What would be your ideal mode configuration on a flashlight?

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What would be your ideal mode configuration on a flashlight?
BLF #1: Moonlight → Very Low → Low → Medium → Maximum
17% (15 votes)
BLF #2: Very Low → Low → Medium → Maximum
18% (16 votes)
BLF #3: Very Low → Maximum → Low → Medium
2% (2 votes)
BLF #4: Maximum → Medium → Low → Very Low
10% (9 votes)
BLF #5: Very Low → Medium → Maximum
11% (10 votes)
BLF #6: Low → Medium → Maximum
20% (18 votes)
BLF #7: Maximum → Medium → Very Low
13% (11 votes)
BLF #8: Only 1 Maximum mode
2% (2 votes)
DX #9: Strobe → SOS → OSO → dit-dit-dit → erratic → seisure
6% (5 votes)
Total votes: 88

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Key:

Moonlight0.2 lumen
Very Low1 lumen
Low6 lumens
Medium65 lumens
Maximum150+ lumens, varies per emitter

 

 

Well, we finally have at least one manufacturer (Mrlite) who is willing to offer custom modes the way we like them. I'd like to see what is the most popular around here.  My vote goes for BLF #1.

 

I strongly favor a mode arrangement that starts off on the lowest mode for the simple reason that I like to know that I can power on the light in an emergency situation with an almost dead battery.  If it starts off on high it could waste that initial charge of recuperated energy that a dead battery acquires after sitting, which is usually enough to fire up the low mode and keep it running for a while. But I understand that some of you almost always use the highest mode, in which case you might not want to click through 5 modes to get to it. A possible compromise would be BLF #3, which starts on the lowest mode and then alternates back and forth betwen lower and higher modes.

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When (good) memory is available, then this is very relative...

9 -> the modes of horror .... Wink

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Vectrex wrote:

When (good) memory is available then this is very relative...

8 -> the modes of horror .... Wink

Well hey, they call it a flashlight don't they? Wink And now you want a flashlight that doesn't flash??

OK, I think I know why they call it a "torch" in Europe.

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In Germany it is called "Taschenlampe" - meaning "pocket light" ... well my Solarfarce Extreme (sig) seems to differ.Wink

Is ramping totally unrealistic, BTW? There once was one dropin on DX. Or still is.

BTW where is my SIG... oh no, terrorists Surprised

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I could also go for Med - v. low - low - max if I had to as most of the time I'm likely to be using medium most of the time. I do prefer my modes to follow in order though so that each mode is more than the last, or less than the last. M L H can be annoying when you don't know which mode you are in. I would say stick to 3 modes if they are non-sequential, more than that will become confusing. MrLite's stock 9 settings are IMO a good example of how not to do it.

 

Or Option 5

 

But I would like it to start on a low level in case I don't want more - if I do, it is no big deal, if i don't I'm not blinded by the glare.

 

Moonlight is unlikely to be much use to me here - waaaay too much light pollution.

 

Just noticed, our siglines don't appear here.

 

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Vectrex wrote:

BTW where is my SIG... oh no, terrorists Surprised

Sorry for my terror-inducing forum. First seisure modes on a flashlight, then missing signatures! Looks like they don't show up on polls, apparently.

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sb56637 wrote:

Vectrex wrote:

BTW where is my SIG... oh no, terrorists Surprised

Sorry for my terror-inducing forum. First seisure modes on a flashlight, then missing signatures! Looks like they don't show up on polls, apparently.

 

The really terror-inducing thing is that there is probably someone out there who really, really wants option DX9 - a new option appeared - this one used to be 8

Cry

 

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I will have nightmares... what a cruel admin...  CPF was nothing compared to this ... Wink

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I'm with Don, by the way, I strongly prefer a programmable, ramping driver. But this poll is just for fixed modes, since a ramping driver requires too much additional engineering to make it feasible for a quick, inexpensive BLF custom mod.

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What's with all these complaints about missing signatures?  Tongue out

Good grief, Drupal is truly comprehensive, but mind-bogglingly modular sometimes. I seem to find some new configuration option every time I crack open the admin control panel.

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I want BLF #4 with low voltage detection... which already some of the cheapest lights have(was it the Skyray S-A1 ?)... we are talking about 'with mode memory' - right?

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Yep, in worst case there will be no mode memory.

What is this low voltage detection? It would only switch on in low mode in case of low voltage?

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Yep, in worst case there will be no mode memory.

What is this low voltage detection? It would only switch on in low mode in case of low voltage?

 

Some lights will flash, or drop modes when the battery is low. My personal choice would be some sort of flickering that told you it wanted more power. HDS (Now Ra) lights used to do something like that, but I am very, very rarely in the $100+ light market - like twice in 7 years.

