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Flood for Home Defense ?

Looking for a compact , micro-usb rechargeable , < 1K Lumens , flood , for home defense .
A plus if it can do double duty as a night walker .

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Welcome to the BLF. I can’t believe I beat Racoon City to a welcome.

Are you asking for more than 1K lumens? And just how much flood do you want?

Olight SRII has a TIR lens that has a wide-ish center spot. USB charging. It’s color is cooler.

Zebralight makes compact floody lights. But misses on the built in charging.

Simon at the Convoy store has quite a few options.
https://convoy.aliexpress.com/store/330416

Many lights can modified by changing the front lens to a wider spot.

You might take a look at the 18650 forum and see what folks are using for EDC carry.
You will have more options if you go with an external charger. That way you can have an extra battery ready to go.

Flashaholics on youtube gives many comparisons.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=flashaholics

For some reason the BLF won’t post his address correctly. So I stuck in the search. He’s the top one.

Charles Bridgetec channel has very good beam shots and reviews LOTs of lights.
https://www.youtube.com/user/BridTec/videos

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Jeff

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Do you plan on mounting it to a pistol or a rifle?

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For home defense you need a gun, not a flashlight.

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No plans to mount on a weapon .

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Thanks jeff51 .
Asking for 1k or less .
SureFire MaxVision is my reference point for a flood .

Others have also suggested I look at Zebralight .
Re: Olight SRII ; there are so many Olight models with similar names ; it’s a bit confusing .
Are you suggesting the SR2 Baton ?

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It is proven that a well lightened house/garden will be less attractive to burglars.

Also turning on daylight using a 1000lm+ light in your garden. Will definitely scare burglars away and you will be able to see them.

Guns are not the awnser to everything.

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jeff51 wrote:

Welcome to the BLF. I can't believe I beat Racoon City to a welcome.

I usually just greet those that use the Introduce Yourself subforum.

I'm a jerk like that!  :BEER:

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Geuzzz wrote:
Guns are not the awnser to everything.

I agree, but they are the only suitable answer to a burglar who’s already made it INSIDE your house!

Once he’s inside his intentions are clear and shining a flashlight at him will do nothing but let him know your location…

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Cereal_killer wrote:
Geuzzz wrote:
Guns are not the awnser to everything.

I agree, but they are the only suitable answer to a burglar who’s already made it INSIDE your house!

Once he’s inside his intentions are clear and shining a flashlight at him will do nothing but let him know your location…

Yeap….far better to secure the dwellings to not let a burglar in or convince him to go elsewhere. But if he/she/they are inside then options are much more limited. Needing a flashlight implies it’s nighttime, and anyone breaking into a place at night has to assume it’s occupied and in my opinion not going to be deterred by a flashlight.
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SIGShooter wrote:
Needing a flashlight implies it’s nighttime, and anyone breaking into a place at night has to assume it’s occupied and in my opinion not going to be deterred by a flashlight.

Unless maybe you got one-a these… LOL

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Whatever flashlight you use for this, get training on low-light shooting!

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Lightbringer wrote:
SIGShooter wrote:
Needing a flashlight implies it’s nighttime, and anyone breaking into a place at night has to assume it’s occupied and in my opinion not going to be deterred by a flashlight.

Unless maybe you got one-a these… LOL

Nah….I prefer something with standoff range Smile

In truth I don’t think that the average person is going to win a close-in physical confrontation with someone who has broken into their place, especially if they’re carrying a weapon (knife, club, etc) of any kind. Movies and television not withstanding of course Smile

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Convoy M21A, LD-B4 Driver 8-12A and MosX PCB, 3V XHP50.2. Set the driver to high to low, no mode memory. So when you turn it on, you know a lot of lumens comes out. Great beam too.

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Hasmal,

I found some beam shots of the Surfire you mentioned. It looks to me to have a brighter center area that has a gradual taper off moving away from the hot spot. It doesn’t look pure floody to me.
Take a look at the Convoy 2+ with the orange peel reflector with the XM-L2. The beam looks much the same to me on my S2+.
These are inexpensive and might be a good place to start. Pick up a battery or two and an inexpensive charger.

http://www.mtnelectronics.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=80&pr...

I dislike the UI on this light however. But the Low – Medium – High – Strobe might work for you.

Also consider the Emisar D4v2. It will run below 1000 Lumens, but has the ability to go way beyond that for brief periods. Indoors it is truly amazingly bright.

http://www.mtnelectronics.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=80&pr...

Both these need external charging.

And I guess we need to know what you mean by defense.
Is it to be used in conjunction with a firearm?
As a contact weapon itself?
Or just to try blind an intruder?

All the Best,
Jeff

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Like bringing a knife to a gun fight.

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Yes , I realize it’s like bringing a flashlight to a gun fight !
I was thinking of situational awareness and momentarily blinding an intruder .
For that application Elzetta Alpha Model A113 is one possibility .
No firearm and contact weapon only as last resort of course .

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Lightbringer – “Don’t worry about me. I’ve got the fork!”

LOL

“No, It’s the fat that makes you look fat…”

I loved that show

Take a look at this review of a WOWTAC A5 with a 26650 cell. Bright, Floody, USB charging.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWWy-W1496o

A little on the big side maybe.
All the Best,
Jeff

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Everyday Carry reviewed the Thrunite TT10 Tactical today :

https://everydaycarry.com/posts/36034/thrunite-tt10-tactical-flashlight

 

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I like this for floody, outside around the house stuff. I make a few walks around the perimeter at night. I like it. It’s built like a tank. Over 3000 lumens on a good high drain cell. Nice simple UI. No onboard charging though. If that is a deal breaker I better quit suggesting things. I don’t think I have a single light with onboard charging.

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Hashmal wrote:
Yes , I realize it’s like bringing a flashlight to a gun fight !
I was thinking of situational awareness and momentarily blinding an intruder .
For that application Elzetta Alpha Model A113 is one possibility .
No firearm and contact weapon only as last resort of course .

I don’t think the Elzetta brings anything to the table in particular that can justify the $150 price.
I’m also firmly in the camp that doesn’t support thinking of a flashlight as being defensive in any way. I can understand using a flashlight to illuminate and disorient a target, but I don’t think the flashlight is doing the defense. The closest we get is the MagLite effect, where the light is also a baton.

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I would get a emisar d4s.

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So what happens after the intruder recovers from being blinded by the flashlight? Is the assumption that they will run away? Or is it time for hand-to-hand playtime? Just wondering what the game plan is after this happens.

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What’s the reason home defense is your main concern?
If bad things tend to happen in your neighborhood, then what you really need is a new neighborhood.

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Joshk wrote:
If bad things tend to happen in your neighborhood, then what you really need is a new neighborhood.

I can sympathise if someone can’t afford to move to better digs.

Still, I can’t quite figure someone hacking his way through a door with an axe, “Heeeeeeeeeeere’s Johnny!”, and the response is to shine him in the face with a flashlight. Mmmmnope, won’t work.

At the very least, pepperspray with dye, a machete, something.

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Exactly. I would keep every penny possible in savings to help get out of the neighborhood asap, before something bad does happen.

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I want a “sentry” like in “Aliens”…

 

Ha! I should’ve known there’d be a vid…

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It’s very easy to tell someone to move out of a bad neighborhood, even easier to tell a stranger on the internet. But some live in the safest neighborhoods of all of us, and still have home security systems and concealed carries etc. I’d prefer to address OP without assuming nearly so much.

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I wasn’t assuming, I was talking from experience.

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