Review: ThruNite TN10 & TN11 (XM-L | multi CR123 / 18650's)

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Review: ThruNite TN10 & TN11 (XM-L | multi CR123 / 18650's)


When you think of a list of the top things that can induce a smile, a "click" is probably nowhere to be found on the vast majority of most people's list. However, flashaholics are not most people and for a lot of us, an acquisition can either immediately be justified or regretted after that first click. Wondering which camp I fell into after trying out ThruNite's latest releases? Read on to find out.


MFG SPECS




PACKAGING
The TN10 & TN11 arrived encased in plastic shells in their respective cardboard boxes that didn't feature a cut-out window but rather a picture of the light:




Supplied with each light were:
- Holster
- Lanyard
- Removable SS clip
- 1pc. 2xCR123 anti-rattle battery sleeve
- 3 x o-ring's
- User manual


1 x extension tube (CR123 sized) is included with the TN11




DESIGN / FEATURES
Apart from perhaps the very end of the tail caps and the style of the bezels, the lights ThruNite offers do not really share design elements. Each line has their own
unique look, however where the TN line differs in particular is that there is no knurling whatsoever anywhere on the lights. Instead, fluting (that have rather sharp edges!) features prominently on all 3 sections of each light (head, body, tailcap):


They could've dulled the edges by chamfering it but then it would've left the light completely bereft of any aid in gripping it when twisting any of the sections. However, given that the edges are so sharp, they act as scrapers and tend to collect material from whatever it comes in contact with, be that dead skin from calluses, lint from pockets, cloth gloves, etc.

Overall, given the lack of texturing, it's a minimalistic design with just some cooling fins after the head and in the case of the TN11 an anti-roll ring (albeit not a very good one) just ahead of the fins starring as the primary design elements.


Nice and basic with nothing superfluous and I quite like it:


These lights share identical battery tubes and tailcaps (with the only differentiation being the respective model & serial # etching)


NEW 10/8: The only differentiation
between the two lights actually is their integrated heads in which case the TN10 is standard sized at 1.38in (35mm) at the edge of the bezel vs. the turbo head of the TN11 @ 1.61in (41mm). Here is a pic of the heads swapped just to illustrate the point:
END 10/8

The crenellated stainless steel bezels (which feature square-cut threads) were easily removed without any tools; each securing an AR coated lens:


The The LED's on each were perfectly centered as they are installed in a black plastic holder that inserts into ultra smooth reflectors (I had to really struggle to notice any ripples with my naked eye):

(L: TN10 | R: TN11)

I wonder why more manufacturers don't implement this type of centering method as I feel it leaves no room for error.


There is a spring at each end of the light,with the one in the tailend capped:


The shortest and longest 18650's in my collection were easily accomodated without any issues:

As you can see, there are square cut threads that are anodized thus allowing lock out via just over 1/8th of a turn of the tailcap.

Each light was supplied with an anti-rattle battery sleeve for use with 2 x 123 sized batteries:

It does its job very well as I was not able to induce any rattles whatsoever with it installed.

There is a removable tactial ring on each light that has an attachment point for the lanyard:



I managed to incur some nicks to the ano during my photo shoot. While the tailcaps feature openings, they're really not large enough to accomodate the hook for the lanyard, thus a mini "keychain" ring is also supplied:


The supplied holster is pretty nice and will allow the light to be used w/a single or dual extension tubes:

Given it was designed to fit both lights, there will be a slight gap with the TN10:


I had a heckuva time trying to get the SS clip on and failed miserably and incurring some nicks to the finish:

(kudos to infinus for succeeding)



SIZE
Owing to the turbohead, the TN11 is on the larger end of my 1x18650 lights whereas the TN10 runs midpack:

L to R: RediLast 3100 | Sunwayman T20C | XENO G10v2 | ThruNite TN10 | Fenix TK21 U2 | ThruNite TN11 | Dereelight DBS V2

In 3 x 123 configuration:

L to R: RediLast 3100 | ThruNite TN10 | ThruNite TN11 | Klarus XT20 | SureFire M3LT

And finally in 2x18650 configuration:


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FIT & FINISH

Over all fit and finish is excellent although straight from the factory, there are some minor quibbles I have, such as: residual dust around the fluting in which case some had very minute areas where the ano was missing:


There were also some minor particles on the reflector and on the TN11, a slightly spongy feel when twisting the head.

