New Sofirn SP33 V3 !!

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New Sofirn SP33 V3 !!

Is there any information or review yet on the new SP33 V3 ?

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000283536927.html

The main differences I see so far are:

  • the addition of built-in USB (type C) charging
  • the significantly increased peak brightness from 2500 to 3500 lumens
  • the different stainless steel bezel/head design


It’s not often a seller writes “Do not order” Big Smile

The listing classifies its battery type as 18650, but the product listing offers only “25560” battery purchase option as its “Emitting color”. Big Smile I hope it maintains the V2’s ability to use both 18650 and 26650.

I’m new to fancy lights (my only light is a Sipik SK68 with AA, which I still quite like for for it is), and don’t have any Sofirn yet, but this new SP33 and the SP40 are now on my wishlist. The USB charging seems particularly practical.

Can’t wait to learn more about it!

Edited by: phouton on 10/25/2019 - 00:08
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They recently announced it Smile But I think sofirn is a little late with it… cause the astrolux ec01 basically does all the same things and is cheaper

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The new SP33 V3 features:

  • XHP50.2 3V (6.000 - 6.500K) instead of XHP50.2 6V (6.000 - 6.500K)
  • Subsequently, it uses an FET driver instead of a boost driver
  • It outputs 3.500lm instead of 2.500lm (like SP33 V2)
  • USB-C port
  • 21700 support
  • much better UI with better stepped modes (e.g. moonlight with 1lm) and ramping mode
  • new advanced temperature regulation (ATR) without timed stepdown
  • smart heat control (brightness will step again if temperature decreases)

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I like the styling of the SP33 much more than the EC01 but EC01 has the “advantage” of being a more compact 21700. Also for muggles, the SP33 has a much simpler fool proof UI. Everytime I lend my Anduril flashlights to muggles, they always end up in some blinky operations.

I modded the SP33v2 with 4xE21A and the tint was magnificent. Does anyone know if the SP33 uses 3v or 6v XHP50.2?

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SP33 V2 uses the 6V version (incl. boost driver) and SP33 V3 uses the 3V version (incl. FET driver).

The new version V3 supports 26650, 21700 and 18650 batteries.

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@Lux-Perpetua Thanks for those details! This forum is better than the product descriptions.

@RobinVC Where did they announce? I searched before posting but didn’t find anything. Great point on the Astrolux EC01, that is also a contender. The regular pricing seems pretty similar except that the EC01 is on sale now at BangGood. Another difference is the EC01 has an 5000K option.

@SKV89 Anduril as an open-source third-party firmware sounds really cool to play with, but as a muggle myself I like simplicity. The SP40’s UI seems perfect to me if it just added a moonlight mode accessible from off, plus maybe a nice “breathing” mode like the SC31.

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IIRC the 6000K+ doesn’t have the tint rainbow like the NW emitters – wish NW was a bit nicer Sad

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Please find the SP33 V3 manual on my sharepoint here:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1I_35e3aw3pNoMosh00ja-ZDvaW-3BtJE

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phouton wrote:
@RobinVC Where did they announce? I searched before posting but didn’t find anything.

I’m in their group on facebook, saw it there. But there is also a sofirn development forum post, might’ve seen it mentioned there as well.

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How many amps is this thing pushing through the led?

And Why is the switch so abysmally…

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Sofirn’s 26650 HD battery has too much voltage sag to even get close to 3500 lumens. Best to order the SP33 V3 without a battery and get something better. Even Sofirn’s 21700 has heaps of sag at 15A.

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I regard the SP33 as a near perfect muggle light.
If the UI is similar, the built in charging will make it even better.

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Am I the only one that is more happy with the older boost driver due to the more even output regulation vs FET? Also assuming PWM on the new driver?

