Anyone here with a rooted Android, LineageOS, etc in 2020?

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Anyone here with a rooted Android, LineageOS, etc in 2020?

After a “final straw” incident with my smartphone configured with my previous best attempt at de-g00gling without rooting (something I’ve never done or researched before), I’ve made the jump and am making the transition to LineageOS 17.1 on my Moto G7. I’ve spent that last week obsessively researching the whole concept and available market of other devices that’ll be compatible with the OS and also meet my requirements in a handset. The Librem 5 is an awesome concept, but from what I’ve read, it’s far from a finished product. Ideally, I want a phone about the size of an iPhone 6/7/8/SE2 — I could rant for days about the size creep of phones — and that has a removable battery ≥3Ah, SD card slot, and is IPX6x rated. As reality goes with this kind of thing, out of the tens of thousands of phones, nothing meets all of these criteria.wp

While I work through setting up the G7 with apps from the F-Droid store and overall gain faith/familiarity with it, I’m using a Galaxy as my EDC. I have tested the G7 making calls, texts, connecting to BT and WIFI. Fingerprint reader also works and it even has hardware features that I’ve never known about before. I miss the Moto Actions and swype to text keyboard, but I’m working on solutions for that. Overall, I really like the UI so far. Running them side-by-side, it’s crazy how much Samsung does to destroy an otherwise clean and functional OS. YMMV

Anyway, I’m curious who here runs a non-stock OS on their phone and if y’all have any recommendations or thoughts/experiences. I’m guessing there’s a bit of overlap between these to circles..

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i rooted all of my phones from 2007-2013. Eventually it became a hassle, worrying if my phone was gonna bootloop in my pocket, or run hot and eat the battery.. always pulling my phone out of my pocket to some problem.

Was rely nice not having the Google, but between a VPN and running Firefox with ublock origin my experience is largely the same now.. they’ve made the creepware less intrusive. Modern phones can’t be rooted anymore anyway, and many services like Samsung pay or Microsoft outlook rely on an unmolested bootloader.

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So you are running [ROM][OFFICIAL][RIVER][NIGHTLIES] LineageOS 17.1, isn't it?

I am still on AospExtended 5.7, works super so if it ain't broke, don't fix it… Wink 

Once I get some cash in a nearby future I'll consider some other terminal (@#$% with AMOLED Thumbs Up displays).

The lack of removable battery terminals means you are forced to replace the battery yourself, or pay for such service. I can do it myself, but I must admit it requires quite some work and special tools.

Yes, I also @#$% with the size creep of phones as you say. But not only this, another problem is the retarded out of proportion displays of nowadays, with stupid aspect ratios which make them less useable imho. Too narrow when in portrait, too short when in landscape (I mostly use landscape, typing over Hacker's Keyboard).

Swipe? Nah. I also never enable auto-caps, suggestions or auto-correction, something which also reduces keyboard height and so I can see more screen content. I just type quickly with both thumbs (namely in full 5 row keyboard layout). Wink

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Turby3Pots wrote:
… Modern phones can't be rooted anymore anyway, and many services like Samsung pay or Microsoft outlook rely on an unmolested bootloader.

This is simply not true. I will always rely on free software. I always root and it's me who decides what I do with my device, not them. I am self-sovereign. Whoever believes otherwise can lick my arsehole anytime. LoL! 

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My primary phone is the property of my employer, so I haven’t rooted or modified firmware for years.

But an /e/OS phone looks kinda cool. A Fairphone looks awesome, but I’m in the US, so not yet.

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Why rooted? I get that it’s fun to have full control, but I’d rather set things up with adb or wtv, and then not have the device rooted when in daily use. Sure, you could choose which apps have root access, but still.. Using the minimum privilege level is the linux way. Anyhow, custom ROM is a separate subject.

I recently set up an older phone with /e/ OS, based on Lineage OS and adding microG as a substitute for Google Play Services. It’s quite usable. The preferred source of apps is F-Droid, but for a few needed apps from the Google Play Store, Aurora Store works nicely. Just note that support for (in-)app purchase license verification requires the Play Store.

