Sofirn C01R - XP-E2 deep red AAA keychain flashlight

823 posts / 0 new
Last post
Unheard
Offline
Last seen: 17 min 56 sec ago
Joined: 01/16/2019 - 11:38
Posts: 1150
Location: Germany

OT:

blind-eye wrote:
Maybe Sofirn will consider using other optics in the future too. Like the honeycomb optic a user posted about earlier in this thread. Some floody versions of the C01S would be awesome!

That one is very special. Like it, but it’s not for everyone.

I think the optics is nice, but it’s the wrong LED. Completely different beam with a Nichia 219C, and that’s what the C01S should have been IMO. If Lux decides to ask for user opinions about modifying the standard C01S, I’ll happily participate with some beamshots.

Lux-Perpetua
Lux-Perpetua's picture
Online
Last seen: 3 min 17 sec ago
Joined: 03/01/2018 - 04:39
Posts: 2346
Location: Germany, 德国, ドイツ, Германия, जर्मनी

lightdecay wrote:
Please also consider less common emitters like E21A or Optisolis.

That's very unlikely to happen as Sofirn told me they had difficulties sourcing Nichia LEDs from their supplier(s). They didn't even get any XP-G3 deep red.

 

djozz wrote:
If you are asking questions to Sofirn anyway, could you ask them (how dare I ask on BLF) to glue the bezel? They all come loose after some time so that when switching off the light at some point you suddenly have the bezel, lens and optic loose in your hands. And you can not screw the bezel too tight or the driver stops making contact with the battery.

Barry asked me for more details, i.e. do you have a picture that easily describes/shows which parts become loose? He said that BLF edition of C01S was not glued for DYI purposes. Has this problem also occured on standard C01S (black, red, blue) models?

Update: Barry just told me he will check with the factory to ensure that future batches will be glued better. It seems some samples did not have enough glue. It's very difficult to use the right amount of glue. If it's too less, the head becomes loose, if it's too much, the glue will spill all over the threads.

Luminous and wired, we'll be glowing in the dark.

Unheard
Offline
Last seen: 17 min 56 sec ago
Joined: 01/16/2019 - 11:38
Posts: 1150
Location: Germany

The standard head compartement is also not glued. Thanks for that! Big Smile

Imagine what happens when you lose the optics part (on the left) and have the LED left in the body.

Lux-Perpetua
Lux-Perpetua's picture
Online
Last seen: 3 min 17 sec ago
Joined: 03/01/2018 - 04:39
Posts: 2346
Location: Germany, 德国, ドイツ, Германия, जर्मनी

By the way, I will start a poll on BLF asking people to vote if they want future batches of C01S/C01R with two modes (10lm, 100lm) or with three modes (1lm, 10lm, 100lm). Personally, I have a good feeling that many customers would appreciate a sublumen-mode (0.5 - 1lm) for using in full darkness with adapted eyes.

Luminous and wired, we'll be glowing in the dark.

KevinZA1988
KevinZA1988's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 week 3 days ago
Joined: 02/26/2018 - 02:26
Posts: 765
Location: South Africa
Lux-Perpetua wrote:

By the way, I will start a poll on BLF asking people to vote if they want future batches of C01S/C01R with two modes (10lm, 100lm) or with three modes (1lm, 10lm, 100lm). Personally, I have a good feeling that many customers would appreciate a sublumen-mode (0.5 – 1lm) for using in full darkness with adapted eyes.

That would be nice…

Armytek Prime C1 Pro, Armytek Prime C2 Pro, Armytek Tiara C1 Pro, Astrolux MF01 Mini, BLF Q8, BLF A6, BLF FW1A, BLF FW3A, BLF FW3C, BLF LT1, Convoy L6, Convoy C8+ , Convoy S3, Convoy M21A, Convoy S11, Emisar D4, Fireflies E07, Jaxman E2L, Lumintop EDC18, Manta Ray C8.2 long version, Olight S1R Baton II special edition series, S2R Baton II, Nitecore HC65, Olight H1R Nova.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/JaJaDv4V838AEJf39

Unheard
Offline
Last seen: 17 min 56 sec ago
Joined: 01/16/2019 - 11:38
Posts: 1150
Location: Germany

Terrible. Three twists to get what the i3E delivers with one twist: Usable light Tired

Lux-Perpetua
Lux-Perpetua's picture
Online
Last seen: 3 min 17 sec ago
Joined: 03/01/2018 - 04:39
Posts: 2346
Location: Germany, 德国, ドイツ, Германия, जर्मनी

Unheard wrote:
Terrible. Three twists to get what the i3E delivers with one twist: Usable light :TIRED:

Well, maybe there's a chance for a programmable driver...like:

8 twists to change mode order

low - med - high (default)

high - med - low

 

Luminous and wired, we'll be glowing in the dark.

