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Astrolux HL01 Too Throwy Solutions

Hello all and hope your day’s going fine. I have the HL01 but unfortunately there’s too much throw for my up close work. I just need a wall of light within a 10-20 feet radius.
I reached out to Boaz for some film already. Is there a reflector size I can get maybe that has more spill?

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The best thing would be a led with a bigger footprint i guess. like a luxeon on samsung lh type

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  I run diffuser film on virtually every headlamp I own .  the only headlamp I'd want throw on would be if I were riding a bike fast and wanted throw where I was looking . I'd run a light on the bars and a headlamp as well . But at this point I ride pretty slowly and wear a diffused Boruit D10 headlamp on medium loose around my neck .. it works just fine .Sometimes the paperboy passes me or little girls with streamers ... I struggle to keep up Smile

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You might be better of removing the reflector altogether if the mcpcb is screwed down, or you’ll have to replace it with some kind of tube between the MCPCB and lens

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You might be better of removing the reflector altogether if the mcpcb is screwed down, or you’ll have to replace it with some kind of tube between the MCPCB and lens

This! A “mule” has the most flood. Add some of Boaz’s DC Fix and you’re good to go.

I use my Zebralight H503c and H604c (both mules) constantly.

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What is this DC fix, and how may I aquire some?

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I’m gonna try both the film first and a Samsung led and reflector mod after they get here Smile .

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  1. ch1ir wrote:
    What is this DC fix, and how may I aquire some?

There’s more info heresmileDC Fix

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I like the diffuser film better than a “mule” because the mule has a (mostly, except for a small hotspot from the emitter) evenly lit cone of light, while the diffuser provides a hemisphere of light. With a reflector it creates a beam profile that is nicely transitioned.

It depends if you want uniform brightness (like a zoomie in wide mode), or if you want really wide spill for seeing where you’re walking/working/etc and might still want a little bit of hotspot/throw.

As Boaz mentioned above regarding my posts on the subject, I like #7 for my SP40 headlamp.

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Watermanchris wrote:
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You might be better of removing the reflector altogether if the mcpcb is screwed down, or you’ll have to replace it with some kind of tube between the MCPCB and lens

This! A “mule” has the most flood. Add some of Boaz’s DC Fix and you’re good to go.

I use my Zebralight H503c and H604c (both mules) constantly.

Someone just asked something similar a while back.

I’d rather stick an aspheric lens in there vs leaving it as a mule. A mule lets light go all over the place to the point where it’s so diffuse that lux is down in the toilet. Think of it as more of a 160° lantern than flashlight/headlight.

At least an aspheric lens would still give a nice even blanket of light, but it wouldn’t be spread almost 160° like a mule would.

If you’d still want light to be a bit more concentrated in the center, then heavily-diffused film would be the best option. I’ve got a WW Xeno E03 with DF on it, and it’s a nice warm blanket of light, too, but you can tell there’s a bit more light in the center that nicely and gradually fades as you go off-axis. That’s my go-to light around the house unless I really truly need firefly mode. (And diffusion film comes in various grades, from lightly to heavily diffused.)

That said, if you can pop out the ring and reflector, and it’s 20mm or so and can fit a 20mm TIR lens depthwise, that would let you select any spread you want, from 5° spot to 120° flood, for less’n a buk a lens.

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Ahh good now I have more choices… aspheric lens and “Mule” which is a flashlight without reflector :-). Boy looks like this flashlight will be my main Mod project :D.
Hmmm I was thinking a mule will definitely give spill and cover a broad area. Sorta like those 100 w Cob led’s that take 30-32v. I still want a little hotspot though. Then a choice of lenses looks like another route. Lots to keep me busy now! Smile

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Another vote for trying dc fix. In the meantime to get an idea of how diffuser film might look try Scotch tape with the matte finish (magic tape). I have not used dc fix yet but the scotch tape works pretty well. The scotch tape might reduce the output more though.

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EasyB wrote:
Another vote for trying dc fix. In the meantime to get an idea of how diffuser film might look try Scotch tape with the matte finish (magic tape). I have not used dc fix yet but the scotch tape works pretty well. The scotch tape might reduce the output more though.

I’m gonna experiment with Scotch tonight. Only thing I have in stock that I need now until the DC-fix gets here lol.

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Which dc fix did you buy and from who? I’m trying to get an idea of what I need, thanks

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Boaz wrote:
Phouton talking about diffuser film on a headlamp http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1625104#comment-1625104
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ch1ir wrote:
What is this DC fix, and how may I aquire some?

There’s more info heresmileDC Fix
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Which dc fix did you buy and from who? I’m trying to get an idea of what I need, thanks

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ch1ir wrote:
Which dc fix did you buy and from who? I'm trying to get an idea of what I need, thanks
I got it from fellow member, Boaz.
More info....

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Thanks, I’m at work and I will do “the reading up on” when I’m off.

