Lumintop FW21 Pro Floodlight photo comparisons: Mateminco MT07,, AT40 mule, FW3A...C8+, NI40, SP36.

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Lumintop FW21 Pro Floodlight photo comparisons: Mateminco MT07,, AT40 mule, FW3A...C8+, NI40, SP36.

The other day I received my Lumintop FW21 Pro floodlight from Nealgadgets.
FW21 site: nealsgadgets
Mateminco site: Mateminco
It’s a 3 x xhp50.2, 21700 which I will be comparing to the Lumintop FW3A, Amutorch AT40 mule and lastly to the Mateminco MT07 (7 x SST20 4000k version) (Astrolux MF01 mini):


Up close look at the 3 x XHP50.2 leds:

The 21700 to 18650 adaptor:

The 21700 FW21 Pro beside the FW3a 18650:…and beside the C8+:

And now for some comparative beamshots:
FW3A and FW21 Pro:

Amutorch AT40 mule and FW21 Pro:

AT40 mule ————— FW21pro:

The Mateminco MT07 and the FW21 Pro:

Beamshot: MT07 ( 7 x SST20 4000k) vs. the extremely smooth FW21 Pro (3 x XHP50.2):

Edited by: tatasal on 06/16/2020 - 04:50
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wow nice pics tatasal.

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nice pics! LOL

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Very nice. Temptation is not what I needed right now.
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cabfrank wrote:
Very nice. Temptation is not what I needed right now. Happy 4000, Firelight.

Woah! … that’s a lot of posts!!!

Hadn’t even realized I hit 4000! Thanks!!! Party

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Keep chatting us up!

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Thanks gentlemen! Beer

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very nice shots, thanks!

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Neal’s own brand C8+ (1 x XHP50.2) ………….. FW21 (3 x XHP50.2):

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Nice to see the FW21 Pro in action.

How fast does it heat? How long before it impacts global warming?
Seriously curious to know how this light sustains so much power in such little body.

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patmurris wrote:
Nice to see the FW21 Pro in action.

How fast does it heat? How long before it impacts global warming?
Seriously curious to know how this light sustains so much power in such little body.

Normally, I almost always do not use turbo settings except when taking photos, as I don’t have practical use for it in my case (being a city-dweller).

However, now that I am asked on how fast does it heat, I just tested it: I double-clicked for Turbo, let it go until it substantially throttled down: 24.89 seconds.

The light’s head was noticeably very warm on the last 8 secs. and near unbearably hot to my hand.

Edit: I just knew that when this light is on Turbo mode with a fully-charged 30T, it gets hot very fast..maybe just after 5 seconds?

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tatasal wrote:
patmurris wrote:
Nice to see the FW21 Pro in action. How fast does it heat? How long before it impacts global warming? Seriously curious to know how this light sustains so much power in such little body.
Normally, I almost always do not use turbo settings except when taking photos, as I don't have practical use for it in my case (being a city-dweller). However, now that I am asked on how fast does it heat, I just tested it: I double-clicked for Turbo, let it go until it substantially throttled down: 24.89 seconds. The light's head was noticeably very warm on the last 8 secs. and near unbearably hot to my hand.

 

 Thank you for your comparative photos. I never run any of my lights past moderately warm. Anything after moderately warm, I throttle back and let them cool off. This, even though I am excited about lights that are capable of very brief maximum power for the size of the light and very brief maximum power for the size of the fuel supply. I only use the maximum, upper modes for one or two seconds to get a quick view of a large area illuminated brightly, then I throttle back down to normal mode. Again, thank you for your valuable comparison pics!

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tatasal wrote:
patmurris wrote:
Nice to see the FW21 Pro in action. How fast does it heat? How long before it impacts global warming? Seriously curious to know how this light sustains so much power in such little body.
Normally, I almost always do not use turbo settings except when taking photos, as I don’t have practical use for it in my case (being a city-dweller). However, now that I am asked on how fast does it heat, I just tested it: I double-clicked for Turbo, let it go until it substantially throttled down: 24.89 seconds. The light’s head was noticeably very warm on the last 8 secs. and near unbearably hot to my hand.

 


 Thank you for your comparative photos. I never run any of my lights past moderately warm. Anything after moderately warm, I throttle back and let them cool off. This, even though I am excited about lights that are capable of very brief maximum power for the size of the light and very brief maximum power for the size of the fuel supply. I only use the maximum, upper modes for one or two seconds to get a quick view of a large area illuminated brightly, then I throttle back down to normal mode. Again, thank you for your valuable comparison pics!

