New Olight i1R 2 EOS

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New Olight i1R 2 EOS

I just noticed there is a new version of the i1R with updated specs: https://www.olightstore.com/i1r-2-eos.html

Differences spotted so far on the i1R 2:

  • brand new 5-sided glowing Chip Scale Packaging LED
  • max brightness is increased to 150 lumens from 130 lumens
  • length and diameter have increased a bit (44 × 14.8 mm) vs (41 × 14 mm)
  • weight is slightly increased (13 g vs 12 g)
  • micro USB charging cable is no longer included

The big difference is the CSP LED with more flood and less throw. I haven’t found any reviews yet.

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I saw these. I don’t recall seeing the run times. Hopefully they’re improved.

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With the increased brightness, I doubt it.

The max runtime (low: 5 lumens) is listed at 6h instead of 7h. The runtime on high has a typo… it says “40m” but that looks like the beam distance. The first version lists 15 minutes runtime on high (130 lumens).

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You can get a micro USB charging cable for free from the US store, but not the Australian store.

I thought the original i1R EOS would have made a nice gift apart from the lack of low-voltage protection. I hope they’ve fixed that on the new model.

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Olight is giving these away for free, like the desert tan i3e, for old customers. You have to pay shipping though, and I’m not sure if it is exclusive to the U.S.

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I contacted Olight Australia and they told me that the i1R 2 EOS does have low-voltage protection.

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Weird description, 5-sided CSP led. You could call an XP-L2 a 5-sided led with some fantasy.

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djozz wrote:
Weird description, 5-sided CSP led. You could call an XP-L2 a 5-sided led with some fantasy.

I thought the four bumps might be auxiliary emitters, providing more flood and leading to the “5” sided LED claim.

If those bumps aren’t emitters and “5-sided” is referring to 5 of the 6 sides of a rectangular box shape of an emitter… well that’s hilarious.

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djozz wrote:
Weird description, 5-sided CSP

https://www.ledsmagazine.com/leds-ssl-design/article/16695593/examine-th... don’t know if this link is going to work. It’s not a weird description it’s somewhat newer technology.
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Oli wrote:
djozz wrote:
Weird description, 5-sided CSP

https://www.ledsmagazine.com/leds-ssl-design/article/16695593/examine-th... don’t know if this link is going to work. It’s not a weird description it’s somewhat newer technology.

Nice article. I think what was meant is that “5-sided” is the “weird description”, not the CSP technology.
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The edge of the spill has a square shape with faded corners. i.e. it looks like there are four auxiliary emitters, or it’s an equivalent effect by the optics.

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I have the old i1R EOS and have the i1R2 EOS on the way. I’ll report back on differences noted.

Btw, the original included micro USB cable is really nice. It’s a shame that they’re not being included any longer.

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Since you’re in the US, you can add the USB cable for free. I can confirm the i1R 2 EOS did not come with the charging cable, and it is not offered in (all?) other countries.

Comparing to the Sofirn C01S, the build quality of the i1R2 feels better, the threads are smoother with practically no play, and it turns on solidly, instead of the finicky flickering of the C01S at the border between off and on states (does anyone else have this with their C01S?).

The spill and hotspot are wider on the i1R2 compared to the C01S, making it really great for general illumination. The color temperature is also colder and colors don’t look as nice. It’s also brighter.

Compared to the original i1R (based on images), the head/body split on the i1R 2 is more uneven (~75/25 vs ~55/45) making it a little trickier to grip the back for one-handed operation. The tradeoff is a nice captive head. I’m not sure if the head can actually come off.

The size and weight are very nice for a keychain light. The diameter is noticeably larger in my hand than the C01S, and I wish this weren’t the case.

Overall I like it in nearly every aspect, but the color temperature and CRI of the C01S are more pleasant.

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Lvp?

If not its a disposable light

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Apparently:

skinny_tie wrote:
I contacted Olight Australia and they told me that the i1R 2 EOS does have low-voltage protection.

But the battery isn’t replaceable. Not even sure how to get the head off.

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Hey, so I got one of these i1R 2 eos’ from Olight on black friday when they did the “free, but you pay shipping” deal for old customers and it immediately went on to my keys.

So far very happy with this. Previously I was using their i3E eos and it was my favorite key chain light. However i like the charging ability of the new one. also the two modes are great. it’s not a double twist. you just twist and it comes on low and if you keep twisting it goes high. also it stays together when open for charging, so you don’t have a tiny piece floating around on a desk or floor waiting to get lost under something.

One thing. I have a little trouble getting my charger cable in. like the cable is too big, but it does charge. normally I have too many cables and don’t want more, but this time I wish they sent one.

Would love some other colors.

Does anyone know the CRI on both of these lights?



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I find the tint is much cooler then the previous version

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Blackbeard wrote:
I find the tint is much cooler then the previous version
nydude wrote:
Does anyone know the CRI on both of these lights?

Noticeably worse than the SST-20, though more pleasant than my Sipik SK68. That and the non-replaceable battery are the biggest weaknesses. Otherwise it’s very nice.

Does anyone know how to test for LVP?

Without disassembling I can’t measure voltage, so I have kept the light on to see if it turns off by itself. Right now the light is so weak that it must be sub-lumen, as it is useless for anything except in pitch black. I can comfortably look straight at the LED. I can’t see colors with that brightness. It’s strange when red looks black. Still, it’s amazing what even a tiny amount of light can do, definitely better than nothing.

