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I was also thinking about White1^^^
But i’d say option of SMO or OP reflector should available also

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scosgt wrote:

I have been looking for the thread about different optics for the FW3. I think you can narrow the beam. I agree, for the same approximate output the FW is very very floody and the E01 gives a pretty nice throw, without a real defined hotspot. Does anyone know where I can find the differences in the optics for the FW3?

I don’t pocket carry because my pockets are full with gun, shield case, change, car fob etc. The FW3 in a small case is almost idea for EDC. The E01 does carry slightly bigger, but I find it to be a much better all around light.

I set up one of my FW3A’s this weekend with LH351D 3500k’s and I found the beam to be way to wide. I had a Carlco narrow spot optic sitting in the drawer, that was the key! It is much better, would like it to be a little tighter, but Carclo does not make an ultra-narrow optic.

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will34 wrote:
I’ve been thinking about the benefits of EDC’ing a single emitter version of the FW3A long before they made a sample, as there wasn’t much of a difference between it and the D4 (performance wise). More throw is always useful for anything further than 10 meters away.

But a reflector version would also remain a shelf queen for the same reason I didn’t ever EDC any of the many S2+, X1R, A6 or similar tube lights I’ve owned or modded, that beam gets boring and unexciting over time no matter the emitter choice. There simply isn’t going to be any magic with a 20mm reflector. The best tube light reflector I’ve ever seen was in a eagletac D3C, it was clean very throwy but even then I still sold it.

Now optics is a whole new unexplored world, after having the FW3A as EDC for a few months, I think the perfect setup would be either a XPL HI V4 or a 1mm2 in a very tight optic, stonewashed titanium body, which paired with the current FW from TK will deliver amazing thermal regulation,

I have recently played with various 20mm 3535 Yajiamei Optics, and various LED’s. SST-20, 219C, XP-L HI, XP-L HD, LH351D. So many different beams from just one optic, and add another 8 different optics on top of that and you’re having a great time. Going out in the field for a night? Easy, just pop in a 10 degree optic. Want a smooth beam at your house? Easy, just pop in a 30 degree beaded optic.

I don’t have a problem with the light being released with a 20mm reflector, because that would give us the option to install 20mm optics.

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mattlward wrote:
scosgt wrote:

I have been looking for the thread about different optics for the FW3. I think you can narrow the beam. I agree, for the same approximate output the FW is very very floody and the E01 gives a pretty nice throw, without a real defined hotspot. Does anyone know where I can find the differences in the optics for the FW3?

I don’t pocket carry because my pockets are full with gun, shield case, change, car fob etc. The FW3 in a small case is almost idea for EDC. The E01 does carry slightly bigger, but I find it to be a much better all around light.

I set up one of my FW3A’s this weekend with LH351D 3500k’s and I found the beam to be way to wide. I had a Carlco narrow spot optic sitting in the drawer, that was the key! It is much better, would like it to be a little tighter, but Carclo does not make an ultra-narrow optic.

Mine has 5D XP-L HIs with a 10507 and it’s pretty much perfect; it gives it a pretty focused beam (for a multi emitter light). The SST-20 is even more focused with the narrow spot, noticeably so compared to the HIs

Current rotation lights: EDC; FW3A (XP-L Hi 5D) | Headlamp; H03 (NW) | Thrower; Emisar D1 (5D) | Keychain; Sofirn C01 (5600k)

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mattlward wrote:
scosgt wrote:

I have been looking for the thread about different optics for the FW3. I think you can narrow the beam. I agree, for the same approximate output the FW is very very floody and the E01 gives a pretty nice throw, without a real defined hotspot. Does anyone know where I can find the differences in the optics for the FW3?

I don’t pocket carry because my pockets are full with gun, shield case, change, car fob etc. The FW3 in a small case is almost idea for EDC. The E01 does carry slightly bigger, but I find it to be a much better all around light.

I set up one of my FW3A’s this weekend with LH351D 3500k’s and I found the beam to be way to wide. I had a Carlco narrow spot optic sitting in the drawer, that was the key! It is much better, would like it to be a little tighter, but Carclo does not make an ultra-narrow optic.

Before the FW3A thing went live I built an LH351D triple. The other day I swapped that LH351D board into one of my FW3As and I feel the same way. The XPL-HI and SST-20 beam works way better with the 10511 optic. I have the LH351D behind a 10507 in my S2+ triple now and it’s better suited to it. I’ve thought of desoldering all those LH351Ds from that board to use for something else and picking a different LED for the triple.

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Can’t wait for this one. The FW3A has the best form and UI of any light I’ve used or seen, but you just can’t beat a traditional single emitter with reflector. Even with the narrowest Carclo option, beyond a few meters the result is a big wall of light. That can be nice at times, but I’d gladly sacrifice two-thirds of the lumens for a little more beam distance. Just makes a more useful, all-purpose light, in my opinion.

