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Power bank that can be recharged fast.

I’m looking for advise on power bank that can be recharged quickly.
The power bank itself not the devices connected to it.

I have an EasyAcc 26800, which takes 2× 2A input for regarging itself.
That’s 20W input, I’m looking for a (way) faster solution.
And yeah, it would be great if that solution is availble for cheap on AliExpress Smile
(yep I’ve seen the Anker with 27W input)

20000 mAh and up is what I want, but it even crossed my mind to buy 2× 10000 mAh so the combined charging speed (A input) is higher.

Help me max out my 100W PD laptop charger Smile

Chargers: 1xBasen BD01 5/5, 1x Gyrfalcon All-88 4/5, LiitoKala: 3x100 3/5, 2x202 3/5, 1x402 3/5., MiBoxer C4-12 3/5.
Flashlights: DQG Tiny III 26650 5/5, FiTorch MR35 3/5, Haikelite SC26 HD 3/5, Lumintop Tool AA/AAA 4/5, Nitecore LA10, Sofirn C01 BLF 3200k/5600k 2/5, Zebralight H600Fc 3/5.
Powerbanks: EasyAcc 26800 mAh 3/5, Xtar PB2 4/5, Xtar PB2S 5/5
Waiting for: (DQG Tiny) 21700 EDCs.

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It would help to include the outputs you need

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I would prefer at least 2 ports of 2A each. Everything above that is a welcome bonus.

Chargers: 1xBasen BD01 5/5, 1x Gyrfalcon All-88 4/5, LiitoKala: 3x100 3/5, 2x202 3/5, 1x402 3/5., MiBoxer C4-12 3/5.
Flashlights: DQG Tiny III 26650 5/5, FiTorch MR35 3/5, Haikelite SC26 HD 3/5, Lumintop Tool AA/AAA 4/5, Nitecore LA10, Sofirn C01 BLF 3200k/5600k 2/5, Zebralight H600Fc 3/5.
Powerbanks: EasyAcc 26800 mAh 3/5, Xtar PB2 4/5, Xtar PB2S 5/5
Waiting for: (DQG Tiny) 21700 EDCs.

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Dubbed as the “World’s Fastest Recharging Battery,” the Yakuma 10,000mAh portable battery recharges ten times faster than other power banks on the market. In as fast as 30 minutes, it can pack up enough power to fully juice up your devices multiple times

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The Yukuma is seems to be out of stock on most shops.

More very fast chargers.
A complaint on Kickstarter IIRC, is that after a few uses it no longer chargers very fast.

https://beebom.com/best-graphene-power-banks/

Chargers: 1xBasen BD01 5/5, 1x Gyrfalcon All-88 4/5, LiitoKala: 3x100 3/5, 2x202 3/5, 1x402 3/5., MiBoxer C4-12 3/5.
Flashlights: DQG Tiny III 26650 5/5, FiTorch MR35 3/5, Haikelite SC26 HD 3/5, Lumintop Tool AA/AAA 4/5, Nitecore LA10, Sofirn C01 BLF 3200k/5600k 2/5, Zebralight H600Fc 3/5.
Powerbanks: EasyAcc 26800 mAh 3/5, Xtar PB2 4/5, Xtar PB2S 5/5
Waiting for: (DQG Tiny) 21700 EDCs.

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ZoomieFan wrote:
The Yukuma is seems to be out of stock on most shops.

More very fast chargers.
A complaint on Kickstarter IIRC, is that after a few uses it no longer chargers very fast.

https://beebom.com/best-graphene-power-banks/

https://www.realgrapheneusa.com/product-page/g-pro-10-000-mah-power-bank

Sale, under 60$.

Is that graphene going to be the next big thing or not?

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RC battery + usb adapter?
Or battery from 18v cordless tool with usb charger. Power tool chargers are equipped with fan and batteries have sort of shroud for air circulation, that’s the reason why they can provide 5-6amps charging without overheating.
Probably, power banks with serial connection and spare higher voltage ac-dc charger do exist, but I’ve never heard about them.

