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@Boaz, really funny! I hope you don’t mind but I took most of your responses with some variations and make a joke image out of it:

Hahaha, this killed me.

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I haven’t read all 1,600 posts in this thread, but if the one you are referring to makes a political statement then yes, it’s out of line. Report it, and move on. Don’t quote it, and don’t further discuss it.

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Hospitals are considering universal do not resuscitate policy in US.

Are you sure it is “policy” and not “politicians”?

It is neither. Several hospitals in the US, being hit with shortages of personal protection equipment have been pondering how to make best use of their ppe. They may have to make decisions on this as gear runs lower.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/03/25/coronavirus-patients-do...

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@brad Please drop the subject and delete your posts on this page of the thread.

Edit: Thank you very much for quickly complying.

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Coronavirus Rhapsody is awesome! I hope the creators don’t get sued by Queen. I kinda think it’s really a Public Service Announcement.

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carmantl wrote:
Coronavirus Rhapsody is awesome! I hope the creators don’t get sued by Queen. I kinda think it’s really a Public Service Announcement.

I think that’s what Vanilla Ice told the judge. It did not work out for him.

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well,here in Slovakia we have some news-corona positive patients in home isolation carantena will be followed by their cell phones…To get the control over them…Very controversial step,but probably it can help…Many stupid people moved to Italy for skiing….I cant understand it.
But i have a question for everybody in this thread-what do you think?When this pandemic will be finally over,how will be our world change?
Or,will change anything?Or just measuring temperature on the airports?
Or is there anything deeper we have to change in our lives??Philosophical thoughts for my another single evening….

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The UK no longer considers this virus to be a high consequence infectious disease. They’ve downgraded it based on the most current information available.
gov.uk
A meta-analysis of the data, posted on CEBM, has been used to estimate an infection fatality rate of 0.2% or less.

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CRX wrote:
Has anyone discussed if this is expected to be an annual thing like normal flu or a one off which will be sorted out once we get our magick mandatory vaccine?

We have new polis powers of fines (£30-
£1000) for the unwashed and dispersal for people who congregate in threes or more except buses, trains, shopping centres and construction sites.
Fines. Really.
Yay…
Some shops are refusing cash in case they get handed a dreaded coronaback.

A total of 11,487 Scottish tests have concluded.
Of these:
10,593 tests were confirmed negative
894 tests were positive
25 deaths (not including the homeless who were rounded up and shot)

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vresto wrote:
But i have a question for everybody in this thread-what do you think?When this pandemic will be finally over,how will be our world change? Or,will change anything?Or just measuring temperature on the airports? Or is there anything deeper we have to change in our lives??Philosophical thoughts for my another single evening….

This will be the most defining and drastic event of the decade/generation (hopefully nothing worse comes along anyway). Similar to how the Great Depression, WWII, Vietnam/Cold war and social movements and 9/11 and the wars in Afghanistan/Iraq in 2000s were for previous generations of Americans. The economic, logisitcal and political ramifications are massive.

I doubt international/air travel will be affected nearly as much as when security was massively increased due to terrorism/drugs, but that depends entirely on how soon we get a vaccine and how effective it is.

I am still so thankful that children are relatively unaffected by COVID-19 and that Corona-type viruses generally don’t mutate as quickly as something like influenza. After the tragedies of Zika virus what a relief that the very young will be relatively safe.

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Rexlion wrote:
The UK no longer considers this virus to be a high consequence infectious disease. They've downgraded it based on the most current information available. "gov.uk":https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-consequence-infectious-diseases-hcid A meta-analysis of the data, posted on CEBM, has been used to estimate an infection fatality rate of 0.2% or less.

 

They are basically saying it's just the flu.  Gives more credence to the many experts that were stating the world has over reacted to this virus.  In order to save face, most countries are probably going to drag this out a little more, look red faced in the mirror and then move on with everything.

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Rexlion wrote:
The UK no longer considers this virus to be a high consequence infectious disease. They’ve downgraded it based on the most current information available. gov.uk A meta-analysis of the data, posted on CEBM, has been used to estimate an infection fatality rate of 0.2% or less.

This is “funny” to see…
Looking to the “consideration” about Covid-19 VS the definition and classification of HCID
And looking to the “rankings” (‘cause everything today is about rankings…) where UK is the 9th country with most infected and the 6th with most deaths…
And looking to the measures taken after the 19th March, when that Guidance was posted.