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Similar to TurbyPots I used to root all my phones. Started in 2008 with the first Android HTC G1. Overclocking, undervolting, stripping back to bare minimum – it was a lot of fun for years. It was more to get rid of unwanted bloatware and also improve performance\capability as opposed to ‘deg00gling’.

When I got my first Pixel phone (moved away from Samsung) I stopped rooting and flashing custom everything because there was nothing I wanted to get rid of or change. Android had improved and the (ahem) makers of the Pixel deliver the OS in it’s purest form. Talk about walking into the lions den.

Like many things, it can easily become something of an obsession. XDA and BLF are interchangable.

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Yesterday updated my old Samsung S5 from 16 to 17.1. Everything works fine. Phone is rooted. Using Lineage about 3years newer had any problems.
First of all get recovery TWRP > LinageOS+ OpenGapps micro + Root(Magisk)+ whatever you want.

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Back in the nexus days I used to flash ROMs and tweak nearly everything all the time. Nowadays on stock android (especially on my pixel 4a where the software is brilliant) I don’t feel I need to. The only reason I would is to get a system wide ad block, limit charging to 85% and maybe a few magisk modules. It was also a bit of a pain with my previous phones as some couldn’t have their bootloader unlocked (Xperia XA / M4) or kept messing up (Moto G5S plus). I had a ton of software issues including my IMEI being deleted from the device unless I used one specific android version (so no ROMs / software updates) also custom recoveries aren’t really a thing anymore and flashing with a PC is a pain.

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I have a rooted Xiaomi Mi 9 SE with CrDroid.
Small size, excellent Camera for less than 300€.

My current favourite: Fireflies E07 V2, XPL Hi V2 5A 4000K Neutral White, Matte Black

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Why rooted? …

Because my smartphone is not someone else's playground, and it is my right to fully manage it at my will.

Certain things like using a custom user agent with the G00gl€ chrome browser is still only possible with a rooted system. And although certain others are catching up such browser is still the best overall, imho.

Also, in the past I've seen certain applications go bad or rogue with updates. This is, losing useful features or whatever other mishaps. Applications like that get frozen in time, or just the great kick in the arse. 

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I stop rooting phones when www.blokada.org wet out. But I still have rooted tablet to cheat in android games Smile
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I stop rooting phones when www.blokada.org wet out. …

I use AdAway, something you may be using already btw.

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Barkuti wrote:

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I stop rooting phones when www.blokada.org wet out. …

I use AdAway, something you may be using already btw.

It needs root afaik.
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I used to root my phones, until I was unable to install banking apps. I’ve heard this might be different now, but since have gone over to Nokia with Android one. I was pleasantly suprised to discover that you can uninstall most of the apps previously baked in, including most of the google apps.

Probably still not fully in control, but good enough for me now.

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Barkuti wrote:

So you are running [ROM][OFFICIAL][RIVER][NIGHTLIES] LineageOS 17.1, isn’t it? ….

The lack of removable battery terminals means you are forced to replace the battery yourself, or pay for such service. I can do it myself, but I must admit it requires quite some work and special tools.

Yes, I also @#$% with the size creep of phones as you say. But not only this, another problem is the retarded out of proportion displays of nowadays, with stupid aspect ratios which make them less useable imho….>

Quadrupel wrote:
Yesterday updated my old Samsung S5 from 16 to 17.1. Everything works fine. Phone is rooted. Using Lineage about 3years newer had any problems. First of all get recovery TWRP > LinageOS+ OpenGapps micro + Root(Magisk)+ whatever you want.

Yes, that’s exactly the ROM I’m running. No Magisk yet and also haven’t reinstalled TWRP since the reflash. Only extra mod I did was restoring a Moto symbol on startup in place of the warning screen. I did that through ADB and a Win10 pc. Funny enough the Galaxy S5 Neo (version SM-G903W) is a phone on my list to try and acquire. How is it performing?

