XM-L P60 Drop in from DinoDirect , 5 mode ...

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XM-L P60 Drop in from DinoDirect , 5 mode ...

Ok , A quick review of the 5 mode drop in from DD [ XM-L ] 

I popped it into my L2P [ wrapped in Al foil ] 

With a freshly charged Sanyo 2600 , I recorded up to 3.5A current draw on high ...

High / 3.5A  -  Medium / 1.44A  -  Low / 0.184A 

Output with Tailcap = High - 620L  , Medium - 275L , Low - 33L 

Now that just made no sense ...  Less tailcap , I used the MM so measured current and output at the same time ...

High / 3.44A / 770L and fading fast  , Medium / 1.44A / 320L ,  Low / 0.184A / 42L 

... Hmmmm ...

Poor efficiency from the driver , seems to be a fair bit of heat related sag . 

Still for the price , might be worthwhile doing a driver swap , definitely on the cards for this drop in ...

Wow , I think I may need to stop buying , even cheap , P60 XM-L drop ins from DD ...

From just a visual inspection :

Looks well put together

Emitter slightly of centre [ does not affect beam ]

Typical XM-L beam and colour [ Yellow centre , white corona , then a yellow hallo and purple edging ] 

Nice clean reflector [ Smooth - Not OP ]  

Noticeably slow  PWM

Mode memory = 15+ second wait or it starts in the next mode ...  [ I made a point to remember this , and when it came time to doing the post = I forgot ! ] 

 Always remember , the easiest thing in the world to do , is to expel hot air from your lungs and through some vocal chords ..
The resulting sound may , or may not be worth listening too ….

 

Edited by: old4570 on 01/11/2012 - 21:27
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I always thought typical beam on XML had green fringing?
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Actually my Ultrafire P60 drop-in also sagged the same as this one.  As long as it puts out light!

The Sanyo 2600 has very low resistance, too good a cell even  (even lower than my Panasonic 2900 and 3100).  Other cells like XTAR 2600 just hit it at 3 amps.

As always, need to wrap it up real good with foil else it sags close to 40% .  LOL!  Big Smile

 

I had more hosts than drop-ins, so this 8 bucks one saved the day.

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Madi05 wrote:
I always thought typical beam on XML had green fringing?

Its a shade of yellow to green , didnt know what to call it since it has both , this on seems more yellow'y 

Plan is to put in a 2A 3 mode driver ..

 Always remember , the easiest thing in the world to do , is to expel hot air from your lungs and through some vocal chords ..
The resulting sound may , or may not be worth listening too ….

 

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U should post a how to do that for us and driver used Smile
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http://kaidomain.com/product/details.S020064

 

 Hmmm , another DIY ...  why not !  

 Always remember , the easiest thing in the world to do , is to expel hot air from your lungs and through some vocal chords ..
The resulting sound may , or may not be worth listening too ….

 

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old4570 wrote:

http://kaidomain.com/product/details.S020064

 

 Hmmm , another DIY ...  why not !  

Yeah I have mant older p60 before I got cancer just sitting around with them cheesy glumly modes I would love to make gobaway:)I can't wait Thanks in advance
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Madi05 wrote:
old4570 wrote:

http://kaidomain.com/product/details.S020064

 

 Hmmm , another DIY ...  why not !  

Yeah I have many older p60 before I got cancer just sitting around with them cheesy blinky modes I would love to make go away:)I can't wait Thanks in advance
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Do these have memory last mode?thanks
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old4570 wrote:

http://kaidomain.com/product/details.S020064

 

 Hmmm , another DIY ...  why not !  

I mean these have last memory mode
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Sorry yes , after turning of the light , it will come on in the same level , if you wait 15 seconds ... any sooner and it will start in the next mode ...

 

 [ I knew I forgot something ] 

 Always remember , the easiest thing in the world to do , is to expel hot air from your lungs and through some vocal chords ..
The resulting sound may , or may not be worth listening too ….

 

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Thanks just ordered them,now u will have to show me how to change them out,lol
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Got mine today...wow all this fancy documentation just for a $9 sale.  That in itself is somewhat impressive...as if DD is trying to start off with new customers with a good first impression.  Mine says Ultrafire on it and is an SMO reflector, not the LOP that I was expecting.

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Yeah, nice Christmas card Wink

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is that fish looking thing a air freshener?

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ezarc wrote:

is that fish looking thing a air freshener?

No, it's for your headphone (for the cable).

Light up the darkness.

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Still waiting for mine, its been 32 days today Frown

I made other orders from China and Hong Kong around the same time, they only took 5-10 days. 

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ezarc wrote:

Still waiting for mine, its been 32 days today Frown

I made other orders from China and Hong Kong around the same time, they only took 5-10 days. 

+1 gonna dispute in2 days
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Mr.BrightLights wrote:
ezarc wrote:

Still waiting for mine, its been 32 days today Frown

I made other orders from China and Hong Kong around the same time, they only took 5-10 days. 

+1 gonna dispute in2 days

I was going to wait for 40 days or at least until Friday, so yeah maybe 2 days as well. (its Wednesday night here)

I have about $200 worth of stuff ordered from them split over 4 orders, then they marked nearly all of them as partial shipments and only took pics of 1 item in each when I ordered multiple diffrent items. And one hasn't even shipped yet. 

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I was thinking of putting together a light with a Solarforce body, what is the best budget drop in to use?  This one from DD or the UF from Manafont?  Wasn't there 2 different versions on DD (one smooth and one with an orange reflector)?  Not really too sure about the differences as this stuff is very new to me so if someone could explain that would be great.

I'm looking to get an L2 or L2P, can't decide.