These items were easily sorted with a wipe down and touch up with a sharpie on the flutings, light careful blast of air on the reflector. As for the spongy feel, it turns out that the the TN11 had a thicker o-ring installed at the head and from the 3 spares supplied, one was thicker than the others. I have an inquiry to ThruNite re: this but once I swapped out the thicker o-ring w/the thinner one, it gave the head a nice crisp feel again. I'm sure the thicker o-ring offers slightly better water resistance but given I don't plan on using these lights in wet conditions I prefer the crisp feel which eases the programming of the loose mode tremendously.

The tailcap switch clicks authoratatively and the rubber boot provides just enough resilience which is just the way I like it as I hate mushy tailcaps.



UI
The UI is straightforward in that there are two modes depending on the state of the head; a fixed (tightened) and a preset (loosened). The fixed mode always comes on in max whereas the preset can be programmed as follows:

With head loosened and light on:
- tighten / loosen / tighten / loosen quickly in < 2 seconds to enter programming mode
- depending on whatever mode the program mode is currently set at, it'll come back to firefly mode
- next, it'll flash 3 times and after about two seconds or so, it'll enter ramping mode from 5%-89%
- then it'll flash twice and enter slow strobe and then fast strobe

At any point during programming simply tighten/loosen the head quickly (< .5 seconds) at the desired setting to memorize it and that will be the preset (loosened) mode until reporgrammed. The preset is retained through battery changes. If at any time, the light is shut off during programming mode, it'll default to the last programmed setting.

Given all the twisting of the head that's required, this is again why I went with the thinner o-ring.



RUNTIME
The relevant battery stats are provided above each runtime graph along with: - Voltage of the battery at the start and end of the test
- Current draw as taken right before the test
- Actual runtime (first in HR and then in M so in the case of the AW2600, read this as 2.1 Hrs OR 128 Min) until the light shut off for 2x18650 testing. For 1x18650 tests, it was total time until the output dropped below 50% of initial output that was measured 30 seconds after initiating the test.
- For testing on High (in which case a fan was used), temperature: ambient, the head at start and the max it reached

ThruNite supplied an additional extension tube so I could conduct runtime testing using 2 x 18650's in which case the stats are shown first.


TN10


Axis: X = Time in Min and Y = Relative Output


TN11


Axis: X = Time in Min and Y = Relative Output

ThruNite bases their runtime on the output after it drops below 50% (more agressive than ANSI). This is using one 2600mAh 18650 battery in which case I was able to best the claim (using an older AW2600 that has been through a bit of deep cycles) with the TN11 (1.3hrs vs. 1.2hrs) but just fell short w/the TN10 (1.3hrs vs. 1.5hrs). I may eventually get some RediLast 2600 batteries for testing in which case I'll post the numbers thereafter.

However, to put things into perspective, considering how hard these lights are driven, the > 1 hr runtime is a plus.



TINT & BEAM PROFILE
Overall the tint is on the greenish side but nothing too bad:

(L: TN10 | R: TN11)
Owing to the larger and deeper reflector, the TN11 has a more defined hotspot and can throw further whereas the TN10 is the floodier of the two (as can be seen in the beamshots sections).



INDOOR BEAMSHOTS
All shots on Canon S3 IS, ISO 80, f2.7 using WB that yields the closest to what my eyes see.
Left = 1/13" | Right = 1/80". Distance to door is 5m (16.4ft). Click on pics to load full size.


TN10 1x18650

TN10 2x18650


TN11 1x18650

TN11 2x18650

Please see indoor comparo beamshots vs. many other lights here.



OUTDOOR BEAMSHOTS
All shots on Canon S3 IS, ISO 80 @ f2.7 using Daylight WB but the tint is actually not as green as depicted here. Distance to the white wall is 21.3 ft (6.5m) and to the steps (at the forefront of the bottom of the pic is 12ft).