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Hank33 wrote:
Hmmm I was thinking a mule will definitely give spill and cover a broad area. Sorta like those 100 w Cob led’s that take 30-32v. I still want a little hotspot though. Then a choice of lenses looks like another route. Lots to keep me busy now! Smile

Bug Boaz for a sample-pack. LOL

Forgot the #s, but regular (1?) is a coarse pattern, good if you want to blur the hotspot a bit but not completely trash its throw. I use that on a 2×D Luxpro to kill off the evil pissy beam from the G3, yet still let it “reach” a bit.

The other one (4? 7? whatever) is a finer grain, really diffuse, which is what I use on my E03. That should be the one that it sounds like you’d want. Nice and diffuse, but still a bit brighter in the center and fading as you go off-axis.

But still investigate and play with aspherics and TIRs. You might then hit on the Perfect Beam™ even if only at random.

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Hank33 wrote:
EasyB wrote:
Another vote for trying dc fix. In the meantime to get an idea of how diffuser film might look try Scotch tape with the matte finish (magic tape). I have not used dc fix yet but the scotch tape works pretty well. The scotch tape might reduce the output more though.

I’m gonna experiment with Scotch tonight. Only thing I have in stock that I need now until the DC-fix gets here lol.

If you have some wax paper in the house, try that as well.
Just mist the glass and apply the wax paper, trim with razor blade.
If you take the lens out just lay it over the paper and trim, then apply mist etc.

Kills the throw, milks up the tint and it’s dirt cheap, what’s not to love? Smile

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Hmmm I was thinking a mule will definitely give spill and cover a broad area. Sorta like those 100 w Cob led’s that take 30-32v. I still want a little hotspot though. Then a choice of lenses looks like another route. Lots to keep me busy now! Smile

Bug Boaz for a sample-pack. LOL

Forgot the #s, but regular (1?) is a coarse pattern, good if you want to blur the hotspot a bit but not completely trash its throw. I use that on a 2×D Luxpro to kill off the evil pissy beam from the G3, yet still let it “reach” a bit.

The other one (4? 7? whatever) is a finer grain, really diffuse, which is what I use on my E03. That should be the one that it sounds like you’d want. Nice and diffuse, but still a bit brighter in the center and fading as you go off-axis.

But still investigate and play with aspherics and TIRs. You might then hit on the Perfect Beam™ even if only at random.

Yeah I just asked for samples in my order :-). This way I can choose which films I might want to use for my other lights depending on situation. Sorta like getting dressed for the day.

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Hank33 wrote:
EasyB wrote:
Another vote for trying dc fix. In the meantime to get an idea of how diffuser film might look try Scotch tape with the matte finish (magic tape). I have not used dc fix yet but the scotch tape works pretty well. The scotch tape might reduce the output more though.

I’m gonna experiment with Scotch tonight. Only thing I have in stock that I need now until the DC-fix gets here lol.

If you have some wax paper in the house, try that as well.
Just mist the glass and apply the wax paper, trim with razor blade.
If you take the lens out just lay it over the paper and trim, then apply mist etc.

Kills the throw, milks up the tint and it’s dirt cheap, what’s not to love? Smile

Later,
Keith

Hey cool I’ll try the wax paper too! Maybe poke a few holes. Hmmm maybe some shaded colors!

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i replaced mine with TIR and im loving the smooth flood.

i used TIR 19mm diameter (same as convoy S2+ TIR) and sand the base about 4mm to match the reflector height.

the oring fit the TIR nicely then screw back without lens or you can fit in lense but need further sanding to match the height with lense.

Be careful not to supper tight screw bezel else u will damaged the AUX LED. just enought tight to water seal

TIR sand the bottom

kazzaaamm Smile

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Martin reported a big loss in lumens, what do you feel now it has the S2 TIR? Thanks for pic/description!

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Nicolicous wrote:
i replaced mine with TIR and im loving the smooth flood.

i used TIR 19mm diameter (same as convoy S2+ TIR) and sand the base about 4mm to match the reflector height.

Did you sand it at low rpm’s? I think sanding at higher speeds might melt the plastic somewhat.

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i dont have lumens measurement but im very sure the loss is negligible to your eyes.

yeah i sand low speed.

im very happy with the smooth flood and its more pleasing for close up work.

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Nice! gonna add “Sanding” to my ToDoList. Oh I got some Metal Polish and a Dremel too. I once polished the yellow out of an old car headlight assembly. Works quite well too. Smile

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Nicolicous wrote:
i dont have lumens measurement but im very sure the loss is negligible to your eyes.

yeah i sand low speed.

im very happy with the smooth flood and its more pleasing for close up work.

I did it once. Cheap TIR from BG and Ali caused nearly 30% loss, while Carclo just 7%. Didn’t know This seller then.

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Nicolicous wrote:
i dont have lumens measurement but im very sure the loss is negligible to your eyes.

yeah i sand low speed.

im very happy with the smooth flood and its more pleasing for close up work.

I did it once.

I did it once too… Big Smile

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I tried scotch tape and it smooth out the hot spot and spill area but still throwy compare to TIR.

Yajiamei optic is much better quality than convoy TIR . Clemence have proven with Armytek headlamps.

Likely this one will fit without any modification. The total height of reflector + lens is about the same as this TIR. Just be mindful im using SST20 LED

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