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there are many power banks with PD input 18-24W

But most likely you need a power bank with all cells in series and a proper balancing board for fast charging
Most power banks still got all cells parallel

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Lexel wrote:
there are many power banks with PD input 18-24W

But most likely you need a power bank with all cells in series and a proper balancing board for fast charging
Most power banks still got all cells parallel


I don’t want anything below 30W.

Chargers: 1xBasen BD01 5/5, 1x Gyrfalcon All-88 4/5, LiitoKala: 3x100 3/5, 2x202 3/5, 1x402 3/5., MiBoxer C4-12 3/5.
Flashlights: DQG Tiny III 26650 5/5, FiTorch MR35 3/5, Haikelite SC26 HD 3/5, Lumintop Tool AA/AAA 4/5, Nitecore LA10, Sofirn C01 BLF 3200k/5600k 2/5, Zebralight H600Fc 3/5.
Powerbanks: EasyAcc 26800 mAh 3/5, Xtar PB2 4/5, Xtar PB2S 5/5
Waiting for: (DQG Tiny) 21700 EDCs.

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kiriba-ru wrote:
RC battery + usb adapter? Or battery from 18v cordless tool with usb charger. Power tool chargers are equipped with fan and batteries have sort of shroud for air circulation, that’s the reason why they can provide 5-6amps charging without overheating. Probably, power banks with serial connection and spare higher voltage ac-dc charger do exist, but I’ve never heard about them.

Above 12 volts isn’t allowed on plane.

Chargers: 1xBasen BD01 5/5, 1x Gyrfalcon All-88 4/5, LiitoKala: 3x100 3/5, 2x202 3/5, 1x402 3/5., MiBoxer C4-12 3/5.
Flashlights: DQG Tiny III 26650 5/5, FiTorch MR35 3/5, Haikelite SC26 HD 3/5, Lumintop Tool AA/AAA 4/5, Nitecore LA10, Sofirn C01 BLF 3200k/5600k 2/5, Zebralight H600Fc 3/5.
Powerbanks: EasyAcc 26800 mAh 3/5, Xtar PB2 4/5, Xtar PB2S 5/5
Waiting for: (DQG Tiny) 21700 EDCs.

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MoreLumens wrote:
ZoomieFan wrote:
The Yukuma is seems to be out of stock on most shops.

More very fast chargers.
A complaint on Kickstarter IIRC, is that after a few uses it no longer chargers very fast.

https://beebom.com/best-graphene-power-banks/

https://www.realgrapheneusa.com/product-page/g-pro-10-000-mah-power-bank

Sale, under 60$.

Is that graphene going to be the next big thing or not?

Found a black Yukuma for e60 and two types of pink for e30

Yep, it’s going to be the next best thing. And before it is a lot of intermediate version I think.
Right now graphene power banks don’t exist because it’s very expensive. The graphene PBs we see now seem to have like 5% mixed in with old style chemistry.
So I wonder how fast pure graphene will be. And… what kind of charger can supply the explosion of energy to fill them Smile

Things may go fast, because Tesla and Panasonic are ‘playing’ with graphene. https://www.tweaktown.com/news/70627/flash-150w-usb-power-bank-powered-b...

Chargers: 1xBasen BD01 5/5, 1x Gyrfalcon All-88 4/5, LiitoKala: 3x100 3/5, 2x202 3/5, 1x402 3/5., MiBoxer C4-12 3/5.
Flashlights: DQG Tiny III 26650 5/5, FiTorch MR35 3/5, Haikelite SC26 HD 3/5, Lumintop Tool AA/AAA 4/5, Nitecore LA10, Sofirn C01 BLF 3200k/5600k 2/5, Zebralight H600Fc 3/5.
Powerbanks: EasyAcc 26800 mAh 3/5, Xtar PB2 4/5, Xtar PB2S 5/5
Waiting for: (DQG Tiny) 21700 EDCs.

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Wouldn’t very rapid charging powerbanks have notably shorter life cycles?

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d_t_a wrote:
Wouldn’t very rapid charging powerbanks have notably shorter life cycles?

Perhaps, but I don’t care Smile
I wonder how much shorter.
I also wonder if it’s the battery that dies first. My current PB is still good at charging, but 2 out of 4 charging points are physically dead.
The two recharging ports work fine but some cables fall out because the connector is wearing out.

