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14500/AA Host*Kaidomain*

I noticed Kaidomain just came out with a 14500 host! Wow how cool is that. Always wanted 14500 form factor to mod and/or play around with. Unfortunately, doesn’t look like Kai has 15mm pcb w/led or do they? Crying Where’s a good place with cheap shipping to get 15mm pcb w/led?? Do I have to shave/dremel a 17mm?

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Some 14.x mm ones, albeit aluminium:

3535
5050

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I got a whole assortment of blank boards in all sorts of sub-17mm sizes from… was it Illumn or LEDsupply? Eh, one or the other. Good stuff.

Can stuff your own LEDs on ‘em (219s, 351s, etc.).

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Liking the clean and simple design. Look forward to seeing more detailed pics and mods!

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This host is the Convoy T2/Manta Ray S1!
I shaved a 16mm board to use a Luxeon V on it!

Other leds will have smaller pcbs available, though!

[REVIEWS] ACEBEAM: H20 / TK16 /// AMUTORCH: S3 / S3 vs 219c / AM30 / AX1 / VG10 /// BLITZWOLF: BW-ET1 /// BRINYTE: T28 /// DQG: AA Slim Ti /// FIREFLIES: ROT66 GEN II /// HC-LIGHTS: SS AAA /// KLARUS: XT1C /// LIVARNOLUX: 314791 /// LUMINTOP: Tool AA V2.0 + Tool 25 /// NITEFOX: UT20 / ES10K / K3 /// ODEPRO: KL52 / B108 /// OLIGHT: M2R Warrior /// ON THE ROAD: M1 / i3 / M3 Pro /// ROVYVON: A2 + A5R / E300S / A8 /// SKILHUNT: M150 /// SOFIRN: SF14 + SP10A / SP32A / SP10B /// WUBEN: TO10R / E05 / T70 / E10 / TO50R / E19 /// XTAR: PB2 Charger ///

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Mountain Electronics has 10, 12, and 14 mm MCPCBs

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Interesting he doesn’t sell the host on his store Question

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Oh ok nice…14,17mm and will fit too. and as I read in an older post where they dremelled the 17 is another way. Yeah I haven’t come upon many sites that sell 14500 hosts so when I saw it today I was quite surprised. I dunno if I’d want to call the host a Manta ray though. It doesn’t look like a ray to me?

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Hey no 15mm boards anywhere.undecided  Ah well I guess I'll order a 14mm. But I'll probably hack the 17 to 15 before the 14 gets here.sealed Then I'll have an extra 14mm driver. Then the cycle starts over again.cool

Hmmm wonder why Kai mentions 15mm?

"Product Description:

- DIY Flashlight host for Cree XP (3535 LEDs). Design, Create, Build your favorite LED flashlight.

  • Suitable for 17mm driver board and 15mm x 1 LED PCB"

 

 

Secret stash?Like a skid of 15mm's back in the warehouse somewhere?

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If anyone needs 14500 with bigger MCPCB, take a look at the Jaxman E3: shelf design, 16mm MCPCB, 17mm driver, no glue (at least in my sample). Mine is rocking with 219b on MCPCB and driver from led4power.

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14500 with 21mm in diameter ? Wow that’s bulky Sad

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14500 with 21mm in diameter ? Wow that’s bulky Sad

LOL. That kept me away from them. There are 18650 lights just a few mm’s bigger than that.

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Sofirn SF14 > Convoy T2 > Jaxman E3 > Nitefox ES10K > Nitecore D10 > Amutorch S3 > Lumintop Tool AA V2.0 > Skilhunt M150 > DQG Slim Ti

Both the Convoy T2 and Jaxman E3 are tough and will take a beat as EDC lights.
They are not slim as a Tool AA, but if you want a resistant light, those are the way to go.

BTW, on the T2 there is a part in yhe edge of the shelf that protrudes so maybe only 14mm fit adequatly.

[REVIEWS] ACEBEAM: H20 / TK16 /// AMUTORCH: S3 / S3 vs 219c / AM30 / AX1 / VG10 /// BLITZWOLF: BW-ET1 /// BRINYTE: T28 /// DQG: AA Slim Ti /// FIREFLIES: ROT66 GEN II /// HC-LIGHTS: SS AAA /// KLARUS: XT1C /// LIVARNOLUX: 314791 /// LUMINTOP: Tool AA V2.0 + Tool 25 /// NITEFOX: UT20 / ES10K / K3 /// ODEPRO: KL52 / B108 /// OLIGHT: M2R Warrior /// ON THE ROAD: M1 / i3 / M3 Pro /// ROVYVON: A2 + A5R / E300S / A8 /// SKILHUNT: M150 /// SOFIRN: SF14 + SP10A / SP32A / SP10B /// WUBEN: TO10R / E05 / T70 / E10 / TO50R / E19 /// XTAR: PB2 Charger ///

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How do you find it compared to the D10? Also any good NiMH/14500 drivers with a low moonlight and L-M-H modes?