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firestarter03 wrote:

I was thinking of putting together a light with a Solarforce body, what is the best budget drop in to use?  This one from DD or the UF from Manafont?  Wasn't there 2 different versions on DD (one smooth and one with an orange reflector)?  Not really too sure about the differences as this stuff is very new to me so if someone could explain that would be great.

I'm looking to get an L2 or L2P, can't decide.

I have the ManaFont UltraFire 3-Mode, I'm pretty sure others have said its better than the DD drop in.

L2 and L2P are nearly the same apart from the anodizing, Id go for the L2 with the MF UF drop in but I might be bias because I already have one.  

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old4570 wrote:

could u use a dc supply to check draw? i'm curious why a bat is always the for supply.

Ok , A quick review of the 5 mode drop in from DD [ XM-L ] 

I popped it into my L2P [ wrapped in Al foil ] 

With a freshly charged Sanyo 2600 , I recorded up to 3.5A current draw on high ...

High / 3.5A  -  Medium / 1.44A  -  Low / 0.184A 

Output with Tailcap = High - 620L  , Medium - 275L , Low - 33L 

Now that just made no sense ...  Less tailcap , I used the MM so measured current and output at the same time ...

High / 3.44A / 770L and fading fast  , Medium / 1.44A / 320L ,  Low / 0.184A / 42L 

... Hmmmm ...

Poor efficiency from the driver , seems to be a fair bit of heat related sag . 

Still for the price , might be worthwhile doing a driver swap , definitely on the cards for this drop in ...

Wow , I think I may need to stop buying , even cheap , P60 XM-L drop ins from DD ...

From just a visual inspection :

Looks well put together

Emitter slightly of centre [ does not affect beam ]

Typical XM-L beam and colour [ Yellow centre , white corona , then a yellow hallo and purple edging ] 

Nice clean reflector [ Smooth - Not OP ]  

Noticeably slow  PWM

Mode memory = 15+ second wait or it starts in the next mode ...  [ I made a point to remember this , and when it came time to doing the post = I forgot ! ] 

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I ordered both the OP and smooth reflector drop in from DD. The smooth

one came yeasterday. Normal quality, 5 mode and just as bright as all

other XML.

Looking forward to receive the OP version.

Cheap quality is good - Expensive crap isn´t

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Nautic wrote:

I ordered both the OP and smooth reflector drop in from DD. The smooth

one came yeasterday. Normal quality, 5 mode and just as bright as all

other XML.

Looking forward to receive the OP version.

Whats as bright as other XM-L mean to you?

I have 2 WF-501b's both with XM-L emiters, they are only half as bright to they eye as my UF MF drop in. 

They are so disappointing I am just going to give them away, I feel I'd be ripping anyone off if I tried to sell them. 

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The ones I bought aren't as good as others here received.  I'm surprised some of you are seeing 3.5A draw. On an Xtar 18700 mine only pull 2A where the same light with a UF XM-L drop-in pulls 2.7A.

Side by side comparison the DD drop-ins are noticeably less bright.

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All my dino's XM-L's (with in 504B bodies) were around 2A. The only exception was the single mode (ordered a 5 mode) that drew 1,4A. Funny tho.

Even R5's single modes were preforming lower than wanted (800-850mA but those would accept 8,4V apparently. Never tried though.)

At one time i was happy to have recieved one with an off center XM-L. Turns out it the star was 12mm one so i took it out and put a 16mm in it. I always wanted a 12mm star XM-L. Now i have it. Smile Perhaps i will try it in my C3 SS with stock driver.

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ezarc wrote:

Nautic wrote:

I ordered both the OP and smooth reflector drop in from DD. The smooth

one came yeasterday. Normal quality, 5 mode and just as bright as all

other XML.

Looking forward to receive the OP version.

Whats as bright as other XM-L mean to you?

I have 2 WF-501b's both with XM-L emiters, they are only half as bright to they eye as my UF MF drop in. 

They are so disappointing I am just going to give them away, I feel I'd be ripping anyone off if I tried to sell them. 

 

I have no equipment to measure brightness, so I cant give a figure. I measured the the amps

which was 2, so its not driven very hard.

But for the price paid, nearly 9$, you get a XML T6, a driver, a pill and a reflector, so if you mod, as I

do, it was a good deal. A driver change to 3.5 amps, and it will be just as bright as any from MF

Cheap quality is good - Expensive crap isn´t

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Nautic wrote:

ezarc wrote:

Nautic wrote:

I ordered both the OP and smooth reflector drop in from DD. The smooth

one came yeasterday. Normal quality, 5 mode and just as bright as all

other XML.

Looking forward to receive the OP version.

Whats as bright as other XM-L mean to you?

I have 2 WF-501b's both with XM-L emiters, they are only half as bright to they eye as my UF MF drop in. 

They are so disappointing I am just going to give them away, I feel I'd be ripping anyone off if I tried to sell them. 

 

I have no equipment to measure brightness, so I cant give a figure. I measured the the amps

which was 2, so its not driven very hard.

But for the price paid, nearly 9$, you get a XML T6, a driver, a pill and a reflector, so if you mod, as I

do, it was a good deal. A driver change to 3.5 amps, and it will be just as bright as any from MF

True dat!  I just wish we had more choices among US sellers and free shipping too. Can't have everything, I guess. Wink
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My drop in, as was reviewed in post #1, came today. 5 mode and smooth reflector

(not OP as advertised). Current draw 3.5 amps, so its another driver than in the

one that came a few days ago. All told a good buy for close to 9$. Most XML T6

cost that much by itself.

Cheap quality is good - Expensive crap isn´t