Shutter speeds: left = 1/4" | center = 1/20" | right = 1/80". Click on pics to load full size.

TN10


TN11


Please see outdoor comparo beamshots for TN10/TN11 (and 22 other lights) here.

NEW 10/11
LONG DISTANCE OUTDOOR BEAMSHOTS
As promised, here are the long distance outdoors shots. For full details and comparo vs. other lights, see here.

ThruNite TN10 (1x18650)


ThruNite TN11 (1x18650)




CONCLUSION
This is my first exposure to ThruNite lights and it left a very positive impression on me. Again, my only nitpick would be around the state of the lights as they came straight out of the factory. There's also that matter about the nicking I gave to the ano. I felt I was pretty careful with the lights so I'll report back on how the finish holds up in the long run but one thing I'll say for sure is that every time I give these guys a click, any concerns were all easily forgotten as I'm simply overwhelmed by the performance.

In short, a click (or two) and a smile and another two VERY BRIGHT companions guiding me through the night...



GALLERY







Disclosure: TN10 & TN11 were provided by ThruNite for review.

Edited by: sb56637 on 08/26/2014 - 17:21
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Congrats!  Do post your impressions once you get it.


Cheers,
Tim

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Am I the only one to notice that we are getting more, higher quality reviews here at BLF?  More pieces like this and BLF will be the go-to flashlight site on the web.  Bravo, turbo.

 

My take on these fine looking fellas . . .

The no-knurl works for me aesthetically and with the tactical ring, fins and no-roll head,  you probably won't drop this light.  And, I think I hear you about ano concerns; it may be an issue but certainly not a deal killer (unless further use dictates otherwise) considering overall superb looks and performance.

Another thing I like is battery versatility.  2.7 to 12 volts is a pretty big spread and my experience has been; regulated lights such as this seem to prefer a certain voltage, a sweet spot you could call it.  Battery choice is always a good thing.

I like the wider cut bezel crenellation for head-down night-stand duty and the only possible negative might be the tint but, you say it really is not as green as I'm seeing so . . . we've all seen a lot worse.

Are they worth $80?  I'd have to hold it in my hand to know but from here - seems kinda steep.  Again Tim, great review.

 

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How comes when I click on the pics it does not get bigger.

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Shucks Foy, thx a lot!  Agreed that value is in the hands of the beholder but I feel that ThruNite has catered well to the enthusiast market.  They have endeavored to provide flashaholics true pocket rockets in various forms.  Can't wait to see how the finalized version of their new 3 x XM-L performs.

@how2 - looks like the links are all broken, I'll fix 'em but will take some time.

 

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Superb reviews turboBB, I'm sure I will only ever own a couple of the lights you review but I will be well informed and confident in my purchases thanks to yourself Smile

What is your favourite light in this form size? (single 18650)

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OK, all the links should be fixed but do let me know any I've missed.

@Jeansy, thx!  And that's a very good question but when posed to a flashaholic, it's akin to asking a parent which child is their favorite (ok perhaps not the best analogy since some obviously do have favorites... but you get the point).

For me, I'd have to say that my favorite light is the one I'm carrrying/using at the moment as there was a specific reason I had acquired the light be it for aesthetics, flood, throw, toughness, regulation, etc. etc.  Perhaps this is also why I have such a hard time trying to thin the collection... Undecided

HOWEVER, with that said, out of the 1x18650 lights in my collection (and for the specific reasons):

For decent output, good mix of flood/throw, rock solid build and perfect regulation:  Xeno G10v2

Pocket rocket flood: TN10

Pocket rocket throw: TN11

Compact w/quick access to strobe: T20C

Excellent tint and aesthetics, H/L/Strobe: Rook CheckMate

Sentimental value, gorgeous looks: Olight M20 Ti

P60 (pill only) versatility and turbo head:  DBS V2 (my very first nice light)

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Wow! Beautiful photography as usual, and a great teaser paragraph! Perfect for... the frontpage and sticky! Smile

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A prime example of why Lang does not do reviews. Very thorough and excellent review Turbo. Dont know how I missed this one but they look like really nice lights. 

