Xiaomi Wiha Zu Hause Electric Power Screwdriver (Arrived)

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Xiaomi Wiha Zu Hause Electric Power Screwdriver (Arrived)

My Wiha has arrived today. I gave my First Impressions Review in Post #17

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Xiaomi Wiha Zu Hause Electric Power Screwdriver

Seems relatively new to the market.
I’ve been looking hard for for a good cordless electric screwdriver… Hope this is a good one, cause I just bought it. Pretty compact for what it is and the all metal gearbox sold me along with the Wiha name brand.
Pretty much all my cordless tools are Milwaukee. But wasnt looking to spend $100 on a screwdriver plus another battery (4V) form factor.

All 15 reviews on BG are positive. And other reviews are scarce.
Got $5.55 off the total, Now $31.44 with coupon :
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Sorry but I think the links and codes are for USA only. I dont know how to get international links or codes. And again this a NON Affiliate link. Just posted my findings on the screwdriver I bought.

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Looks interesting; I wish the cell was removable. Let us know how it performs, will you?

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Hey Don,
Will do.

Looks like an improved version of the Wiha SpeedE ($240) that used 18500 batts but those were removable KeepPower cells. And the speedE also has drawbacks with its design, how it it is turned on to screw with sensing torque and its low 0.4Nm motor stall torque… I would much rather have buttons.

I couldn’t find a linkable pic of the gearbox pic but it appears to have cam rollers to help hold it tight while hand tightening or loosening screws. Keeps the torque off the gearbox itself. This one has 2 motor torque settings. The 0.4Nm and 1Nm which is only 3/4 of a Ft/Lb or 8.85In/Lbs.
And it supposedly has an 18650 inside. Hate to admit it but this will be my first device with USB C. Who knows… top cap kinda looks like it may come off, but doubt it.

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There are lots of these 4V screwdrivers on Amazon in the $20 to $25 range. Is this Xiaomi one better?

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Had a couple B&D electric screwdrivers and both were JUNK. Plastic gears and plastic hex holder inside that will round out with one twist.

Been looking lately and only 2 have caught my interest after researching.
Looking for something small … I narrowed it down to the Bosch or Dremel (same company) or the Skil or HammerHead, again same tool different branding. But I have no clue of whats inside them as far as the gearbox.

Only found this one today and bought it. Should be here in 7-20 days Facepalm
$34 to my door, I took a chance. I have a German tool fetish. Wiha is German… Xiaomi Mi makes good stuff too. So we will see if I made a good decision.

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any chance the bits from this xlnt screwdriver set will fit?
https://usa.banggood.com/XIAOMI-Mijia-Wiha-24-in-1-Multi-purpose-Precisi...

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any chance the bits from this xlnt screwdriver set will fit? https://usa.banggood.com/XIAOMI-Mijia-Wiha-24-in-1-Multi-purpose-Precisi...

It’s smaller…good for the Wowstick only.

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I like the Bosch Go mini screwdriver a lot but I also find it doesn’t feel “right” to me when unscrewing a screw. Something about having to push the screwdriver into the screw to turn it on when unthreading just feels odd to me. It is great for tightening. I am a bit odd in some ways myself though. Wink

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I had a dremel cordless screwdriver that lasted for years, I believe it had 2× 18500 in series and was rated 7.2V. It was even fully submerged in water and still worked… I don’t know if the new one is built the same.

For some reason I don’t feel xiaomi tools are made to last. I had the $20 precision bits set and started showing rust spots after a few months.

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I clicked on this thread with extreme interest. I would buy a few of these for X-mas gifts and one for myself as well, if found to be built with any quality at all.

Power screwdrivers are a great concept for many home “some assembly required” purchases. Speeds up the assembly, with less risk of using a high powered drill. Saves on the aggravation, and sore wrists.

I have soured on Black and Decker products after finding my drill/driver set showing rust spots when I went to use them, stored unused in my fairly dry basement.

Are there any decent power screwdrivers out there?

The lighter the brighter the better.

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MtnDon wrote:
I like the Bosch Go mini screwdriver a lot but I also find it doesn’t feel “right” to me when unscrewing a screw. Something about having to push the screwdriver into the screw to turn it on when unthreading just feels odd to me. It is great for tightening. I am a bit odd in some ways myself though. Wink

I too have this Bosch Go mini. I agree with MtnDon. While it’s so ‘torquey’, having to push the whole thing to make turn-on, even unscrewing, makes its UI the weirdest design I ever encountered. Had I known before….

…and now this Wiha Zu Hause has got my attention.

Does anyone know if pressing no button will lock the driver?

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tatasal wrote:
chinooker wrote:
any chance the bits from this xlnt screwdriver set will fit? https://usa.banggood.com/XIAOMI-Mijia-Wiha-24-in-1-Multi-purpose-Precisi...

