Got 2 FW4A today

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BabaOriley
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Got 2 FW4A today

Hadn’t bought a decent flashlight in 10+ years, so after finding the FW4A figured I’d give it a shot. So 2 FW4A, 16 batteries, and 2 Nitecore UM4 chargers, planning on giving one complete setup as a gift to someone. I first just ordered (8) Imren Gold 3500mAH 30A/15A, but started seeing bad reviews, so also ordered (8)Samsung 30Q 3000mAh 30A/15A. The lights took 10 days coming from China, so had all the batteries charged. When they arrived today, I checked them out, learned the OS etc., then decided if I was giving someone these batteries as a gift, I wouldn’t want them burning their house down or blowing up in their pocket. Thought I better do a stress test on them and see hope everything survived. Well, everything went well I think. I know this light has been out a while, and there’s probably all kinds of info out already, but figured maybe someone could use this info. Something to thank you guys for the good info, and what I hope will be a great light for me. It is pretty cool compared to what I was buying 10-15 years ago.

Since I had 2 FW4A, each configured exactly the same, I took one of each brand battery and stated them on turbo at the same time. Stood them on their tail, and just let the lights step down when they got hot. Apparently the FW4A will give as much light as it can while staying under the ceiling temp you set. I had them both set to 55c, and they both stepped down to what I think is the high (130) setting after 17 seconds. I just let them sit there and cook until I saw them step down again, which must have been the low voltage protection kicking in. I don’t have a thermometer, but I do think they stayed right around 55c. I could hold them in my had, but don’t think I’d want them in my pocket as hot as they were. I kept checking them and they stayed hot the whole time until stepping down for low voltage. Is this test result consistent with what you guys have been seeing?

Please let me know if you guys think these Imren 18650 would be unsafe to keep using in this light. I guess just because they survived one torture test doesn’t mean they won’t blow up on the 23rd charge. Should the Samsung hold up better down the road?

Imren Gold 3500mAh
Advertised Continuous Discharge Rating: 15A (found to be 10A by reviewers)
Advertised Pulse Discharge Rating: 30A

Samsung 30Q 3000mAh
Advertised Continuous Discharge Rating: 15A
Advertised Pulse Discharge Rating: 25A

Both calibrated at 25c
Both ceiling temp set to 55c
Both started at 25c

Runtime until automatic temperature stepdown from turbo/150 (max) to maybe 130?
Imren – 17 seconds
Samsung – 17 seconds

Runtime until low voltage protection stepdown
Imren – 2hrs 55min putting out 2.94v
Samsung – 2hrs 18min putting out 2.92v

Edited by: BabaOriley on 06/26/2020 - 05:33
mortuus
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U want unprotected batteries only like 30Q and similar. dont use protected as the protection circuit will just kick in and limit the power of this light. U can use unprotected with lower discharge like samsung 35E for more runtime.

Im not familiar with the Imren Gold cell, not sure what brand that is, better use samsung 30q imo.

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I been also itching to get some of those FW-series light. I thought that MF01 Mini would do it for me and fit into that multi-emitter light that I been looking for and its a great light and all, but still a little bit too big for EDC use.
Still not sure if I’m getting FW3A, EDC18 or FW4A. Maybe waiting for a while if there is still some new models coming along. Maybe 21700 with side switch would do the trick for me, but maybe that would also feel too big and I’m back at the FW3A or FW4A question.