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hodor wrote:
How do you find it compared to the D10? Also any good NiMH/14500 drivers with a low moonlight and L-M-H modes?

I don’t use the D10 much, I use more the T2 (modded, using a led4power driver and Luxeon V).
About a driver with low ML, the Jaxman E3 has it.
It is more suited to be used with alkalines and Ni-MH but can also use 14500s.
I don’t remeber exactly but I guess there was a bit of PWM on that driver, though.
I turned the E3 into a triple with a led4power driver as well Big Smile

[REVIEWS] ACEBEAM: H20 / TK16 /// AMUTORCH: S3 / S3 vs 219c / AM30 / AX1 / VG10 /// BLITZWOLF: BW-ET1 /// BRINYTE: T28 /// DQG: AA Slim Ti /// FIREFLIES: ROT66 GEN II /// HC-LIGHTS: SS AAA /// KLARUS: XT1C /// LIVARNOLUX: 314791 /// LUMINTOP: Tool AA V2.0 + Tool 25 /// NITEFOX: UT20 / ES10K / K3 /// ODEPRO: KL52 / B108 /// OLIGHT: M2R Warrior /// ON THE ROAD: M1 / i3 / M3 Pro /// ROVYVON: A2 + A5R / E300S / A8 /// SKILHUNT: M150 /// SOFIRN: SF14 + SP10A / SP32A / SP10B /// WUBEN: TO10R / E05 / T70 / E10 / TO50R / E19 /// XTAR: PB2 Charger ///

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14500 with 21mm in diameter ? Wow that’s bulky Sad

I think part of the appeal would be the variety of drivers available on 17mm PCB’s.

That said, Lexel offers a variant of Texas Avenger on a 15mm board that I think will fit the Tool AA.

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X3 wrote:
14500 with 21mm in diameter ? Wow that’s bulky Sad

I think part of the appeal would be the variety of drivers available on 17mm PCB’s.

That said, Lexel offers a variant of Texas Avenger on a 15mm board that I think will fit the Tool AA.

They fit but have to be slightly filed to fit the pill.
I recently modded two Tool AA with those drivers!

[REVIEWS] ACEBEAM: H20 / TK16 /// AMUTORCH: S3 / S3 vs 219c / AM30 / AX1 / VG10 /// BLITZWOLF: BW-ET1 /// BRINYTE: T28 /// DQG: AA Slim Ti /// FIREFLIES: ROT66 GEN II /// HC-LIGHTS: SS AAA /// KLARUS: XT1C /// LIVARNOLUX: 314791 /// LUMINTOP: Tool AA V2.0 + Tool 25 /// NITEFOX: UT20 / ES10K / K3 /// ODEPRO: KL52 / B108 /// OLIGHT: M2R Warrior /// ON THE ROAD: M1 / i3 / M3 Pro /// ROVYVON: A2 + A5R / E300S / A8 /// SKILHUNT: M150 /// SOFIRN: SF14 + SP10A / SP32A / SP10B /// WUBEN: TO10R / E05 / T70 / E10 / TO50R / E19 /// XTAR: PB2 Charger ///

Tricks: 1 / 2 / 3 / 4 / 5 / 6 / 7 / 8 /// TIR Lenses: 1 / 2/// Others: Biscotti 3 + 1*7135 / Triple TIR w/ XP-G2 ///// My Collection ///// My Review's Blog (PT)

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X3 wrote:
14500 with 21mm in diameter ? Wow that’s bulky Sad

Same like the Xeno E03 (96×21). Thing is, it’s indestructible. LOL

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I was wondering if a Cree XM-L2 T6 led is compatible with a board for Cree XM-L T6? Reason I ask is Led is L2 and board only says L??

 

 

 



 

 

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I can’t answer your questio, about the XM-L vs XM-L2 size, but I can tell your that XM-L2 leds won’t fit perfectly under this host’s reflector.
XP-L2 and Luxeon V are tight fit, but XM-L2 is larger than the reflector hole.