Unheard
Offline
Last seen: 17 min 56 sec ago
Joined: 01/16/2019 - 11:38
Posts: 1150
Location: Germany

That would be nice!

shirnask
shirnask's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 hour 15 min ago
Joined: 03/21/2016 - 23:58
Posts: 1291
Location: Louisiana
Sublumen-mode would be great!!!
Victorio
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 23 hours ago
Joined: 04/30/2016 - 02:46
Posts: 15
Location: Hungary

Interested in one deep red version.

P33
Offline
Last seen: 3 weeks 5 days ago
Joined: 09/25/2018 - 16:41
Posts: 303
Location: Kraków, Poland

Please put me on the list for the second one.

Lux-Perpetua
Lux-Perpetua's picture
Online
Last seen: 3 min 17 sec ago
Joined: 03/01/2018 - 04:39
Posts: 2346
Location: Germany, 德国, ドイツ, Германия, जर्मनी

Good news: Sofirn has received 20 samples of the XP-E2 deep red (660nm) with the bin code XPEBPR-L1-P20-30-B-01 from Cree. Engineering is now starting to build a prototype.

 

I also asked them to try making the C01S driver programmable with reversible mode order. They said it was possible (3 modes, 2 mode groups). We need to wait and see if there's any sense in having three modes on C01R as deep red tint probably needs 2 modes (low and high) only. But it could be useful for the brigher, more performing versions, e.g. with SST-20. The bad news is that prices are expected to increase with a more sophisticated driver and more LED options. However, this will all be reflected in the poll I am going to create later on.

Luminous and wired, we'll be glowing in the dark.

Unheard
Offline
Last seen: 17 min 56 sec ago
Joined: 01/16/2019 - 11:38
Posts: 1150
Location: Germany

Lux-Perpetua wrote:
C01R as deep red tint probably needs 2 modes (low and high) only.

Easy solution: 9 twists to change both mode layers from lo-mid-hi and hi-mid-lo to mid-hi and hi-mid.

Lux-Perpetua
Lux-Perpetua's picture
Online
Last seen: 3 min 17 sec ago
Joined: 03/01/2018 - 04:39
Posts: 2346
Location: Germany, 德国, ドイツ, Германия, जर्मनी

Unheard wrote:

Lux-Perpetua wrote:
C01R as deep red tint probably needs 2 modes (low and high) only.

Easy solution: 9 twists to change both mode layers from lo-mid-hi and hi-mid-lo to mid-hi and hi-mid.

No offense, but I'd rather keep things simple (and reasonable in terms of costs, too). While I do appreciate a high grade of customization on big lights like LT1 or SP36, I'd recommend not overstraining customers on small keychain lights that will mostly be used in one mode-configuration forever. Wink

Luminous and wired, we'll be glowing in the dark.

Unheard
Offline
Last seen: 17 min 56 sec ago
Joined: 01/16/2019 - 11:38
Posts: 1150
Location: Germany

That wasn’t offensive, Thomas. All good, just made a proposal. Will shut up now Wink .

djozz
djozz's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 hour 3 min ago
Joined: 09/07/2012 - 17:04
Posts: 17161
Location: Amsterdam

If 3 modes are made, I think that deep red lovers could be interested in a very low mode. So 0.1%-5%-100%
Not sure though, it is not 100% my type of flashlight.

In general it would be nice if a (mode order) programmable driver is made for the C01S, not just for the red version.

buck91
buck91's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 week 5 days ago
Joined: 07/29/2016 - 08:21
Posts: 409
Location: Michigan
Lux-Perpetua wrote:

Unheard wrote:

Lux-Perpetua wrote:
C01R as deep red tint probably needs 2 modes (low and high) only.

Easy solution: 9 twists to change both mode layers from lo-mid-hi and hi-mid-lo to mid-hi and hi-mid.



No offense, but I’d rather keep things simple (and reasonable in terms of costs, too). While I do appreciate a high grade of customization on big lights like LT1 or SP36, I’d recommend not overstraining customers on small keychain lights that will mostly be used in one mode-configuration forever. Wink

Agreed

Lux-Perpetua
Lux-Perpetua's picture
Online
Last seen: 3 min 17 sec ago
Joined: 03/01/2018 - 04:39
Posts: 2346
Location: Germany, 德国, ドイツ, Германия, जर्मनी

Unheard wrote:
That wasn't offensive, Thomas. All good, just made a proposal. Will shut up now Wink .

No worries, it's all good. Smile Your suggestions are always appreciated.

djozz wrote:
If 3 modes are made, I think that deep red lovers could be interested in a very low mode. So 0.1%-5%-100% Not sure though, it is not 100% my type of flashlight. In general it would be nice if a (mode order) programmable driver is made for the C01S, not just for the red version.