/e/ is very interesting to me as they have bundled and streamlined LineageOS and microG. They have a beta build available for my G7 (river), so I’m likely going to give that a test run as well. A Galaxy S8/S9 running /e/ is something I’m considering.. but

The kicker for me in all of this is having a non removable battery. No matter what OS I’m running, there is integrated hardware with proprietary drivers running the device. Nobody seems to know what exactly goes on ‘down-there’ and quite frankly, I don’t trust it. I want to reserve the right to remove power from the device at will. I don’t know when/how it has become acceptable for either corporate or gov entities to have such information and access to a wide open backdoor into our lives. Whether it’s my location, interests, conversations, or sleep cycles.. Truly not information that anybody needs nor shall have. efff that.

In true BLF spirit though, I have some ideas on this. Going to give it a try and see what happens. But I’m thinking of using the space and port provided by 3.5mm jack to actually route one of the battery poles through, and create a “kill-pin”.

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The problem with 3th part OS is that it have no proper camera driver and camera cant focus in dark like with original driver.

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JaredM wrote:
The kicker for me in all of this is having a non removable battery.

I’m really hoping the modular Fairphone gets to the U.S. soon. It’s probably not as sleek and slim as the latest and greatest blackboxes, but I would buy one for sure.

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… Nobody seems to know what exactly goes on ‘down-there’ and quite frankly, I don’t trust it. I want to reserve the right to remove power from the device at will. I don’t know when/how it has become acceptable for either corporate or gov entities to have such information and access to a wide open backdoor into our lives. Whether it’s my location, interests, conversations, or sleep cycles.. Truly not information that anybody needs nor shall have. efff that.

I can hear you man. While it may not be the same, how about a faraday bag?

A faraday bag effectively blocks all incoming or outgoing radiation from the device.

Other than this, as they are to cut-off power from a device's battery it would be necessary to install a (MOSFET) switch in its connector or somewhere else, or resort to somehow directly switching off the MOSFETs inside the inbuilt BMS in the battery. Which makes me think that a short circuit would attain that, for example, but needs to be well implemented. So a solution may be possible, but certainly a lot of hassle as things are now.

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Quadrupel wrote:
The  problem with 3th part OS is that it have no proper camera driver and camera  cant focus  in dark like with original driver.

I have never experienced a problem even if using a "3rd party" OS. My experience is in fact awesome, with the 3rd party ROMs I've used being a lot more powerful than their stock counterparts.

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Good idea with artificially tripping the cells inbuilt protection. I’ll need to study the circuits and micro controllers to see if that’s a practical way of doing it.

I already ordered a faraday bag yesterday. Going to put it to the test when I get it. This is my best option for the time being until I can get a device with a hardware kill switch.

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look at dns66 for hosts functionality without root.
can be found on fdroid.
going to put lineageos on a note 9 soon.

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sp5it wrote:
Barkuti wrote:

sp5it wrote:
I stop rooting phones when www.blokada.org wet out. …

I use AdAway, something you may be using already btw.

It needs root afaik.
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I’ve read but cannot confirm that recent versions of AdAway have added a non-root VPN mode similar to Blokada. Of course if you have root then you can just use it to modify the HOSTS file as usual.

As for root and custom ROMs I do root my phone’s but I don’t run custom ROMs. I like root for being able to backup apps and their data. It is very handy for apps that don’t have their own backup solution. Also it makes restoring my phone a bit faster since I don’t need to waste time redownloading all my apps.

Now my reason for not using custom ROMs is as follows.

1. My current phone isn’t very popular for ROMs. I have a Pixel 2 and LineageOS only recently released official builds for it. Many custom ROMs have a limited number of devices they support so I find myself with slim pickings.

2. I find custom ROMs seem to have less and less exciting features with each new version of Android. I am fairly content with Google’s vanilla version of Android.

3. Whenever a new Android OS version is released, I am left waiting months waiting for the custom ROMs to switch to the new version. And once available, we are that much closer to the next Android version and the cycle repeats.

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1. My current phone isn't very popular for ROMs. I have a Pixel 2 and LineageOS only recently released official builds for it. Many custom ROMs have a limited number of devices they support so I find myself with slim pickings.

I always carefully pick what is going to be my next smartphone. I never buy a smartphone who was launched very recently, this way I can read plenty of reviews and also check the availability of custom ROMs at XDA Forums.