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Blackbeard wrote:
I find the tint is much cooler then the previous version
Yes, just got mine. I had interpreted my i1R EOS as leaning cool white. This i1R2 EOS is most definitely cool white. Larger TIR optic. I can see the 130 to 150 lumens jump. It’s nominal. Frankly, I just assume they keep 130 lumens and extend runtime more.

Btw, just be aware that when you keep on your key chain, the lower body grip area (fluted lines) will lose lots of anodizing from rubbing against metal keys. When I get a chance I’ll take a comparative photo to show it.

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I jumped on the “free but must pay shipping” deal and received my light yesterday, Looks nicely made. Bright enough for its intended use and is pretty easy to operate with one hand. I had to practice a bit, but it’s a solid design.

My only concern is the non-replaceable battery. Kinda stinks if it’s going to be useless one day. I dislike disposable products.

I did some poking around and on the Olight product spec page, there’s a few pics of the battery and both sides of the charging board. I couldn’t see the brand name of the battery though or the size.

Here’s a link to the download with the pics:

https://olightworld.com/index.php?route=product/download/download&did=148

Maybe someone can glean a bit more info about it by looking there.

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PBWilson wrote:
I jumped on the “free but must pay shipping” deal and received my light yesterday, Looks nicely made. Bright enough for its intended use and is pretty easy to operate with one hand. I had to practice a bit, but it’s a solid design.

My only concern is the non-replaceable battery. Kinda stinks if it’s going to be useless one day. I dislike disposable products.

I did some poking around and on the Olight product spec page, there’s a few pics of the battery and both sides of the charging board. I couldn’t see the brand name of the battery though or the size.

Here’s a link to the download with the pics:

https://olightworld.com/index.php?route=product/download/download&did=148

Maybe someone can glean a bit more info about it by looking there.

10180 huahui new energy

Without LVP its a disposable light unless u take it apart to swap the bat Wink

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Nice find, PBWilson!

Any idea if the disassembly shown in the pictures is possible reversibly, or if the internals were from a not-yet-assembled or destroyed unit?

Bearbreeder wrote:

Without LVP its a disposable light unless u take it apart to swap the bat Wink

Why do you say that?

Can the presence of LVP be verified without measuring voltage?

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as for being disposable? even if it dies completely one day I have to assume it has more than enough cycles in it to get me to another even better light sometime down the road. I’ll use the hell out of it and gladly give them as gifts.

Especially at this price.

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PBWilson wrote:
I jumped on the “free but must pay shipping” deal and received my light yesterday, Looks nicely made. Bright enough for its intended use and is pretty easy to operate with one hand. I had to practice a bit, but it’s a solid design.

My only concern is the non-replaceable battery. Kinda stinks if it’s going to be useless one day. I dislike disposable products.

I did some poking around and on the Olight product spec page, there’s a few pics of the battery and both sides of the charging board. I couldn’t see the brand name of the battery though or the size.

Here’s a link to the download with the pics:

https://olightworld.com/index.php?route=product/download/download&did=148

Maybe someone can glean a bit more info about it by looking there.

I look at it this way — the cost of the light is far cheaper than the effort to replace the battery. It is disposable… unless someone wants to have a practice run at soldering with it. Would be curious to see if anyone has tried modifying.
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Its disposable because accidental activation to 0v a few times will kill the bat

Its not the best idea to discharge li-on bats to 0v, nor recharge em back up afterwards either

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Dont see the problem really, by the time the battery is worn out u probably have something else…

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these little 10180 lights are pretty generic
you can buy replacement 10180 cells that are usually unprotected
Klarus sells a protected version

I dont own the Olight version, and its cool the head is captive, but Im confident it can be removed so you could replace the battery

there is NO LVP built into these lights
you Can buy batteries w LVP

> Does anyone know the CRI on both of these lights?

they are low CRI, that means about 70CRI Ra, with negative CRI R9 (red spectrum)
IF they were High CRI, it would be mentioned in the marketing material

Olight only makes One High CRI light I can think of, and it has terrible tint rainbow (xp-g3 S1 Mini)

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xevious wrote:
I look at it this way — the cost of the light is far cheaper than the effort to replace the battery.
Maybe because the real cost of throwing things away is not being accounted for.

jon_slider wrote:
Im confident it can be removed so you could replace the battery
After unscrewing the head to reveal the charging port, I haven’t managed to keep the head centered (it constantly angles off to one side or another), and haven’t succeeded in getting the next threaded section to catch. It’s like the spring or something else prevents it.

Interesting note: the threads are entirely hidden and can’t be seen even after revealing the charging port. Aside from looking neater, it might keep the threads cleaner.

And yes, definitely low CRI.

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mortuus wrote:
Dont see the problem really, by the time the battery is worn out u probably have something else…

Yeah have it turn on by accident and have that 10180 drain down to 0v a time or two

See how that works (hint for reviewers since u get free lights anyways)

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Some comparative photos. Hopes this helps illustrate the differences. Olight i1R EOS has been on car key fob chain for 1 year. Olight i1R2 EOS is brand new.




Low mode comparison


High mode comparison

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Bearbreeder wrote:
Its disposable because accidental activation to 0v a few times will kill the bat

Its not the best idea to discharge li-on bats to 0v, nor recharge em back up afterwards either

Interesting. Guess I just assumed all half decent companies/lights have that protection built in. Is it confirmed that there is no LVP in this light?

I will confirm that an extra half turn, or so, after it’s turned off is enough to make sure it can’t turn on by being pressed down, and still plenty secure to remain closed and probably water tight.

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