[REVIEWS] ACEBEAM: H20 / TK16 /// AMUTORCH: S3 / S3 vs 219c / AM30 / AX1 / VG10 /// BLITZWOLF: BW-ET1 /// BRINYTE: T28 /// DQG: AA Slim Ti /// FIREFLIES: ROT66 GEN II /// HC-LIGHTS: SS AAA /// KLARUS: XT1C /// LIVARNOLUX: 314791 /// LUMINTOP: Tool AA V2.0 + Tool 25 /// NITEFOX: UT20 / ES10K / K3 /// ODEPRO: KL52 / B108 /// OLIGHT: M2R Warrior /// ON THE ROAD: M1 / i3 / M3 Pro /// ROVYVON: A2 + A5R / E300S / A8 /// SKILHUNT: M150 /// SOFIRN: SF14 + SP10A / SP32A / SP10B /// WUBEN: TO10R / E05 / T70 / E10 / TO50R / E19 /// XTAR: PB2 Charger ///

Tricks: 1 / 2 / 3 / 4 / 5 / 6 / 7 / 8 /// TIR Lenses: 1 / 2/// Others: Biscotti 3 + 1*7135 / Triple TIR w/ XP-G2 ///// My Collection ///// My Review's Blog (PT)

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MascaratumB wrote:
I can’t answer your questio, about the XM-L vs XM-L2 size, but I can tell your that XM-L2 leds won’t fit perfectly under this host’s reflector. XP-L2 and Luxeon V are tight fit, but XM-L2 is larger than the reflector hole.

Hey thanks for the tips! Smile So would it be ok if I modded the reflector hole bigger for the L2? Seems like it might fit but might have to enlarge hole myself?

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Hank33 wrote:
MascaratumB wrote:
I can’t answer your questio, about the XM-L vs XM-L2 size, but I can tell your that XM-L2 leds won’t fit perfectly under this host’s reflector. XP-L2 and Luxeon V are tight fit, but XM-L2 is larger than the reflector hole.

Hey thanks for the tips! Smile So would it be ok if I modded the reflector hole bigger for the L2? Seems like it might fit but might have to enlarge hole myself?


This is how the reflector looks like, and how it sits on XM-L2. You can probably mod it, but…I am not sure how larger it needs to become to sit well. Meaning, I am not sure if after modded it would sit/fit well.
The reflector is more suited for 3535 leds that 5050.

Comparison with XP-L2 and XP-G2 (notice that with XP-G2 you must use a gasket):

[REVIEWS] ACEBEAM: H20 / TK16 /// AMUTORCH: S3 / S3 vs 219c / AM30 / AX1 / VG10 /// BLITZWOLF: BW-ET1 /// BRINYTE: T28 /// DQG: AA Slim Ti /// FIREFLIES: ROT66 GEN II /// HC-LIGHTS: SS AAA /// KLARUS: XT1C /// LIVARNOLUX: 314791 /// LUMINTOP: Tool AA V2.0 + Tool 25 /// NITEFOX: UT20 / ES10K / K3 /// ODEPRO: KL52 / B108 /// OLIGHT: M2R Warrior /// ON THE ROAD: M1 / i3 / M3 Pro /// ROVYVON: A2 + A5R / E300S / A8 /// SKILHUNT: M150 /// SOFIRN: SF14 + SP10A / SP32A / SP10B /// WUBEN: TO10R / E05 / T70 / E10 / TO50R / E19 /// XTAR: PB2 Charger ///

Tricks: 1 / 2 / 3 / 4 / 5 / 6 / 7 / 8 /// TIR Lenses: 1 / 2/// Others: Biscotti 3 + 1*7135 / Triple TIR w/ XP-G2 ///// My Collection ///// My Review's Blog (PT)

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Yeah true and looks like L2 needs a bit of work. Okay will check out gaskets and 5050’s and maybe Luxeon too. Smile Btw, your Skillhunt in your photo looks real good with the blue glass ring and blue button ring. I like the contrast between the blue and then all black! Thumbs Up

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Silly Sorry all, I meant XP series led and not XM series led. Big Smile Must off been too excited when I started the thread and missed some details. At least I got info on variety of things from everyone before I caught my mistake. Smile

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Hank33 wrote:
Silly Sorry all, I meant XP series led and not XM series led. Big Smile Must off been too excited when I started the thread and missed some details. At least I got info on variety of things from everyone before I caught my mistake. Smile

XP-L HD and XP-L2 will probably give you the highest output (within the 3V CREE leds), but can generate some tint shift, even if this reflector is Orange Peel.
XP-L HI would be a good choice , you wouldn’t have problems with opening the reflector and they have almost none tint shift.

Yesterday I had trouble with the Luxeon on Convoy T2 and had to replace it. After thinking for a while I decided myself for a XP-L and I don’t regret (even if I ‘d prefer the Luxeon V or V2).