BTW the graphene ones charge fast and have much longer (claimed) life.

Chargers: 1xBasen BD01 5/5, 1x Gyrfalcon All-88 4/5, LiitoKala: 3x100 3/5, 2x202 3/5, 1x402 3/5., MiBoxer C4-12 3/5.
Flashlights: DQG Tiny III 26650 5/5, FiTorch MR35 3/5, Haikelite SC26 HD 3/5, Lumintop Tool AA/AAA 4/5, Nitecore LA10, Sofirn C01 BLF 3200k/5600k 2/5, Zebralight H600Fc 3/5.
Powerbanks: EasyAcc 26800 mAh 3/5, Xtar PB2 4/5, Xtar PB2S 5/5
Waiting for: (DQG Tiny) 21700 EDCs.

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Chargers: 1xBasen BD01 5/5, 1x Gyrfalcon All-88 4/5, LiitoKala: 3x100 3/5, 2x202 3/5, 1x402 3/5., MiBoxer C4-12 3/5.
Flashlights: DQG Tiny III 26650 5/5, FiTorch MR35 3/5, Haikelite SC26 HD 3/5, Lumintop Tool AA/AAA 4/5, Nitecore LA10, Sofirn C01 BLF 3200k/5600k 2/5, Zebralight H600Fc 3/5.
Powerbanks: EasyAcc 26800 mAh 3/5, Xtar PB2 4/5, Xtar PB2S 5/5
Waiting for: (DQG Tiny) 21700 EDCs.

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ZoomieFan wrote:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000957265153.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist...

60 Watt input. Shame efficiency is only 78%.


Would you provide more info?
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What info are you looking for? All I know is what’s on that page, and I don’t know how accurate that is.

Anyway, that 30000mAh power bank has a 65 Watt output and more important in this thread, it recharges itself with 60 Watt, in about 3-4 hours.
I’m done waiting 6+ hours to recharge Smile

Chargers: 1xBasen BD01 5/5, 1x Gyrfalcon All-88 4/5, LiitoKala: 3x100 3/5, 2x202 3/5, 1x402 3/5., MiBoxer C4-12 3/5.
Flashlights: DQG Tiny III 26650 5/5, FiTorch MR35 3/5, Haikelite SC26 HD 3/5, Lumintop Tool AA/AAA 4/5, Nitecore LA10, Sofirn C01 BLF 3200k/5600k 2/5, Zebralight H600Fc 3/5.
Powerbanks: EasyAcc 26800 mAh 3/5, Xtar PB2 4/5, Xtar PB2S 5/5
Waiting for: (DQG Tiny) 21700 EDCs.

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ZoomieFan wrote:
What info are you looking for? All I know is what’s on that page, and I don’t know how accurate that is.

Anyway, that 30000mAh power bank has a 65 Watt output and more important in this thread, it recharges itself with 60 Watt, in about 3-4 hours.
I’m done waiting 6+ hours to recharge Smile


Because I have 2 & it fully charged within 4-4.5 hours & they have plenty of juice as well!!
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How many mAh they are?

Chargers: 1xBasen BD01 5/5, 1x Gyrfalcon All-88 4/5, LiitoKala: 3x100 3/5, 2x202 3/5, 1x402 3/5., MiBoxer C4-12 3/5.
Flashlights: DQG Tiny III 26650 5/5, FiTorch MR35 3/5, Haikelite SC26 HD 3/5, Lumintop Tool AA/AAA 4/5, Nitecore LA10, Sofirn C01 BLF 3200k/5600k 2/5, Zebralight H600Fc 3/5.
Powerbanks: EasyAcc 26800 mAh 3/5, Xtar PB2 4/5, Xtar PB2S 5/5
Waiting for: (DQG Tiny) 21700 EDCs.

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https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32885267714.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0...

Found another one. 20000 mAh, recharges itself, with 60W, in 1.6 hours.
I think the 1.6 hours is overly optimistic comparing with other power banks.
A picture shows it has 8 cells, which works out at 2500 mAh per 18650.
Replacing them with 3500 mAh ones would bump up capacity to 28000 mAh.
I wish there would be empty banks for sale with top notch input/output ports….

