buck. I actually find myself contemplating XHP35 over SST-20 now.

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Looks great!

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Hank Wang wrote:
Pavlo wrote:
Hank, what kind of regulated driver?
There are actually two versions. One is the 5A Linear regularted driver for the Osram, SST-20, XP-L LED. The other is the boost 2A/12V driver which is for the XHP35 LED.

I’m hoping for XHP35 HI CRI version then Cool

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XHP35 3000K or 2700K hi cri for penetrating the fog would be great

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I guess it doesn’t use Anduril because of the buck/boost driver, does it?

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Anthon wrote:
I guess it doesn’t use Anduril because of the buck/boost driver, does it?
Hank Wang wrote:
Anduril UI, yes, fully regulated driver (not DD) with Anduril UI.
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Hank Wang wrote:
id30209 wrote:

Hank Wang wrote:
Yes, we do the customs build, bascially, any 3535 footprint, 3V based LED can be put into it.

Would you consider SST90.2?

I don’t think so, as far as I know, the SST90.2 willl need 20A+ to push it to the maximum
performance, the stock driver can not deliver such high current.

Yes it will only make sense on direct drive. The NI40 SBT90 pulls 22 with a 40T. Would really appreciate it if you could make a FET/DD SBT90 version LOL

Could also make it regulated but have turbo in direct drive.

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Hank Wang wrote:
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UI? Should be on/off Smile
Mike
Anduril UI, yes, fully regulated driver (not DD) with Anduril UI.

That driver sounds great. Now put it in a right angle headlamp next, please. Smile

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Here, the 50E is your best bet.

Do you know where can I buy this battery for lowest price?
Delivery to EU.

Thank you

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Hank Wang wrote:
There are actually two versions. One is the 5A Linear regularted driver for the Osram, SST-20, XP-L LED. The other is the boost 2A/12V driver which is for the XHP35 LED.

Looks like I’ll be getting 2 lights Big Smile
I sure hope these will come in green and blue to match my other Emisar lights.

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Looks great Hank, a real eye opener that I will surely have to buy as soon as it’s listed! Somebody PM me when it goes on sale please so I don’t sleep through it. C? Wake me up man! Lol

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So the Osram emitter will be getting around 1.5km throw, which is incredible. What kind of throw (and lumens) will the XHP35 HI version have?

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I’d love a 3000K XHP-35HI version.

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zak.wilson wrote:
Hank Wang wrote:
One is the 5A Linear regularted driver for the Osram, SST-20, XP-L LED.

I’m a little sad this isn’t buck/boost or at least buck. I actually find myself contemplating XHP35 over SST-20 now.

If the Osram/SST20 version was buck / boost, I would have had a hard time deciding which to get.
Based on the two options, the decision is easy for me, XHP35 all the way.

I hope Hank offers the XHP35 version with warm white 80 and 90 CRI options.
As others have mentioned, warm white penetrates fog so much better. I also find it adds contrast and definition.

Looking forward to see the numbers on throw and lumens. I suspect the XHP35 will be about twice as bright (lumens) as the 3V version, with similar throw.

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Hank Wang wrote:
JordanZHP wrote:
Hank if you see this thread we would love an update on this project Smile

Yes, we are still working on it, here is the prototype photo, it’s not called D1SV2, it’s called Noctigon K1,
with fully regulated driver, it should reach 600+kcd with CSLNM1.TG LED, there will be green/red
beam version, as well as XP-L HI/HD LED with different color temperature.


This is lovely !

F.i.l.a.s wrote:
Hank, could you add an SST20 95CRI (3000k or 3500k or 4000k) as stock light option? A lot of people is interested in this version, as I am. Big reflecter and regulated driver makes all sence for this Hi CRI throwy led.

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Hank Wang wrote:
Pavlo wrote:
Hank, what kind of regulated driver?
There are actually two versions. One is the 5A Linear regularted driver for the Osram, SST-20, XP-L LED. The other is the boost 2A/12V driver which is for the XHP35 LED.

I’m hoping for XHP35 HI CRI version then Cool

Ryzbor wrote:
I’d love a 3000K XHP-35HI version.
SKV89 wrote:
XHP35 3000K or 2700K hi cri for penetrating the fog would be great
Pavlo wrote:
zak.wilson wrote:
I’m a little sad this isn’t buck/boost or at least buck. I actually find myself contemplating XHP35 over SST-20 now.

If the Osram/SST20 version was buck / boost, I would have had a hard time deciding which to get.
Based on the two options, the decision is easy for me, XHP35 all the way.

I hope Hank offers the XHP35 version with warm white 80 and 90 CRI options.
As others have mentioned, warm white penetrates fog so much better. I also find it adds contrast and definition.

Looking forward to see the numbers on throw and lumens. I suspect the XHP35 will be about twice as bright (lumens) as the 3V version, with similar throw.

For 2700K, the SST-20 version could be the best bet, as it has deeper reds, than XHP35 HI (I would still take a 2700K XHP35 HI 90CRI, if it were offered).

For 3500K and 4000K, SST-20 has again strikingly good tint. I have SST-20 3500K and 4000K in Convoy C8 at 3.5A, and the tints I got for these CCT are definitely greenish/yellowish, when driven at low currents, but at 3.5A and above, even these can improve a lot, and they can be feel as almost spot on BBL with reflectors (with TIR, the situation would not be near this good).

If there could be a buck driver for the 3V LEDs instead of a linear driver, then these variants could have noticeably better runtimes on the highest setting, before temperature regulation starts to kick in. It is another question, that maybe a good buck driver around 4.5-5A could be more expensive – personally, I could justify 7-10 extra $ per unit, if I could buy these with a buck driver.