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I know I'm a bit late to the party, but excellent review, Turbo! I read this before bidding on a Thrunite eBay bundle. I was able to snag a TN10 + a Ti for $40. A very impressive light that I would not have considered before reading this review. Thanks for this and all the phenomenal reviews you do, Turbo - you are a real asset to the BLF community. CrownBeer

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+1

I too am late to the party – TN10 arrived today, TN11 on its way. Only problem with TN10 is that there is a horrible ring on the very outside edge of the beam. Didn’t notice it during the day, but outside in the dark it’s quite distracting, especially alongside a wall or similar. I can’t get the bezel off to maybe adjust the reflector, but might have a crack at it tomorrow.

I also had trouble with the mode setting – wouldn’t shift from firefly until I cleaned the threads of the head. Now it ramps fine when I want it to (but having set it, can’t see why I’d want to change it again).

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Nice review turbo.
Good to see these 2 lights you got performed well.
It restores some luster to the Thrunite brand.
Their 2 top models have been taking a beating lately with QC issues.
It still may take more proving from them to regain their reputation.
This is a start, or should I say re-start.

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makapuu wrote:
Nice review turbo. Good to see these 2 lights you got performed well. It restores some luster to the Thrunite brand. Their 2 top models have been taking a beating lately with QC issues. It still may take more proving from them to regain their reputation. This is a start, or should I say re-start.

Seems to be a disconnect at Thrunite: I have several Ti's, TN10, T30 and T30S and they are some of the nicest quality lights I've seen. I can't understand why they would have all these quality issues with their more expensive lights (ie, TN30, TN31).

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BetweenRides wrote:

makapuu wrote:
Nice review turbo. Good to see these 2 lights you got performed well. It restores some luster to the Thrunite brand. Their 2 top models have been taking a beating lately with QC issues. It still may take more proving from them to regain their reputation. This is a start, or should I say re-start.

Seems to be a disconnect at Thrunite: I have several Ti’s, TN10, T30 and T30S and they are some of the nicest quality lights I’ve seen. I can’t understand why they would have all these quality issues with their more expensive lights (ie, TN30, TN31).

I can’t understand it either.
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Have a couple of Thrunites -TN11 , TN12, T10 and TN10. These are good, quality lights.

I like them for these attributes:
Pocketable and my darling lights:
T10 – my edc – extremely light – 17g without AA battery.
TN12 – 66g – puts out a lot of light – about 700 lumens and still edceable.

Backpack:
TN11 – powerful and throws far, a tad too heavy in the pocket, but very usable.

TN10 – Just set mode to max and be done with it. Confined to house duty.

TN30 – the No. 1 light in my possession.

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My TN11 arrived this morning in amazing time considering it’s holiday season (ordered 13th December).

Unfortunately, it looks like a dud. It did have 2 modes, but I couldn’t change the lower one (loose head). Then the high became a very low flashing beacon (after three quick bright flashes). Then I lost the lower mode altogether, so I now have a light that works as a firefly beacon.

Tried cleaning the heads, and swopping bits from the TN10, but nothing worked. I got it from Thrunite’s eBay store, so have contacted them there for advice. The TN10 outer ring really annoys me too now – I got up in the night and used that light and the ring is very distracting.

Not such great deals after all, perhaps.

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Got the TN11 back today, and am very pleased.

First thing I noticed was that the head has changed – it’s now smooth, without the sharpish edges of the older version. I also got an additional extension, so am running it off two 18650’s. I’ll have to wait till dark to see the difference it makes, but looks OK so far (and the modes change OK).

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Glad to hear they took care of you, Woody. Can't wait to see some pics of the new head and the light in 2x configuration.

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Thanks BR. Also got the TN10 back without the horrible ring, although a simple bezel change would have saved a little shipping cost (which they refunded by means of a Saber 1A).

Just re-read turboBB’s TN11S review – the head I got on the replacement is identical to the new head on the TN11S, which isn’t surprising, I guess.