Chargers: 1xBasen BD01 5/5, 1x Gyrfalcon All-88 4/5, LiitoKala: 3x100 3/5, 2x202 3/5, 1x402 3/5., MiBoxer C4-12 3/5.
Flashlights: DQG Tiny III 26650 5/5, FiTorch MR35 3/5, Haikelite SC26 HD 3/5, Lumintop Tool AA/AAA 4/5, Nitecore LA10, Sofirn C01 BLF 3200k/5600k 2/5, Zebralight H600Fc 3/5.
Powerbanks: EasyAcc 26800 mAh 3/5, Xtar PB2 4/5, Xtar PB2S 5/5
Waiting for: (DQG Tiny) 21700 EDCs.

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They’re 3000 mah in fact I’m using the provided 100w cable plus 120w gan charger. It takes 3.5 hours per fully charge. If I use 65w gan charger it takes 4-4.5 hours!

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I assume you mean 30,000 instead of 3,000?
Can you please provide me with a link where it’s sold?
Brand + type etc will do too.

I’m very interested in a PB that self-charges with over 60 Watt, because 60 is the fastest I found sofar.

Chargers: 1xBasen BD01 5/5, 1x Gyrfalcon All-88 4/5, LiitoKala: 3x100 3/5, 2x202 3/5, 1x402 3/5., MiBoxer C4-12 3/5.
Flashlights: DQG Tiny III 26650 5/5, FiTorch MR35 3/5, Haikelite SC26 HD 3/5, Lumintop Tool AA/AAA 4/5, Nitecore LA10, Sofirn C01 BLF 3200k/5600k 2/5, Zebralight H600Fc 3/5.
Powerbanks: EasyAcc 26800 mAh 3/5, Xtar PB2 4/5, Xtar PB2S 5/5
Waiting for: (DQG Tiny) 21700 EDCs.

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Sorry for my typo. They are 30000 mah. I purchase white & black each 1.
Link: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000971433144.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0...
Charges: 120W https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001218252042.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0... 65W https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000237954145.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0...
If you are not rush try to wait until 11.11. Prices may drop tremendously.

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It’s strange the 100w charger charges faster than the 65w charger, because the power bank input is rated at 60w.
The only reason I can think of, is that the 65w charger delivers less that 60w. Or something goes wrong negotiating the power between the charger and PB.
Or less likely, that the input accepts over 60w.

Even found a 150w charger. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001411198892.html?spm=a2g0o.productl...

Chargers: 1xBasen BD01 5/5, 1x Gyrfalcon All-88 4/5, LiitoKala: 3x100 3/5, 2x202 3/5, 1x402 3/5., MiBoxer C4-12 3/5.
Flashlights: DQG Tiny III 26650 5/5, FiTorch MR35 3/5, Haikelite SC26 HD 3/5, Lumintop Tool AA/AAA 4/5, Nitecore LA10, Sofirn C01 BLF 3200k/5600k 2/5, Zebralight H600Fc 3/5.
Powerbanks: EasyAcc 26800 mAh 3/5, Xtar PB2 4/5, Xtar PB2S 5/5
Waiting for: (DQG Tiny) 21700 EDCs.

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I use 65w charger more than 120 & maybe I was using more than 2 outputs!

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That’s a good possibility.
Also a bit of problem selecting a good charger.
When I’m at home I don’t really care how many chargers are plugged in.
Right now I’m trying to find a lightweight, and fast option to recharge my stuff between flights.
A laptop takes up to 100 watt, so I was happy when I found the 120w charger you also posted.
It got even better with the 150 watt charger.
But once two outputs are used the max output drops greatly. Even if one port only supplies 1 watt.