The poll is live: http://budgetlightforum.com/node/69811

Everyone is highly encouraged to vote.

Luminous and wired, we'll be glowing in the dark.

Nismo
Nismo's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 4 days ago
Joined: 10/11/2019 - 13:12
Posts: 80
Location: Norway

I’m interested, one 625m and one 660nm.

Current lights:

Emisar D4V2 SST-20 4000K, D4V2 Ti SST-20 2700K amber switch LEDs, D4V2 Ti SST-20 4000K cold white switch LEDs, D4SV2 SST-20 3000K | Fireflies PL47G2 XPL HI V3 3A, PL47G2 SST-20 4000K Lumintop FW1A SST-20 4000K Nitecore LR12 XP-L HD V6, TUP XP-L HD V6 | Sofirn C01S SST-20 4000K, SP10S LH351D 5000K, IF25/LT1-M SST-20 2700K + 6500K w/3D printed diffuser, BLF SP36 LH351D 5000K, BLF LT1 | ZebraLight SC53Fc XP-L2 4000K Convoy C8+ SST-40 6500K

amishbill
amishbill's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 months 1 week ago
Joined: 05/01/2019 - 10:03
Posts: 714
Location: GA

djozz wrote:

If you are asking questions to Sofirn anyway, could you ask them (how dare I ask on BLF) to glue the bezel? They all come loose after some time so that when switching off the light at some point you suddenly have the bezel, lens and optic loose in your hands. And you can not screw the bezel too tight or the driver stops making contact with the battery.

I haven’t experienced this myself, as I only have one C01 variant, and it’s not my EDC.
… but …
I view glue as one of those things that is easier to add than to remove. While it’s true that most will never have a reason to open the head, this IS BLF and access is important.

If they do wind up gluing things into place, can it at least be a low to medium heat-released type of threadlocker?

DIY LT1 battery wrap image. "PDF on Google Drive":https://drive.google.com/open?id=1IHIEOi1NXu868IYNCzIM7D2Ulpxchmww

Fresh Sanyo NCR18650GAs already wrapped "for sale HERE":http://budgetlightforum.com/node/69120 if you like.

djozz
djozz's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 hour 3 min ago
Joined: 09/07/2012 - 17:04
Posts: 17161
Location: Amsterdam

The problem is a small design flaw: the battery tube and the bezel share the same pill-threading, tighten the bezel too much and the battery tube will not have enough threads leftover to reach the driver. They should have made the pill a tiny bit higher (and risk a larger gap between head and battery tube) or create a hard stop for the bezel. Or screw down the bezel medium tight with a drop of glue in the threads. I agree that weak glue should be sufficient.

mitsuki08
Offline
Last seen: 14 hours 45 min ago
Joined: 03/08/2019 - 05:36
Posts: 239

Please put me down for 1, thanks.

cujo255
cujo255's picture
Offline
Last seen: 3 weeks 1 day ago
Joined: 02/27/2017 - 15:39
Posts: 87
Location: Minnesota

interested

Ivanmm77
Offline
Last seen: 8 months 2 weeks ago
Joined: 08/12/2015 - 09:03
Posts: 26
Location: Spain

Interested in 2

mattlward
mattlward's picture
Offline
Last seen: 23 hours 42 min ago
Joined: 06/19/2015 - 09:20
Posts: 2828
Location: Illinois, USA

I would be interested in one for working around cameras at night.

EDC rotation:
FW1A, LH351D 4000k (second favorite)
FW3A, LH351D 3500k
FW3A, SST20 FD2 4000k
FW3A, Nichia 4000k sw40 r9080 (favorite light!)
FW3A, Cree XP-L Hi 5A3
Emisar D4V2, SST20 4000k
S2+, XM-L2 T6 4C

Jensen
Offline
Last seen: 2 months 1 day ago
Joined: 11/13/2018 - 10:49
Posts: 22

I’m interested in buying 2 of these when they’re available.

Foghorne
Offline
Last seen: 1 day 21 hours ago
Joined: 10/31/2019 - 19:33
Posts: 26
Location: USA

I’ll take one. Thanks.

mortuus
mortuus's picture
Offline
Last seen: 9 hours 35 min ago
Joined: 12/16/2014 - 09:33
Posts: 2784
Location: Sweden

is it decided what color the body host will be or ? sorry if i missed this..

...where Frugal meets with Flashlight!

              つ ◕_◕ ༽つ

nibble
Offline
Last seen: 4 hours 28 min ago
Joined: 08/19/2019 - 17:04
Posts: 22

Please, add me to the list for 1.

OldSkol
Offline
Last seen: 3 hours 39 min ago
Joined: 04/05/2019 - 20:00
Posts: 35
Location: SF Bay Area

I’m on the list for 1
Once we get a price I will probably want 2 total
Thanks,
OldSkol

Pages