It confuses me!…

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vresto wrote:
well,here in Slovakia we have some news-corona positive patients in home isolation carantena will be followed by their cell phones…To get the control over them…

Well, it’s not like they can venture out in public and leave their phones at home.

Oh, wait…

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But i have a question for everybody in this thread-what do you think?When this pandemic will be finally over,how will be our world change?

Ohhhhh, boy. No way to answer that without getting “political”.

Very short reply, then I’m out. Massive grab for power and control by The Authorities™. Red or blue, it makes zero difference. (9/11, school shootings, pandemic, any “crisis” will lead down the same road.)

Given the push for a “cashless society”, expect there to be demonisation of “dirty filthy cash”, and moves to ban it. Before, “only criminals insist on the privacy of cash”, but now, it’s a “public health issue”.

Expect less privacy of your personal medical records. Bad enough everything you do or have done, medically, ends up recorded at the MIB (Medical Information Bureau), now, more and more “agencies” will expect/demand access to everyone’s records.

Expect more control/tracking/facial-recognition/you-name-it to become more commonplace. How else are you going to track Corona Mary?

Ties to phones (as above), cars (plate-readers), internet usage, etc. will probably become more commonplace as well.

“When you want to beat a dog, you’ll find a stick”. Well, Hurricane Corona that’s sweeping the world is one Hell of a big convenient stick.

Go’head, hoot’n‘holler now, but mark this post. Check back in a year or two. Maybe less.

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The British catching their apocalypse numbers mistake is calming things down. People are starting to rethink this global nightmare.

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MascaratumB wrote:
Rexlion wrote:
The UK no longer considers this virus to be a high consequence infectious disease. They’ve downgraded it based on the most current information available. gov.uk A meta-analysis of the data, posted on CEBM, has been used to estimate an infection fatality rate of 0.2% or less.

This is “funny” to see…
Looking to the “consideration” about Covid-19 VS the definition and classification of HCID
And looking to the “rankings” (‘cause everything today is about rankings…) where UK is the 9th country with most infected and the 6th with most deaths…
And looking to the measures taken after the 19th March, when that Guidance was posted.

It confuses me!…


And then at the same time they are creating MASSIVE temporary hospitals like this one:

It really is a very mixed message, and that’s not just the case in the UK.

Lightbringer wrote:
vresto wrote:
well,here in Slovakia we have some news-corona positive patients in home isolation carantena will be followed by their cell phones…To get the control over them…

Well, it’s not like they can venture out in public and leave their phones at home.

Oh, wait…

vresto wrote:
But i have a question for everybody in this thread-what do you think?When this pandemic will be finally over,how will be our world change?

Ohhhhh, boy. No way to answer that without getting “political”.

Very short reply, then I’m out. Massive grab for power and control by The Authorities™. Red or blue, it makes zero difference. (9/11, school shootings, pandemic, any “crisis” will lead down the same road.)

Given the push for a “cashless society”, expect there to be demonisation of “dirty filthy cash”, and moves to ban it. Before, “only criminals insist on the privacy of cash”, but now, it’s a “public health issue”.

Expect less privacy of your personal medical records. Bad enough everything you do or have done, medically, ends up recorded at the MIB (Medical Information Bureau), now, more and more “agencies” will expect/demand access to everyone’s records.

Expect more control/tracking/facial-recognition/you-name-it to become more commonplace. How else are you going to track Corona Mary?

Ties to phones (as above), cars (plate-readers), internet usage, etc. will probably become more commonplace as well.

“When you want to beat a dog, you’ll find a stick”. Well, Hurricane Corona that’s sweeping the world is one Hell of a big convenient stick.

Go’head, hoot’n‘holler now, but mark this post. Check back in a year or two. Maybe less.

‘K, I’m out.

I’m interested in seeing the public blowback not just if/when measures like these are implemented but if events don’t follow the amazingly optimistic predictions of certain public officials. This is showing better than ever how understaffed/funded/developed medical infrastructure and logistics in the US are, and how sensitive the economy really is.

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Anyone else on here have a slight upper-respiratory infection?
Last Saturday I had a touch of dry/soar throat. By Sunday it was a runny nose. And since Tuesday it’s been mild congestion.
I cough a few times per day, but I think it’s still left over from the flu I had 3 weeks ago.
I just read this and it sounds similar, except I haven’t noticed a fever of any kind on me.
If this is what some mild cases of Covid are like, then there are SO many people not even noticing they have it because it doesn’t match what’s being reported as “mild”.
What I am saying is what-if there are 3 types of cases, not just 2? “Meek”, “Mild”, and “Severe”.

