New Haikelite HT70 [4 SST70, 17000lm, 1500m, 8x 18650]

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New Haikelite HT70 [4 SST70, 17000lm, 1500m, 8x 18650]

The new Haikelite HT70 is listed on Taobao now. Just searched for Haikelite’s 11/11 offers on Taobao and there it was! I have already seen a leaked foto of it here on BLF and I really like the design. It has 8 18650 batteries and 4 SST70 leds in NW or CW in a big smooth reflector doing 17000 lumens.

It is available in black, white and sand (or gold). Here are the specs translated with Google and copied from Taobao:

Link: https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.99.7e827ed8OZcexw&id=607...

New HT70 17000 lumens, advanced custom settings UI, player experience

1 using four LUMINUS SST70 lamp beads

2 can choose the color temperature of the lamp bead: cool white / neutral (the lamp is SST70 P2 grade)

3 maximum brightness of 17000 lumens, up to a range of 1 500 meters

4 has a tactical mode to switch between daily use or search and rescue

5 use 2 sections / 4 sections / 6 sections / 8 sections 18650 rechargeable power lithium battery (not included)

It is recommended to use Haikelite 18650 3000mAh power lithium battery

6 one-handed, simple and fast operation

7 built-in advanced intelligent temperature control settings, can automatically adjust the brightness according to the working state of the flashlight and the outside temperature

8 compatible standard tripod interface, standard screw head

9 lock function to prevent accidental light

10 double-coated tempered anti-transparent purple optical lens, higher light transmittance

7 6 using metal aluminum reflector

7 7 aviation grade aluminum alloy military standard three-stage hard anodizing anti-wear surface treatment

This price is for one-handed battery price. Please charge battery and charger with battery and charger.

Slight touch is inevitable during the processing, perfectionism carefully shot

7 8 size: 235 (total length) * 86 (head) * 51 (barrel)

7 9 weight: 840g (bare tube)

7 0 Packing: 1340g

On the manual it is stated to use NarsilM as UI.

The price is around 230$ and the specs look really promising. You might want to get it on 11/11 because it is only half price then. I guess it will be quite expensive at the Haikelite Aliexpress store but maybe there will be a Banggood coupon later.

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GT4 lil brother….its kind of a appeitizer to hold us over until the GT4 is launched

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Wow it says it can do 1,500m, which means this will throw 2.5 times as far as the MT09R if true, which his quite amazing. Also love the deep fins. Heat shedding will be very good on this light. Also it’s the first time I’ve seen 8× 18650 without needing a carrier Thumbs Up

Does anyone know if the “built-in advanced intelligent temperature control settings, can automatically adjust the brightness according to the working state of the flashlight and the outside temperature” means it can also increase output as it cools like Anduril? The thing I didn’t like about the MT03 and MT09R with NarsilM is that it only knows how to regulate output downwards as the light heats but doesn’t know how to regulate upwards as the light cools. After a few minutes on the MT09R and MT03 NarsilM, the light is only a couple hundred lumens and doesn’t climb back up. Not good when used for tailstanding, which is one of my use cases.

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SKV89 wrote:

Does anyone know if the “built-in advanced intelligent temperature control settings, can automatically adjust the brightness according to the working state of the flashlight and the outside temperature” means it can also increase output as it cools like Anduril? The thing I didn’t like about the MT03 and MT09R with NarsilM is that it only knows how to regulate output downwards as the light heats but doesn’t know how to regulate upwards as the light cools. After a few minutes on the MT09R and MT03 NarsilM, the light is only a couple hundred lumens and doesn’t climb back up. Not good when used for tailstanding, which is one of my use cases.


It looks like Haikelite just adapted the the MT09R driver and NarsilM to fit this light. So the thermal control only regulates downward.

My suggestion when tail standing is don’t start out at a super high level. Start at a few thousand lumen. Then it doesn’t have to ramp down suddenly and get stuck at a low level. Wink

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Damn that’s disappointing. I will probably not buy this light then.

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SKV89 wrote:
Damn that’s disappointing. I will probably not buy this light then.

That’s okay, a lot folks like Narsil. Big Smile

Depending of what Toykeeper has already made, you should be able to reflash it to Anduril. We would need to verify the driver design first, though. If it’s designed just like the MT09R (twin FET with resistor bank) then the Astrolux MF01S version of Anduril should work.

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JasonWW wrote:
SKV89 wrote:
Damn that’s disappointing. I will probably not buy this light then.

That’s okay, a lot folks like Narsil. Big Smile

Depending of what Toykeeper has already made, you should be able to reflash it to Anduril. We would need to verify the driver design first, though. If it’s designed just like the MT09R (twin FET with resistor bank) then the Astrolux MF01S version of Anduril should work.

Anduril version of MF01S can be flashed on the Haikelite MT09R? Any link of someone who has tried it?

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SKV89 wrote:
Damn that’s disappointing. I will probably not buy this light then.

That’s okay, a lot folks like Narsil. Big Smile

Depending of what Toykeeper has already made, you should be able to reflash it to Anduril. We would need to verify the driver design first, though. If it’s designed just like the MT09R (twin FET with resistor bank) then the Astrolux MF01S version of Anduril should work.