 

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I think 3 modes is about the most I want, so I picked #5 (might have picked Low-Med-High if it was offered). But usually 2 modes would work fine because on my 3-mode lights I am always skipping over medium and just using High for distance and Low for close up. But with 2 modes, if you need to run the light for a while then maybe Max isn't what you want and Low is too low. So I think the perfect thing is programmable modes, at the very least a programmable Low. Ramping is okay, but I'd be pretty happy just picking from one of the 5 modes you provided and it would be easier to get what I want that way. Plus I would want memory (or some kind of dual switch that would let me pick Low or High when I am turning it on). I rarely see a light get the Low right and people seem all over the map on what is a good low. Even you couldn't seem to make up your mind between 3 different Lows.

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Don wrote:

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Yep, in worst case there will be no mode memory.

What is this low voltage detection? It would only switch on in low mode in case of low voltage?

 

Some lights will flash, or drop modes when the battery is low. My personal choice would be some sort of flickering that told you it wanted more power. HDS (Now Ra) lights used to do something like that, but I am very, very rarely in the $100+ light market - like twice in 7 years.

Ah yes, my Romisen RC-I3 has the low power flashing alert. Personally it drives me crazy. Smile

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And I want to have a high PWM frequency (>1kHz) ... I'm getting more and more annoyed at my Maratac AAA and Solarforce 3-mode  Medium/Low-modes. Or better current regulated. I am starting to use high modes, even if I don't need it, just to avoid those pseudo strobes.

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@brted:

I'm sort of basing the mode options on the Fenix modes. I can definitely see myself using all 3 of those low modes. Moonlight for an emergency, Very Low for a dark house at night, or Low for a typical night outdoors.

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I would like to vote for Low - Medium - Maximum bur did not get the option.

But Im satisfied that I and others are in the lead so far.

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I'm sort of basing the mode options on the Fenix modes. I can definitely see myself using all 3 of those low modes. Moonlight for an emergency, Very Low for a dark house at night, or Low for a typical night outdoors.

I agree, which is the problem with Lows: you need (okay, want) different levels for different things. That's why I'd just rather be able to set it (fairly easily). I think 4Sevens has the right idea with their tactical Quarks. I've come really, really close to getting one of their 2xCR123A neutral tint Quarks before deciding it wasn't worth $65 just for the UI when I'm pretty happy with my neutral 504B with a 3-mode NANJG driver. I still might do it. Wish they had an 18650 version (without buying the body tube separately), but could always buy a 17670 (or whatever they are).

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Ok, now there are options for:

Very Low → Medium → Maximum

and

Low → Medium → Maximum

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It was a very, very tough choice between DX #8 and BLF #6 but I finally went with #6. Wink  I love turning on my lights in max mode mainly for show-off purposes and because I just absolutely love super bright torches.  Cool

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Spacing wise what I would want is:

very low: 1 lumen

low: 15-20 lumen

medium-high: 80 lumen

high-turbo: blazing sun

This is assuming that the light puts out at the very least a true 150 lumens, preferably 200+. The inner kid in me would like at least one flashy mode even if its not entirely practical. Kids love flashy modes.

 

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Spacing wise what I would want is:

very low: 1 lumen

low: 15-20 lumen

medium-high: 80 lumen

high-turbo: blazing sun

This is assuming that the light puts out at the very least a true 150 lumens, preferably 200+. The inner kid in me would like at least one flashy mode even if its not entirely practical. Kids love flashy modes.

 

Easy enough to get - just about every light out there will do flashy modes. Some of them are even decent lights.

 

And a lot of them aren't.....

 

I probably have more than 60 lights that can do the disco bit and not one of them has ever been used for real in that mode.

 

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Strangely enough, I actually do have a practical use for strobe flashlights. Where I live, there are vicious dogs roaming loose all over the streets, especially at night. I have found a strobe light pointed at their eyes to be quite effective at staving them off without making a big ruckus.

But, as Don said above, lights with a strobe are a dime a dozen, and I already have...quite a few!  Smile  The rare thing is a light without strobes, so that's my current pastime here at BLF.

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I miss Med-->Low-->Max or Med-->Max-->Low options. Voted BLF #6.

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Very low = Moon mode 1-2Lumen 

Low = 20Lumen 

Med = 80Lumen 

Hi = Max 

 

In fact , I could live with , 20-80-Max for a 3 mode ...

Or even better still would be a light that just ramped ...  

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If only there where drivers available like the Nitecore D10 and D20 have. Ramping with shortcuts to low and max and also memory, that should suit everbody.

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BLF #2 is still winning by a very slim margin...

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Yeah, look what you did Mr. Admin... 3 mentally disordered people voted all-strobe... some Chinese manufacturers will read this poll and think: "There actually is a market for an all-strobe flashlight!"... it's all your fault, when the next ten flashlights on DX are all-strobe.... what started as a joke... it will haunt us .... I tell ya....

 

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Vectrex wrote:

Yeah, look what you did Mr. Admin... 3 mentally disordered people voted all-strobe... some Chinese manufacturers will read this poll and think: "There actually is a market for an all-strobe flashlight!"... it's all your fault, when the next ten flashlights on DX are all-strobe.... what started as a joke... it will haunt us .... I tell ya....

 

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No kidding! I'm halfway thinking about deleting those votes from the DX #9 option... Tongue out

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