It’s smaller…good for the Wowstick only.

there are bit adapters for the 4mm hex micro bits to 1/4in hex

https://www.amazon.com/Wiha-75802-Insert-System-Adaptor/dp/B00XIPRG4M/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=4mm+bit+adapter&qid=1577515610&sr=8-3

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Just got an email that my Wiha screwdriver wass released from US Customs in NY. I should have it in a few days.
Also got a PM from a member that the code in the OP is no longer valid. I found a couple more codes that I hope will help. I will also post them in the OP.
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I bought the Mini 121 for my hard to buy nephew for Christmas after seeing a Marco Reps video where he’s using it on a project. All the engineers where Nephew works love it (he says), but it’s way too damned expensive for me to own, I’ll stick with a cheap manual one:-)

Mini now $95 – (I paid $76, might have had a Fin coupon) https://www.banggood.com/Upgraded-MINI-ES121-Electric-Screwdriver-Smart-Repairtools-Built-in-STM32-Chip-OLED-with-Screwbits-p-1258406.html?rmmds=myorder&ID=528136&cur_warehouse=USA

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vwpieces wrote:
Just got an email that my Wiha screwdriver wass released from US Customs in NY. I should have it in a few days.
Also got a PM from a member that the code in the OP is no longer valid. I found a couple more codes that I hope will help. I will also post them in the OP.
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Thanks. Looking forward to your impressions. I don’t have a real driving need for a power screwdriver, but have always had the thought of getting one eventually. Xiaomi makes some good things. I have one of their very unusual design LED table lamps, with a dual LED setup. I could never get the WiFi app to work for remote control, but it wasn’t a big deal. It’s a really neat concept that Xiaomi pioneered with Philips (LINK).
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That Mini 121 and even the 120 are NEAT. But… not something I would buy for that coin.
I do have the AAA USB rechargeable WOWStick. Only use it occasionally, but I do like it for small screws.

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WEEHAW!!
My Wiha electric screwdriver came today!

First impressions: This thing is Flippin Neat.
Came fully charged (I think) cause the green light came on as I plugged the USB-C connector into it. As it charges there is a Green LED that appears to be breathing as it ramps up and down.

Need to hold in the torque button in to get it to change setting. Green is the low and the 2 smaller bits are color coded to help recall settings. I can stop the driver with my hand in low and it will flash a red LED once it stalls. Orange is the high torque setting. I can Not stop the bits with my hand on High or Orange setting.

This has a Great Solid Feel to it and has some weight, certainly does not feel cheap. Really feels like a quality tool in hand. Handle is rubberized from about the reverse button to the tail cap. Nice texture and feels durable. I didn’t realize at first it was a different coating till I torqued on it and can also feel its softer with my fingernail. For me there is enough room on the rubber section of the handle to really get a good grip without touching the buttons.

2 LED lights at the front are positioned where they light up the area needed pretty well. But only light up with the direction buttons pushed. Would be nice it they had a 3 second delay to turn off the LEDs. That would be enough time to locate the screw head and get the bit ready to remove the screw without having the bit turning to light up.

Bits are all Wiha branded and seem of good quality. Bits are nicely uniformly cut. No branding on the extension. There does seem to be a magnet in the handle to hold the bits in but I cant get it to pickup or hold a screw. The extension has a ball-detent to hold it firmly in the handle and holds in good. Magnet in the extension is Strong to hold bits and screws.
On the handle it is branded:
Screw Driver 4129
Wiha Tools (Shanghai)
Made in China.

I think it shuts down after setting a few minutes. Hard to tell this early on… but twice now I needed to press the direction button 2X to get it to turn. Correction: does seem to shut down but it only has a fraction of a second delay if you hold a direction button after it’s been sitting for a while. Otherwise pushing a direction button is instant motion.

Sadly… The back cap don’t come off. Perhaps it will after some use and a few drops on the floor. But I can’t force my luck on my new toy.

Well, that’s my first impressions of it so far. Happy with it but it hasn’t really been tested yet.

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Thanks for the update

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Thank you vwpieces. Sounds like a promising tool!

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Welcome,
Will do another update when I get a project to really test it out.
But so far I am impressed with it. Certainly has a place in the toolbox next to my Snap-On and Hazet ratcheting screwdrivers.

Added some slight updates to the post #17… like the Country of manufacture, charge indicator and some info bout the delay after sitting.

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Backpacker Light wrote:
Are there any decent power screwdrivers out there?

If you are willing to spend some money, take a look at Dewalt’s gyroscopic screwdriver. The UI is either love it or hate it but I fall into the love it camp. I’ve had it for 4 years now and it has served me well.
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Backpacker Light wrote:
Are there any decent power screwdrivers out there?
If you are willing to spend some money, take a look at Dewalt’s gyroscopic screwdriver. The UI is either love it or hate it but I fall into the love it camp. I’ve had it for 4 years now and it has served me well.

OK. I checked this DeWalt item out. I fell hopelessly in love with it. After “hemming and hawing”:https://www.yourdictionary.com/hem-and-haw over it for a week, I bought one. I got the” kit with 2 batteries and charger”:https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DL7QDS2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_titl.... I don’t know if I’ll need the extra pack but for only $2 more than a single battery it seemed like a no-brainer to me.

vwpieces, thanks for starting this thread. I do hope the Xiaomi works well.