So how about you? Anyone have slight upper-respiratory issues they think are too meek to be Covid?

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Okay, scratch that.

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I edited, I meant to say upper-respiratory, not sinus, my bad.

But yea, whatever I have is a polite and friendly invader. I have no worries. I would take 2 weeks of this over the common cold/flu.

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vresto wrote:
But i have a question for everybody in this thread-what do you think?

I think that we will finally come to see the flu as the mass killer it is and that a lot of all that we have done and are doing because of this panic, will transfer over to decreasing our annual flu deaths.

After seeing so many comparisons between the flu and C-19, we as a people have learned that we have this ‘pandemic’ every year that kills 20,000 to 80,000 of us in the U.S. alone, and we weren’t even really paying attention to it.

I hope this fear mongering doesn’t make modern American popular culture even more timid and submissive to group think and low risk life than it currently is.

I am sure that for decades to come every household in America will now maintain a larger reserve of toilet paper.

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In the northern part of PA there was a nasty bug going around about a 4-6 weeks ago where they would get violent cough till you barf and explosive diarrhea but it only lasted like 24-36 hrs and then poof! and they felt great but didn’t have big appetite for a day of two because of the stomach trauma.

Never got it down here in southeast part of the state.

With all the trees blooming now the pollen is giving my the standard dry cough and some sneezing but it is normal spring stuff.
About a month ago the wife and I had some chills into sweat a couple nights but fought that off no problem.

I too have wondered if you can just get a whiff of this virus without the full schnog, can it be real mild and unknown that you had it?
Maybe so.

When people spout off how the flu kills x amount of people each season, well OK, but you are using data that has occurred over years.
No way to compare something like Covid-19 which is still processing.
Come back in a year and we can compare numbers.

All I do know is I can’t wait to get back on the road and do things that are normal.
Yard sales, flea markets, car shows, carnivals, day at the zoo, etc.
Visiting relatives and friends in person.

Here’s my new bumper sticker;
“Who knew Normal could feel so Good?”

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Joshk wrote:
Anyone else on here have a slight upper-respiratory infection?

So how about you? Anyone have slight upper-respiratory issues they think are too meek to be Covid?

I actually had a really strong cold / sore throat last week, lasted about 4 days. Don’t know what it was, but I’m fine now.

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A few years ago I had deviated septum/polyps/sinus RotoRooter service (never realized there were sinus cavities in the rear of my head). I was using Afrin (3squirts/per nostril up to 6 times daily) One of the questions on their form was “any color in your mucus?”
I thought it humorous…boogers are always yellow…not true, seems I had a longterm sinus infection I had discounted.
Getting that fixed ranks up there with my quitting smoking and laserblasting my Urine Canal as to best improvements in my quality of life that I can recommend to other oldpharts (77yesterday) out there. Stay healthy.

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Thought of something else that will happen when this all dies down,
The Covid Baby Boom, move over blizzard babies.

New popular baby name, Covy, Covie, Covee, and some variation with an umlaut.
You read it here first kids Smile

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Coronials.

 

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i had a bad flu few weeks ago, high fever for 2-3 days, little cough, no breathing issues, strong back pain, first few days when i coughed it felt like barb wire was pulled thru thorat,\chest, had some phlegm come out, went for an xray 5 days later, felt very weak, but lungs were clean, but still don’t feel 100% , at that time i did not have enough symptoms to be tested, doc never took a flu swab. maybe it was c19, may not, but no one in my family who was around me got sick, i did use caution thou, kept distance from them, i did take tamiflu, started the first day i had fever

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Perspective:

Population of U.S. = 327,200,000

Number of cases of CV-19 in U.S. as of this writing = 85,435

Percentage of U.S. population infected with CV-19 = 0.03%

 

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I think the next weeks will be gruesome. Actually, last year, WHO warned about a global pandemic with potential to kill 50-80 million people. And all worlds nations should start prepare. What we witness now is a foreboding catastrophe. Problem is that world leaders didn’t take WHO seriously.

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Number of cases of CV-19 in U.S. as of this writing = 85,435 (Reported and Known)

vs how many tested?

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