Regarding only efficiency (as of current driver options), I would also vote for the XHP35 HI variants (one 3500K 90CRI and one 4500K 90CRI for sure) – if I take throw/heat ratio, the SST-20 should win, but I guess, not with a linear driver.

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Personally i dont like SST20, i prefer tge XHP35 variant.
And ofcourse the Osram for a laser beam Wink

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And please make the crowd favorite, XHP35 HI 4500K CRI80 (XHP35A-H0-0000-0D0HC445E), an option.

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Maukka, has anyone tested that variant? What is the DUV?

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Yes, that’s the XHP35 HI I think most people would like to see. Fantastic tint.

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I have it in my Zebralight sc600w Hi and it is indeed really good!

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SKV89 wrote:
Maukka, has anyone tested that variant? What is the DUV?

http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1560964#comment-1560964

Low to High:

Ambient = 1065.7 Lux, CCT = 4199K (Duv 0.0026)
Color Rendering Index (Ra) = 80.0 [ R9 = 13.0 ] R1 = 78.9 R2 = 82.6 R3 = 86.5 R4 = 81.4 R5 = 79.3 R6 = 77.3 R7 = 85.2 R8 = 68.9 R9 = 13.0 R10 = 60.6 R11 = 81.6 R12 = 61.7 R13 = 78.5 R14 = 92.6

Ambient = 6972.3 Lux, CCT = 4429K (Duv 0.0048)
Color Rendering Index (Ra) = 78.5 [ R9 = 3.9 ] R1 = 76.4 R2 = 81.1 R3 = 86.3 R4 = 79.8 R5 = 77.2 R6 = 75.4 R7 = 84.9 R8 = 66.6 R9 = 3.9 R10 = 57.5 R11 = 79.3 R12 = 58.7 R13 = 76.3 R14 = 92.7

Ambient = 36717.2 Lux, CCT = 4390K (Duv 0.0051)
Color Rendering Index (Ra) = 78.4 [ R9 = 1.8 ] R1 = 76.0 R2 = 81.3 R3 = 86.9 R4 = 79.5 R5 = 76.7 R6 = 75.4 R7 = 85.3 R8 = 65.7 R9 = 1.8 R10 = 57.8 R11 = 78.4 R12 = 57.7 R13 = 76.0 R14 = 93.1

Ambient = 98188.8 Lux, CCT = 4684K (Duv 0.0025)
Color Rendering Index (Ra) = 78.8 [ R9 = 0.7 ] R1 = 76.3 R2 = 82.6 R3 = 87.8 R4 = 79.0 R5 = 77.0 R6 = 76.2 R7 = 85.7 R8 = 65.6 R9 = 0.7 R10 = 59.6 R11 = 76.7 R12 = 57.6 R13 = 76.8 R14 = 93.8

In addition, it’s super hard to get a reading because there’s a slight tinge of yellow in the hot spot and I guess my hand is not steady enough to not have “inconsistent reading” like 3/4 of the time.

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Thanks for the info! With such a high duv, it’s going to look too yellowish eventhough I like 4500K. I wish there was an A or D tint XHP35 HI 80CRI.

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SKV89 wrote:
Maukka, has anyone tested that variant? What is the DUV?

http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1560964#comment-1560964

Low to High:

Ambient = 1065.7 Lux, CCT = 4199K (Duv 0.0026)
Color Rendering Index (Ra) = 80.0 [ R9 = 13.0 ] R1 = 78.9 R2 = 82.6 R3 = 86.5 R4 = 81.4 R5 = 79.3 R6 = 77.3 R7 = 85.2 R8 = 68.9 R9 = 13.0 R10 = 60.6 R11 = 81.6 R12 = 61.7 R13 = 78.5 R14 = 92.6

Ambient = 6972.3 Lux, CCT = 4429K (Duv 0.0048)
Color Rendering Index (Ra) = 78.5 [ R9 = 3.9 ] R1 = 76.4 R2 = 81.1 R3 = 86.3 R4 = 79.8 R5 = 77.2 R6 = 75.4 R7 = 84.9 R8 = 66.6 R9 = 3.9 R10 = 57.5 R11 = 79.3 R12 = 58.7 R13 = 76.3 R14 = 92.7

Ambient = 36717.2 Lux, CCT = 4390K (Duv 0.0051)
Color Rendering Index (Ra) = 78.4 [ R9 = 1.8 ] R1 = 76.0 R2 = 81.3 R3 = 86.9 R4 = 79.5 R5 = 76.7 R6 = 75.4 R7 = 85.3 R8 = 65.7 R9 = 1.8 R10 = 57.8 R11 = 78.4 R12 = 57.7 R13 = 76.0 R14 = 93.1

Ambient = 98188.8 Lux, CCT = 4684K (Duv 0.0025)
Color Rendering Index (Ra) = 78.8 [ R9 = 0.7 ] R1 = 76.3 R2 = 82.6 R3 = 87.8 R4 = 79.0 R5 = 77.0 R6 = 76.2 R7 = 85.7 R8 = 65.6 R9 = 0.7 R10 = 59.6 R11 = 76.7 R12 = 57.6 R13 = 76.8 R14 = 93.8

In addition, it’s super hard to get a reading because there’s a slight tinge of yellow in the hot spot and I guess my hand is not steady enough to not have “inconsistent reading” like 3/4 of the time.

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maukka wrote:
And please make the crowd favorite, XHP35 HI 4500K CRI80 (XHP35A-H0-0000-0D0HC445E), an option.

That would be SWEET !

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