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RobinVC wrote:
They recently announced it Smile But I think sofirn is a little late with it… cause the astrolux ec01 basically does all the same things and is cheaper

Correct, but i prefer the quality and service of Sofirn
If only their design department could come up with more attractive designs though…

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Yokiamy wrote:
RobinVC wrote:
They recently announced it Smile But I think sofirn is a little late with it… cause the astrolux ec01 basically does all the same things and is cheaper

Correct, but i prefer the quality and service of Sofirn
If only their design department could come up with more attractive designs though…

Yes, their designs are very plain. The IF25 looks terrible

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Asian8640 wrote:
Am I the only one that is more happy with the older boost driver due to the more even output regulation vs FET? Also assuming PWM on the new driver?

I agree with you )

Sorry for my poor english.

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Slightly OT: I like the 26650 option as the greater diameter of the battery tube feels much better. Really hope to see such lights in the future, even after 26650 will be abandoned.

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Asian8640 wrote:
Am I the only one that is more happy with the older boost driver due to the more even output regulation vs FET? Also assuming PWM on the new driver?

 

Nope, same here. I would've took the boost driver with the new UI changes, but.. ordered one regardless.

I also don't like the 150LM Low in the stepped mode, but that is passable, as I'll only be using ramping anyways. Still bugs me why they've chosen again such bright Low level.. Flat Stare

 

 

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80T wrote:

Asian8640 wrote:
Am I the only one that is more happy with the older boost driver due to the more even output regulation vs FET? Also assuming PWM on the new driver?

Nope, same here. I would’ve took the boost driver with the new UI changes, but.. ordered one regardless.


I also don’t like the 150LM Low in the stepped mode, but that is passable, as I’ll only be using ramping anyways. Still bugs me why they’ve chosen again such bright Low level.. Flat Stare

Cheers!

The TK70 levels are 1, 600, 1500, 2800, 6500. No Ramping. The low of 600 is way too high also.

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1, 600.. Low.. Oh well.. Flat Stare

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Greetings Gentlemen,I'm new to the forum.I ordered an SP33v3 from the AliExpress Sofirn Store on 11/13/2019 and it arrived 2 days ago.

I ordered it with the Sofirn 26650 5500mAh battery being that it was a very low cost addition and I own zero 26650 batteries at the time of ordering.The total cost was $32.79.

The box was a bit crushed but the contents were OK when delivered.In the Sofirn box was the SP33v3,1 x 26650 battery,1 x 21700 battery sleeve,1 x lanyard,user guide in 3 languages(English,German,Russian)and a business size thank you card.

Also in the box was a USB A to USB C power cable and 2 O rings that were in the zip lock bag with the lanyard.

The battery was at 3.75 volts and charged to 4.2 volts in an Xtar VC4 @ 1 amp.The volts was confirmed with 2 voltmeters.

A capacity test was performed with cutoff set at 2.7 volts resulting in a 5569mAh reading.After a second charge to 4.2 volts the capacity tested at 5603mAh.

I don't have no way to test lumens but the light in turbo is much brighter than an SF11;the high may also be much brighter.I feel the the light emitted is a bit on the warm side with a dash of yellow/green.

The Sofirn 26650 battery is not a tight fit,there's a bit of wiggle room.An 18650 is loose in the supplied battery holder so it will probably be much better with a fatter and recommended 21700

I have a lot to learn about this flashlight before I place it in my SUV.The size is good for the center console.

No way to add photos from my desktop?

 

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Asian8640 wrote:
Am I the only one that is more happy with the older boost driver due to the more even output regulation vs FET? Also assuming PWM on the new driver?

No, you’re not the only one who considers a PWM FET DD driver to be a crappy solution compared to a CC boost driver.
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No way to add photos from my desktop? 

Thanks for stopping by, whatsthepoint!

No you cannot add photos directly from your desktop.

Here are instructions on how to post pics:

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I'm really liking this flashlight.It's very comfortable in the hand but gets quite hot when turbo mode for a few minutes.

This is a good thing that shows the heat disbursement is good?

Being diverse with ability to use 26650,21700 and 18650 batteries is a definite plus.

Flat tops seem to be best suited for the SP33v3 with it's springs on the anode and cathode but button top protected Panasonic18650GA have worked as were as unprotected button top Sanyo 18650GA.

The included sleeve is best with 21700 batteries but even though 18650 are looser they stay connected on the springs.