Chargers: 1xBasen BD01 5/5, 1x Gyrfalcon All-88 4/5, LiitoKala: 3x100 3/5, 2x202 3/5, 1x402 3/5., MiBoxer C4-12 3/5.
Flashlights: DQG Tiny III 26650 5/5, FiTorch MR35 3/5, Haikelite SC26 HD 3/5, Lumintop Tool AA/AAA 4/5, Nitecore LA10, Sofirn C01 BLF 3200k/5600k 2/5, Zebralight H600Fc 3/5.
Powerbanks: EasyAcc 26800 mAh 3/5, Xtar PB2 4/5, Xtar PB2S 5/5
Waiting for: (DQG Tiny) 21700 EDCs.

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The fastest way to reload your power bank is to swap in freshly recharged cells, and put the depleted cells on a charger for next time.

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hank wrote:
The fastest way to reload your power bank is to swap in freshly recharged cells, and put the depleted cells on a charger for next time.

True, but I ran into a few problems with that (as an owner of both XTARs)
- Not so compact. (needs a seperate charger for speedy recharging.
- Not the latest PD or QC support.
- I’m looking at the 20000+ mAh range. That’s 8 cells or more. That’s getting close to the price of a PB for just the cells.

As a matter of fact I’m already following your suggestion.
4× 10000 mAh PB
1× 26000 mAh PB
8× 18650
1× 26650
1× 21700
1× 20700

Chargers: 1xBasen BD01 5/5, 1x Gyrfalcon All-88 4/5, LiitoKala: 3x100 3/5, 2x202 3/5, 1x402 3/5., MiBoxer C4-12 3/5.
Flashlights: DQG Tiny III 26650 5/5, FiTorch MR35 3/5, Haikelite SC26 HD 3/5, Lumintop Tool AA/AAA 4/5, Nitecore LA10, Sofirn C01 BLF 3200k/5600k 2/5, Zebralight H600Fc 3/5.
Powerbanks: EasyAcc 26800 mAh 3/5, Xtar PB2 4/5, Xtar PB2S 5/5
Waiting for: (DQG Tiny) 21700 EDCs.

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@Patu

The 20000 Xiaomi isn’t the fastest I’ve found but, it’s the fastest known brand.
The 10000 Xiaomi specs are vague. They recommend a 30W charger, but in the picture just below that they say 18W. 18W is very common for this capacity, 30W would be great.
Here it says 18w/4 hours. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32974071402.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0...

The first Anker on the list is bundled with a 60w charger, but I can’t find how many watts the PB actually uses. You wrote 45, but considering it has a 60w charger and the charging time is very comparable to the 60w Baseaus I have high hopes it’s 60w Smile
Pitty it has an Anker price tag, and a charger I don’t need. Nevertheless a great find.

The second Anker has great spec, not so great price, odd capacity.

The third Anker with it’s 213Wh isn’t an option. Bulky and only 100Wh is allowed on board a plane.

Chargers: 1xBasen BD01 5/5, 1x Gyrfalcon All-88 4/5, LiitoKala: 3x100 3/5, 2x202 3/5, 1x402 3/5., MiBoxer C4-12 3/5.
Flashlights: DQG Tiny III 26650 5/5, FiTorch MR35 3/5, Haikelite SC26 HD 3/5, Lumintop Tool AA/AAA 4/5, Nitecore LA10, Sofirn C01 BLF 3200k/5600k 2/5, Zebralight H600Fc 3/5.
Powerbanks: EasyAcc 26800 mAh 3/5, Xtar PB2 4/5, Xtar PB2S 5/5
Waiting for: (DQG Tiny) 21700 EDCs.

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That’s about the capacity of a regular 10000 mAh power bank.
Looks bulky, how does it recharge?

Chargers: 1xBasen BD01 5/5, 1x Gyrfalcon All-88 4/5, LiitoKala: 3x100 3/5, 2x202 3/5, 1x402 3/5., MiBoxer C4-12 3/5.
Flashlights: DQG Tiny III 26650 5/5, FiTorch MR35 3/5, Haikelite SC26 HD 3/5, Lumintop Tool AA/AAA 4/5, Nitecore LA10, Sofirn C01 BLF 3200k/5600k 2/5, Zebralight H600Fc 3/5.
Powerbanks: EasyAcc 26800 mAh 3/5, Xtar PB2 4/5, Xtar PB2S 5/5
Waiting for: (DQG Tiny) 21700 EDCs.

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