Not buying the latest also allows me to buy a high end smartphone for affordable price. Also, high end mobile SoCs are more powerful than mid range stuff even if a couple generations older, as far as I know.

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2. I find custom ROMs seem to have less and less exciting features with each new version of Android. I am fairly content with Google's vanilla version of Android.

Seriously? In my experience, a good custom ROM surpasses anything stock. They are meant to be this way.

For example, my AEX ROM features things like an amazing task switcher, without the need to install any other software:

 

 

Comparatively speaking, task switchers like the one which first appeared in Android Lollipop suck big time, imho.

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3. Whenever a new Android OS version is released, I am left waiting months waiting for the custom ROMs to switch to the new version. And once available, we are that much closer to the next Android version and the cycle repeats.

So do you need to be on the latest version? I don't. I'm still on Android 8.1, works great. No hurry. 

Old and bad are different things. A new version is not always better, I've seen quite a few new versions of whatever software turn into downgraded crap. It's me who decides when to upgrade, to the point of uninstalling certain applications because they upgraded themselves just because fLIck thee.

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I have Lineage and don’t intend to ever switch to closed source OS. From my experience they tend to be riddled with things that are features for the manufacturers but misfeatures for the users.

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I used to root my phones & load the latest ROM from CyanogenMod then LineageOS etc but as I got older I got a bit lazy & now just have a Motorola phone, which has a pretty stock version of Android 10 with only one or two Motorola Apps & does all I need.

Motorola will probably never push out Android 11 to my phone (G8 plus) but 10 seems to be OK & I’m happy with it.

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I have rooted every phone I owned until this one (OnePlus 8T). I will not purchase a phone from the carrier or any phone which cannot be unlocked and modded.

My new phone (for a couple of weeks now) is pretty excellent out of the box, so I am trying out root alternative methods to get what I want from it. Most of what I want is available without root, and it doesn’t break Widevine so I can watch videos in “Full HD”. I may root it eventually if I run across anything that I can’t live without, but OTA updates are frequent from OnePlus and they keep it pretty clean.

When I do root, I am a big fan of Magisk. Practicing the principle of least privilege, I only grant root to apps I trust and only when they need it (not full time). Magisk hides from the “Karen” apps that like to complain, so typically no real issues there.

Custom ROMs can be cool, but as of my OnePlus 6T I have been pretty happy with the stock Oxygen OS (very slightly tweaked Android). Previously I used Lineage, Resurrection Remix, or even AOSP depending on the day (these days it is really easy to download a new one and flash on the go with TWRP or whatever).

Never tried to go completely Google free. They are going to track me everywhere anyway, so I just do what I can to limit the really invasive stuff.

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I rooted all my phones up to the galaxy S5. When I replace that with an S7 I found I really didnt need to, although I kinda wanted to.

I main reasons for rooting:

Backup data to sd (Titanium Backup required it)
move all apps to sd (some could move, but early OS didnt allow much)
get rid of bloatware/apps I didnt want
ran better

If I didn’t move stuff to the SD I kept hitting memory limits.

By the time the S7 came out, they added more memory to the phone, and a “built in” sd card that acted as additional memory
Now I have a S10, I can move everything to SD w/o root, no issues with running out of memory.

That said, I don’t use my phone as a camera to document my life like some people, but I’m old.
I heard someone say that you can tell how old someone is by how far away their cell phone is from them when they are at home.
Mines 3 rooms away some times. I still have a land line.

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Barkuti wrote:
I always carefully pick what is going to be my next smartphone.

I do too and since I plan to root, I get Pixels since I know they can be bootloader unlocked even when new.

Barkuti wrote:
For example, my AEX ROM features things like an amazing task switcher, without the need to install any other software

That is pretty cool I must admit.

Barkuti wrote:
So do you need to be on the latest version?

I need it as much as I need a new flashlight Wink

While I could use all my apps on Android 9, 8, 7, or whatever, I enjoy having the latest version. It is another reason I like Pixel phones, I get updates to the latest Android and I get them rather quickly.