Hope this helps in some way!

[REVIEWS] ACEBEAM: H20 / TK16 /// AMUTORCH: S3 / S3 vs 219c / AM30 / AX1 / VG10 /// BLITZWOLF: BW-ET1 /// BRINYTE: T28 /// DQG: AA Slim Ti /// FIREFLIES: ROT66 GEN II /// HC-LIGHTS: SS AAA /// KLARUS: XT1C /// LIVARNOLUX: 314791 /// LUMINTOP: Tool AA V2.0 + Tool 25 /// NITEFOX: UT20 / ES10K / K3 /// ODEPRO: KL52 / B108 /// OLIGHT: M2R Warrior /// ON THE ROAD: M1 / i3 / M3 Pro /// ROVYVON: A2 + A5R / E300S / A8 /// SKILHUNT: M150 /// SOFIRN: SF14 + SP10A / SP32A / SP10B /// WUBEN: TO10R / E05 / T70 / E10 / TO50R / E19 /// XTAR: PB2 Charger ///

Tricks: 1 / 2 / 3 / 4 / 5 / 6 / 7 / 8 /// TIR Lenses: 1 / 2/// Others: Biscotti 3 + 1*7135 / Triple TIR w/ XP-G2 ///// My Collection ///// My Review's Blog (PT)

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This host kind of reminds me of the sofirn sf10, which is a very decent light for the money.
https://www.banggood.com/Sofirn-SF10-Portable-LED-Flashlight-14500.

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Hey that Sofirn S10 looks nice. It's got XPG2 so good to add to ones collection. I basically have Cree, SST, Nichia lights so a different tint and color would be a nice change. But how XPG2 look? rosy? lava? I just don't know.

As for the XP series, I decided on the SST20 2700k. I'm starting to dig the look. It'll be good for stuff at night in bed like getting up or looking for things etc... Gonna power it up with...

plus

because I like the tiny and efficient default mode

and finally add a film of DC-Fix like on my HL01

 

 

so the spill will be just right.

smile

 

 

 

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This host kind of reminds me of the sofirn sf10, which is a very decent light for the money. https://www.banggood.com/Sofirn-SF10-Portable-LED-Flashlight-14500.

Those are great lights. Still chunky but they work well on NiMh. Good kid lights. Mine put them on neck lanyards when they are out at night in the summer. Cheap enough that I don’t care if they lose them. Thumbs Up

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Unfortunately the Sofirn SF10 (and similar lights) has been unavailable for some months now! I do concur that it is a chunky resistant light Wink

Here’s how it looks compared to other AA lights:

Sofirn SF10 >>> Sofirn SF14 >>> Convoy T2 >>> Jaxman E3 >>> Lumintop Tool AA V2.0

Sofirn SF10 >>> Convoy T2

Convoy T2 vs Olight M1T Raider (CR123a/16340)
(just because being a small or slim battery won’t mean that the light will be slim or small, right? Wink )

[REVIEWS] ACEBEAM: H20 / TK16 /// AMUTORCH: S3 / S3 vs 219c / AM30 / AX1 / VG10 /// BLITZWOLF: BW-ET1 /// BRINYTE: T28 /// DQG: AA Slim Ti /// FIREFLIES: ROT66 GEN II /// HC-LIGHTS: SS AAA /// KLARUS: XT1C /// LIVARNOLUX: 314791 /// LUMINTOP: Tool AA V2.0 + Tool 25 /// NITEFOX: UT20 / ES10K / K3 /// ODEPRO: KL52 / B108 /// OLIGHT: M2R Warrior /// ON THE ROAD: M1 / i3 / M3 Pro /// ROVYVON: A2 + A5R / E300S / A8 /// SKILHUNT: M150 /// SOFIRN: SF14 + SP10A / SP32A / SP10B /// WUBEN: TO10R / E05 / T70 / E10 / TO50R / E19 /// XTAR: PB2 Charger ///

Tricks: 1 / 2 / 3 / 4 / 5 / 6 / 7 / 8 /// TIR Lenses: 1 / 2/// Others: Biscotti 3 + 1*7135 / Triple TIR w/ XP-G2 ///// My Collection ///// My Review's Blog (PT)

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As many have mentioned already, the host is a Convoy T2. After wasting an hour trying to sand down a 16mm copper core MCPCB (to shove an XH=P 50.2 in there Big Smile ) I contacted Simon, who was willing to send me 10 of the 15-ish mm MCPCBs he uses in the T2 for free if I bought anything else.

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