Turbo Mode with an unprotected  flat top Panasonic 18650G was extremely bright and got toasty quickly.

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Charging the SP33v3 using USB C to USB C is possible but a charger that will allow it my be hard to locate.

I have 6 USB C  chargers and 14 USB A chargers.

All of my USB A chargers with all my USB A to USB C cables worked at charging the Sofirn SP33v3 including the USB A to USB C cable that was included in the SP33v3 box.

Only 2 of my USB C chargers worked and they both were the same model/brand of charger.

They are  LG branded and were shipped in the box with Google Nexus 5X phones.They are my oldest USB C chargers.Attaching a U2 USB tester showed it charging at 5 volts and 0.9 amps.The LG charger lists an output of 5 volts and 3.0 amps

Inside the SP33v3 was a Sofirn branded 26650 5500mAh battery that was showing yellow button color before the UCB cable was inserted in the USB C port on the SP33v3.

The side power button on the SP33v3 flashes red when it is charging via USB C

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You seem to have something fairly uncommon – a pair of non-compliant USB-C chargers.

My guess is LG put the physical USB-C port in place, but made no other changes to allow for power negotiation. Since those phone chargers are low voltage / low current, there wasn’t much of a down-side for them. The upside for you, is you have two USB-C slow chargers that will work on devices that did not properly implement USB-C power.

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Received mine today. I like it. It was between this and Convoy m3 for house light. This was cheaper, especially with 11.11 discount. Also while Convoy has a brighter turbo, the high mode isn’t. Turbo is something I barely use outside of occasional wow factor.

I was afraid the tint would be too cold. But I am pleased with it. Here is where Convoys are better though.

The attachment of the rubber insert over the USB port seemed to strain pretty tight when I charged it up. I am afraid of tearing it off. I think I am just not going to use it. Thankfully I do have a battery charger.

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I like cooler tints

I also will probably not be using  USB charging on the SP33v3

I have several spare 26650 and 18650 batteries that swap in very quickly but don't have any 21700 that fit the plastic sleeve much better than the 18650.

This light fits in hand very nicely.The size and power are near perfect for me.

On turbo it's an excellent hand warmercool

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Try putting some thread & o-ring lube on the rubber post that holds the USB cover in place. If it can spin and move more freely, it should reduce stress on that part.

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whatsthepoint wrote:

Greetings Gentlemen,I’m new to the forum.I ordered an SP33v3 from the AliExpress Sofirn Store on 11/13/2019 and it arrived 2 days ago.


I ordered it with the Sofirn 26650 5500mAh battery being that it was a very low cost addition and I own zero 26650 batteries at the time of ordering.The total cost was $32.79.


The box was a bit crushed but the contents were OK when delivered.In the Sofirn box was the SP33v3,1 × 26650 battery,1 × 21700 battery sleeve,1 x lanyard,user guide in 3 languages(English,German,Russian)and a business size thank you card.


Also in the box was a USB A to USB C power cable and 2 O rings that were in the zip lock bag with the lanyard.


The battery was at 3.75 volts and charged to 4.2 volts in an Xtar VC4 @ 1 amp.The volts was confirmed with 2 voltmeters.


A capacity test was performed with cutoff set at 2.7 volts resulting in a 5569mAh reading.After a second charge to 4.2 volts the capacity tested at 5603mAh.


I don’t have no way to test lumens but the light in turbo is much brighter than an SF11;the high may also be much brighter.I feel the the light emitted is a bit on the warm side with a dash of yellow/green.


The Sofirn 26650 battery is not a tight fit,there’s a bit of wiggle room.An 18650 is loose in the supplied battery holder so it will probably be much better with a fatter and recommended 21700


I have a lot to learn about this flashlight before I place it in my SUV.The size is good for the center console.


No way to add photos from my desktop?


 

Very informative. Thank you

I have been looking at the SP33 V2 and I’m convinced the V3 is an even better option

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I received 2 black ShockLi 26650 5500mAh batteries yesterday and they both easily fit in the SP33v3

 

They were both at 3.85 volts when received and both charged to 4.2 volts at 1/2 amp. in an Xtar VC4

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