Anduril version of MF01S can be flashed on the Haikelite MT09R? Any link of someone who has tried it?


Possibly, both are 6v, use Atiny85 mcu’s, and use dual FET’s with resistor banks.

There may be variations in the mcu pinout which would require a software modification. I think Lexel made the MF01S resistor bank go to about 500 lumen. That’s pretty low. I’m would imagine TA made the MT09R resistor bank to allow a higher output. So you might have to add/change some resistors on the MT09R driver to give smooth transitions between the channels. So in theory it can be done.

I’m just thinking of this off the top of my head. I don’t know if anyone has actually done it. I just know there are a lot of design similarities in these two drivers.

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SKV89 wrote:
Damn that's disappointing. I will probably not buy this light then.

You have a use case of this light to run it stand alone and want the max output it can give based on temp regulation? I can understand having it on a tripod on a high setting, but I was under the impression Anduril didn't do that well in temp regulating these extremely high power lights - TK said this herself at one time.

Certainly if the light is in your hand, it's easy to crank the output back up.

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What are the advantages of using the Luminus SST70 Vs. Cree XHP70.2?

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The Luminus SST70 has a smaller die and the 5050 footprint which is good for throw. The XHP70.2 has the 7070 size and also a bigger die than the SST70. The SST70 emits 4000 lumen from a die that is even slightly smaller than a XHP50.

With four XHP70.2 the Haikelite HT70 would throw maybe 700-800m while the SST70 gets 1500m throw. The XHP70.2 would certainly be brighter and more efficient but it also has a yellow tint shift in the beam.

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The SST-70 is way smaller than the 70.2. Here it is in the middle with the 50.2 on the right. You can see it’s also a quad die emitter. Maybe 4 SST-20 dies?
Pic by Djozz.

It’s die size looks pretty close to the xhp35-hd, but with way more output.

Here is Djozz review of the SST-70.

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The SST-70 is phenomenal given the near XHP50.2 output at near XHP35 die size. Just imagine if Manufacturers can shave the domes off them; if used in the R90TS, it can potentially produce like 60k lumens at 1.3MCD.

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but with its die surface area of (estimated from the pics) only 55%-60% of a XHP50.2, the throw will be significantly better. The throw will not match a XHP35 hi (the domeless led), but my guess is that it is not really far off, and with 80% more output. If one manages to dedome the SST-70 succesfully, the XHP35 will be beaten in throw, and with 50% more output (this is all my guesstimation).
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Looks very promising. Can someone tell me where to buy the light?! Couldn’t find it anywhere until now. What is the official AE store from Haikelite?

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Dunno if I believe Haikelite’s specs but even if it does “just” 12k and 1.3km that’s still impressive for an 85mm head.

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Tom_182 wrote:
Looks very promising. Can someone tell me where to buy the light?! Couldn’t find it anywhere until now. What is the official AE store from Haikelite?

It’s only on Taobao at the moment. A quick search looks like this might be the Aliexpress store.

https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/DkxdinLE

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Th558 wrote:
Dunno if I believe Haikelite’s specs but even if it does “just” 12k and 1.3km that’s still impressive for an 85mm head.


HT70 gives almost 200% output and 90% beam intensity of x65mini.
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pearlriver wrote:
Th558 wrote:
Dunno if I believe Haikelite’s specs but even if it does “just” 12k and 1.3km that’s still impressive for an 85mm head.


HT70 gives almost 200% output and 90% beam intensity of x65mini.

Don’t know where you got those numbers from but the HT70 and X65 mini are pretty comparable.
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Th558 wrote:
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Th558 wrote:
Dunno if I believe Haikelite’s specs but even if it does “just” 12k and 1.3km that’s still impressive for an 85mm head.


HT70 gives almost 200% output and 90% beam intensity of x65mini.

Don’t know where you got those numbers from but the HT70 and X65 mini are pretty comparable.

Dabo gave me the data from a UNI-T UT383BT luxmeter who posted the http://tieba.baidu.com/p/6279468226
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Freeme group buy info here.
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/69929

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8× 18650? Series or parallel? Is that a requirement for the 1500m throw? This is the best meter per dollar out there it seems?

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ttylamg wrote:
8× 18650? Series or parallel? Is that a requirement for the 1500m throw? This is the best meter per dollar out there it seems?

2 in series, and 4 of those parallel. This determines driver design to power the leds. You can have more throw for less $ than this light, but you’ll most likely have a smaller hotspot, and much less bright spill.

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hIKARInoob wrote:
You can have more throw for less $ than this light, but you’ll most likely have a smaller hotspot, and much less bright spill.

Can you recommend some? Thanks

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ttylamg wrote:
hIKARInoob wrote:
You can have more throw for less $ than this light, but you’ll most likely have a smaller hotspot, and much less bright spill.

Can you recommend some? Thanks

For example a single emitter XHP35 HI light with decent sized reflector like the Atrolux MF02, or the Imalent RT35. Both are in the order of $80 with coupon.
And for an even smaller hotspot with less bright spill there’s the upcoming Noctigon K1 discussed here: http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1579523#comment-1579523

P.S. We don’t know for sure the HT70 actually does 1500m / ~550klux