Yeah, we are on the same category bro. A few seconds of Turbo here and there is good enough for me…as majority of my lights are for collection and the pleasure of owning (who does not, btw)…though my EDC lights (Tool, Eagletac D25A) are the most used and abused ones!

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tatasal wrote:
patmurris wrote:
Nice to see the FW21 Pro in action.

How fast does it heat? How long before it impacts global warming?
Seriously curious to know how this light sustains so much power in such little body.

Normally, I almost always do not use turbo settings except when taking photos, as I don’t have practical use for it in my case (being a city-dweller).

However, now that I am asked on how fast does it heat, I just tested it: I double-clicked for Turbo, let it go until it substantially throttled down: 24.89 seconds.

The light’s head was noticeably very warm on the last 8 secs. and near unbearably hot to my hand.

Thanks. That was expected.
Glad it did not melt in your hand and you can still type on a keyboard. Wink

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Nightwatch Avaritia NA40 (3xSST20, 26650) ———— FW21Pro:


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Tomorrow night the Nightwatch NI40 with an Osram S2WP led will be pitted against the FW21 Pro.

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Hi!!
Thank you for the comparison. The truth is that they are very good quality images. A question. Could you tell me what battery did you use in the mateminco mt07?
I have that flashlight and with the Samsung 21700 40T gives me around 500 lumens more than with a normal 26650.
I ordered a lumintop fw21 pro and i would like to know if there is a difference between those flashlights.
Thank you!!

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Alvaro52021 wrote:
Hi!! Thank you for the comparison. The truth is that they are very good quality images. A question. Could you tell me what battery did you use in the mateminco mt07? I have that flashlight and with the Samsung 21700 40T gives me around 500 lumens more than with a normal 26650. I ordered a lumintop fw21 pro and i would like to know if there is a difference between those flashlights. Thank you!!

During the photo shoot, l used my Shockli IMR 30A 5500mAh 26650 cell for the MTO7.

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Whats the tint used in FW21 pro? strangely omitted everywhere….. 6500k?

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And tonight, the Nightwatch Stalker NI40 with the getting rare Osram S2WP led compared to the FW21 pro:


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Thanks for these beamshots, tatasal. Really nice!

It’s great to see the max output from the FW21 Pro. Too bad it steps down so quickly, as does the FW3A. These “pocket rockets” aren’t really meant for sustained turbo use. But for momentary use it’s impressive.

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xevious wrote:
Thanks for these beamshots, tatasal. Really nice!

It’s great to see the max output from the FW21 Pro. Too bad it steps down so quickly, as does the FW3A. These “pocket rockets” aren’t really meant for sustained turbo use. But for momentary use it’s impressive.

Yeah, not meant for sustained Turbo mode use..but just like having a car fitted with Nitrous oxide, more used on occasional burst of extreme power output. It’s better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it though.

I have lost count of the lights I presently own, and most of them are the present “hand-burners” when used in Turbo mode, but what I know is I have only one light (among the other one or two ever sold, IIRC) that can sustain its Turbo mode as long as the batteries sustain the load without throttling down to High, and that’s my Fenix TK70.

Edit: I think the other light I once owned that does not step-down from Turbo was the Acebeam K60, IIRC.

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Sofirn SP36 nw versus the FW21 Pro:


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The SP36 does not do so bad against the 21 Pro… and it has USB. The 21 is almost half it’s size though.
Do you have a EC03 on order?

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patmurris wrote:
The SP36 does not do so bad against the 21 Pro… and it has USB. The 21 is almost half it’s size though. Do you have a EC03 on order?

Yeah, size matters Silly , but in this case, also the weight. 3 × 18650 vs. 1 × 21700.

I don’t have an EC03 on order.

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can u do some test of the fw21 pro over a larger area distance like 100m or more, if possible tatasal ?

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mortuus wrote:
can u do some test of the fw21 pro over a larger area distance like 100m or more, if possible tatasal ?

I will try to find such place…I have relocated and the place where I live now is so well lighted.

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New place in the house for some beamshots: as per Google Earth, 28 meters/91.8 feet

FW3A —————————————————— FW21 Pro:

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If you could compare the mateminco mt07 and the fw21 un the same place, would be perfect!!

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when you can, no problem !!

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If you could compare the mateminco mt07 and the fw21 un the same place, would be perfect!!

Btw, the time-honored tradition here in BLF is, when in doubt, buy both! Beer

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