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Henk4U2 wrote:

Some people would like to have an ultra flooder like the A6 and some want a much more throwing light. And the last will be a challenge if the dimensions are (already?) fixed to roughly 100mm length.

So I would suggest a TIR optic for the FW1A.
My experience with TIR optics is that the beam is almost always quite good (intensity distribution, tint-shift).
And within the size limits even a thrower would be in reach if we use a clear narrow optic (8 degrees or less).

IMHO a FW1A with a short OP reflector would be nothing more than a crippled version of the FW3A.

Just my 2c.

The D1 variants are w/ reflectors and seem to do very well and people like them. The extra length and mass help w/ heat dissipation.

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The E01 from FireFlies does not have a reflector and it has a nicely focused beam with a very very nice throw.

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has any one tried FW3A  XPL HI 3D compare to Nichia 219C 4000K and SST20 4000k.

What is recommended for flood light and EDC

 

Thank you for the input...

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Very interested in FW1A!

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Neale said over PM that FW1A should be available in a week!money-mouthmoney-mouth

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Pretty excited about this. Any information on emitters or finishes?

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Edindevon wrote:
Pretty excited about this. Any information on emitters or finishes?

 

No clue! I’d be swaping emitters anyway so actually don’t care.

Only if they add 351D then i might leave this FW as is LOL

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id30209 wrote:

Edindevon wrote:
Pretty excited about this. Any information on emitters or finishes?

 


No clue! I’d be swaping emitters anyway so actually don’t care.


Only if they add 351D then i might leave this FW as is LOL


I agree, LH351D or 219C would be best. I expect this will come with an XP-L Hi, but we’ll see soon.

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Holding page is up on Neal’s site!

New web page for FW1A

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hodor wrote:
"Holding page":https://www.nealsgadgets.com/collections/blf/products/tlf-blf-fw1a-grey-... is up on Neal's site!

Yeap and accessories will be available around September 30. (18350/18500 tube and SS bezel)

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id30209 wrote:

hodor wrote:
Holding page is up on Neal’s site!

Yeap and accessories will be available around September 30. (18350/18500 tube and SS bezel)


This part of the shorty tubes also applies to the FW3A, right? Wink

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Thanks
FW1A is available to order
link:FW1A

COUPON CODE: BLFFW3A 20% off
same as the FW3A/FW3T coupon

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Chinaheart wrote:

has any one tried FW3A  XPL HI 3D compare to Nichia 219C 4000K and SST20 4000k.

What is recommended for flood light and EDC

 

Thank you for the input...

Between the XPL HI 3D @4750k and SST20 4000k LEDs, which would provide the greatest amount of throw? Both of these LEDs, as well as the XPL HI 1A @6500k, will apparently be offered by Neal in the FW3A.

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Neal that was fast.

Very nicely and I’m interested but as I understand the head of FW1 and FW3 have interchangeable bodies, correct?

If that’s true, than would it be feasible for you to sell just the head portion separately and perhaps exclude the led and driver if it will cut down the costs?

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Hi Neal! Any chance it will be available in different colours and finishes (e.g. raw)?

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SS bezel

Ooooooo

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Updating the first post now!

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ActiveAl wrote:

Chinaheart wrote:

has any one tried FW3A  XPL HI 3D compare to Nichia 219C 4000K and SST20 4000k.

What is recommended for flood light and EDC

 

Thank you for the input...

Between the XPL HI 3D @4750k and SST20 4000k LEDs, which would provide the greatest amount of throw? Both of these LEDs, as well as the XPL HI 1A @6500k, will apparently be offered by Neal in the FW3A.

 

Thanks Active A1 for the info.

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MtnDon wrote:
I need someone to describe why they prefer a single emitter light over the three.

Tailcap switch makes sense when holding the f/l raised the “tacical way”. I’m doing this to reduce shadows, usually to being able to light up something distant. For floody lights, I don’t want anything else than a sideswitch or magnetic ring, therefore the D4V2 won the race (for me!) If there was a FW1 with maximum throw in this class of lights (no OPR), I’d likely buy it … after extensive beta testing [by its customers, as usual].
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Edindevon wrote:
Pretty excited about this. Any information on emitters or finishes?

Looks like the choices are:
Luminus SST-20 4000K
Nichia 219C 4000K
Cree XPL-HI 1A (CW)
Cree XPL-HI 3D (NW)
Cree XPL-HI 7A (WW)

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I went with XPL 3D. Later easy swap with 351D and when SS bezel show up, the whole section will go to titanium FW3T

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ActiveAl, according to the specs, the XPL has more lumens and more throw.

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cabfrank wrote:
ActiveAl, according to the specs, the XPL has more lumens and more throw.

Tint and CRI is what am after. For throw i'll put White1 in 

 

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