[WTB] Led Lenser P3 AFS/P

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Agro wrote:
I see, thanks for the explanation.

There is still one thing that I don’t understand.
How does P3 AFS/P zoom without putting the LED on a pole?

Same principle as the larger lensers. The cup on the optic surrounds the LED and retracts all the way back to the base of the star.

It doesn’t need a pillar, because the lens is so tiny and the focal length is so short. Even without a pillar the emission cone from the LED still hits the entirety of the TIR even in spot mode.

The bigger lensers need a pillar because they have a longer focal length.

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Ah, I see, I haven’t thought about utilizing MCPCB as a kind of pillar. Smile
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Agro wrote:
I see, thanks for the explanation.

There is still one thing that I don’t understand.
How does P3 AFS/P zoom without putting the LED on a pole?


The LED itself is thick enough that it allows the TIR to fit around it:

(this is a mod, the original LED is a 5mm LED, but you can see why it would fit inside a TIR easily and be raised up)
Most other led lenser flashlights have a tiny MCPCB and the MCPCB is raised on an alunimum pole, not this flashlight though.
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I just got my P3 AFS/P.

The first seller failed to deliver it, the distributor is already out of stock. So if anyone wants to buy this host – this is the last chance.

First impressions?

1. This is not true that the central part is relatively large. It is slightly larger than with my other TIR zoomies, but not as large as with other Led Lensers that I’ve seen.

2. The flood is narrow. Clearly too narrow for comfort but not narrow enough to be a killer blow. And it’s ringy.
3. The throw is square. There is a small round hotspot surrounded by square die projection. I suppose that a small (for a LL) central section makes the square part larger than the round one. I’m not bothered by it being square. But it’s also clearly out of focus.
4. Intermediate beam has a hole in the middle, just like all cheap TIR zoomies that I tried
5. There is clear tint shift in the beam.

Overall the first impression is a severe disappointment.
I did expect some rings as I’ve seen them in reviews. But still this does not look like the lens of P3 AFS/P does not live up to the legendary Led Lenser quality.

I will EDC it now. And I can’t wait to try it outdoor.
The main promise of TIR zoomies is that the spot diameter does not get so much smaller while zooming which is great for walking. I still hope that this will make me like the Led Lenser.

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I modded my P3 AFSP by replacing the stock LED with an XPL HI and running it on IMR 10440.

This made the light a lot brighter and greatly improved the tint.

Unfortunately, it also fried the driver. Result is the light no longer works on AAA. Instead it’s full power only on 10440. It still works, but with no modes and no AAA support, runtime is extremely short. Too short for me to consider using it as an EDC over my usual 14500 or 18650 light.

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I a driver swap too hard?

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The switch is somewhat glitchy. Yesterday it stayed pressed down and didn’t want to go back. After hitting the side of the light with my palm a few times it jumped back….and a second later the light was off.
I got scared a bit…but it turned out that the battery run out just at that moment.
Today I put a new cell and it shines fine. But during one click there was a glitch again. Not strong enough to completely block the switch but strong enough to make me think “not again…”.

It’s still on my neck, so far I fail to find time to take it for a walk outside…

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I picked up the Led Lenser MT10 on sale because I was impressed with the focusing system on a friend’s Coast G450 (sadly it uses AA batteries only), and wanted something similar in a smaller form factor and 18650 battery.

My impressions are similar to yours. When testing indoors the flood was narrower than I was hoping for and slightly square with ringing at the edges. The spot was an unfocused square and circle overlayed on top of each other, but relatively bright. I was not impressed with the beamshots on a wall. However, I think it does better in real use outside. The flood is very usable and the spot focus has decent throw. The focusing system is good but not as good the Coast G450 focus. I think a big reason is that the G450 was a much larger flashlight with a much larger optic that produces a more even and larger flood, and its just not possible to achieve the same with the MT10’s smaller optic. I got it at a significant discount, and even so I debated returning it. I was hoping for something much nicer, and I think the retail price is ridiculous. However, the light is unique in my collection and maybe it’ll grow on me with more use. At least its better than any zoomie I’ve tried.

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i had the aa ledlensor but lost it and ive also got a p5r led lensor in peices waiting to get fixed, its at the bottom of the pile of getting fixed

p5r is a 14500 battery type

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BTW I’ve been working on a flat renovation. Gypsum corrections recently. I’ll no longer accept the arguments that shining a light at white wall is not an accurate representation of how does a light work in real use.

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