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Well, this electric screwdriver of mine which is the subject matter of this thread, when I started to use it, it has to be fully-charged each time I use it or it won’t work. Charging it fully before using to do some light work, then storing it afterwards will render it life-less after only 3 days in my drawer.

Right now I don’t know the cause of the problem..but it should be either crap OEM cell or horrendous battery parasitic drain from its electronics.

I was able to have it opened…the OEM cell is branded TL ICR18650 1500mAh that will now NOT accept a charge from any of my stand-alone chargers and using Vapcell YR1030 IR meter it registered 57mohm.

Update to come as they become available.

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Sorry to hear about the problem. Could be a crap cell. Hopefully that is all.

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thanks for letting us know. I was wondering about this screwdrivers and their quality, will stay away for now.
There are so many available, not clue which ones are good or not.

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Update:

Earlier I measured the IR of the OEM cell (TL ICR18650 1500mAh) and it registered 57mohm. This is the TL cell:

After two hours, it registered 67+mohm IR in my Vapcell YR1030 and it started to leak, even staining the polyurethane coating in my wooden desk!:

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so can you fix it by just replacing the cell?

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2A wrote:
so can you fix it by just replacing the cell?

In all probability, yes, I will know tomorrow because I will have to bring my Panasonic NCR18650PF cell to my friend’s shop and put it in to replace the not only dead, but also leaking cell.

What I am much more interested to know is the cause of the drain..either bad electronics or utterly crap OEM cell used by the manufacturer.

Edit: I got this Wiha Zu Hause Electric Power Screwdriver from Banggood and when I complained to them about the problem at the time I got it last year, with only one email I was able to receive a refund notice from their rep. True enough I did get the refund three days after receiving the refund notice.

Now in hindsight, I wonder if this electric screwdriver manufacturer has chosen a crap cell supplier, quality-wise, or is there is just a problem with my specific unit’s electronics’ parasitic draw?

I just hope is the former, not the latter.

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Well, if you’re looking for a good electric screwdriver that wont fail you:
Good torque
Metal gears
long battery life
21 Clutch settings – set it real low so you dont strip screws, set it all the way up for tough stuff, or even use like a manual screwdriver!.

This is what I use at work to mount server in racks, disassemble them, etc. Actually it’s the updated model:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07L78Y72J

(Metabo used to be Hitachi)

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tatasal wrote:
Well, this electric screwdriver of mine which is the subject matter of this thread, when I started to use it, it has to be fully-charged each time I use it or it won't work. Charging it fully before using to do some light work, then storing it afterwards will render it life-less after only 3 days in my drawer.

tatasal wrote:

Edit: I got this Wiha Zu Hause Electric Power Screwdriver from Banggood and when I complained to them about the problem at the time I got it last year, with only one email I was able to receive a refund notice from their rep. True enough I did get the refund three days after receiving the refund notice.

Now in hindsight, I wonder if this electric screwdriver manufacturer has chosen a crap cell supplier, quality-wise, or is there is just a problem with my specific unit's electronics' parasitic draw?

Smells like both high parasitic draw (?) and (probably) low quality cell at the same time.

Certain things you say simply don't make sense to me, though. Like “had to be fully charged before use”, for example.

Maybe Banggood knew the unit was faulty, did you got confirmation about this?

Hope the electronics can still work, with some devices the manufacturers set electronic flags which render the devices non-easily restorable. My brother once gave me a 2x AAA powered pop-up trimmer which could work while connected to its power adapter, or if it was turned on connected to the adapter and then disconnected. But the electronics had “discarded” normal operation for the device, and so no way for the stuff to operate without its supply at hand even if their cells were replaced. No way I am buying crap like that, suffice to say.

P.S.: be sure to install a cell with enough power delivery or amperage draw, nothing less than a 30Q I'd recommend.

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Barkuti]<p>[quote=tatasal wrote:

Certain things you say simply don’t make sense to me, though. Like “had to be fully charged before use”, for example.

P.S.: be sure to install a cell with enough power delivery or amperage draw, nothing less than a 30Q I’d recommend.

This is what happened from the time I received it: It didn’t work out of the box, (not really surprised by this), so I charged it. Maybe an hour or so (usb-c) it showed ‘full’ and it worked. Did some light to moderate work with it, then put inside its original box for storage.

After perhaps a month of so, I wanted to use it again and it won’t work, again. Charged it to ‘full’ again and it worked, but after working I put it inside my drawer, (a little bit worried already) so I can check it easily if I want to. First few days it worked when tested. On the third day it won’t work again.

And the cycle is repeated, each time the same procedure, several times.

Fast forward several months: the other day I brought it to friend who knows how to open a non-user serviceable tool, and we come to my previous posts above.

Btw, I’ll be replacing the OEM cell with a genuine Samsung INR18650-25R, which has even a higher continuous rating than the 30Q.

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