Review: SkyRay King - yet another review

SkyRay King

Pro:

  • Bright! (Even brighter than my Dry Turbo)
  • Enough battery juice (4*18650) for the 3*XM-L
  • while still being compact
  • side button easier to access than tail cap clicky
  • tailstands
  • strobe is hidden (long button-press)
  • design (matter of taste though)
  • parallel battery setup: mixing different batteries is ok.
  • lock-out (turn head 1/4 turn to prevent accidental activation)
  • spare o-ring

Contra:

  • no-memory click-through (off/high/low/off)
  • to brightness modes only, missing a nice medium
  • switch glitch: sometimes goes off-high-low-high-high-low-off
  • noticeable PWM on low: 184Hz
  • switch not easy to find in the dark
  • parallel battery setup: When inserting, make sure they have the same voltage,
    do not mix cells with different voltages!

Got it from Manafont, 80$ incl shipping. (reflink, no-ref)

I have to apologize for writing a review just a few hours after _the_'s nice review (which has much nicer pictures). I ordered it the first day it came available with the intent to write a review, but then it got stuck at customs, so I got it later and had to pay additional ~14$ tax. I just didn't want to give up on the review, too. I try to bring up some other aspects.

Power: Let's first get to the outstanding aspect of this light: it's very bright and beats my Dry (turbo NW) by a few percent.

Flashlight est. flux [lm] throw [m] intensity [kcd]
Dry 2310 279 19.5
King 2380 283 20

I usually wouldn't give the values with 3 digits precision, but since they are so close... :)
With a performance like this, I guess the LEDs get some >3A each.

Size/shape/body: Quite compact! barrel is 50mm in diameter - but it lies better in your hand than the DRY, because your thumb doesn't have to reach the tailcap. The power of 4*18650 in compact dimensions - I really like that.
A button on the tailcap is however easier to find when it's dark (especially with GITD).
Tailstands well. Quality is nice. Comes with a spare o-ring.

User interface/modes: For me this is the downside of this light. It's like those flashlights with a three-stage clicky; you always have to cycle through both modes to switch it on and off again - which I don't like. It's a bit easier here though because the button is easier to press.
Additionally there's a bug, sometimes it doesn't switch off when it should, but goes high again (off-high-low-high-high-low-off, sometimes even twice in succession).
The hidden strobe is nice, but one could think of a better UI for a softkey (electronic switch).
Modes are off/100%/11%; I really miss a medium mode, as the full mode is to 'hot' for extended use and 11% is too low for such a power-light.
I already though about a self-programmed 24*AMC7135 driver, but the performance of this light is very nice as it is. Haven't taken a look at the driver yet.

Battery setup: I like that parallel battery setup; and I see why they used an electronic switch for this light - ~9A are a bit too much for a simple mechanical switch. The parallel setup allows to mix different cells (with different quality) without problem, better cells just contribute more current then. However, when inserting make sure all cells have the same voltage, or else high balancing currents might flow, protection circuits might trip and take a battery completely out until the light is opened again.

Design: Well, it's a matter of taste, especially the color. I like it. It's not really golden, more like bright bronze.

Conclusion: Great brightness in a compact and nice form, but with a UI in need of improvement.

wow, thanks, especially for the figures. I'm curious as to your thoughts on it being brighter than the DRY. I was skeptical, ie, how can you get brighter than direct drive, but I can't argue w/ your readings...

Are you using TF flames? I guess that extra battery is helping a lot. If you were conus (and you don't have any), I'd lend you my cgr18650ch cells to see if you got higher readings on your DRY. Yes, I'm that curious lol

Dont forget CW is brighter than NW too. So i reckon the NW King is less bright than NW DRY.

Both NW and CW are T6 so they should output the same amount of lumens, but CW will always look brighter.

Oh I didnt realise they were both T6. Nice.

Oh my...I'm liking that light more and more each time I see a write up on it. Such a sweet format and the color has grown on me. Just that 2 mode driver is the hold back. I still see myself pulling the trigger on one in the near future.

Thanks for the review and nice pics!

BTW, how are you measuring the light output?

I´ll second this, mode and PWM update to this and it would be a hit.

Nice review, thanks!

Being that there's 4 18650's, how safe is this configuration? Since they're in parallel, will a weaker cell get charged by a stronger one when the light is switched off?

yeap. one should use the same type of cells with this light.

Great review, especially the Power Readings!

Interesting question, it would be nice to test with different cells and see what happens. I’m using it with 4 identical cells, and each time I open it to measure voltage they all have the same volts.

Another interesting experiment, would be to have 4 identical DMM and measure current on each cell at same time; with 4 same cells, and mixing cells.

Always use the same cells, yes I know that. But there's always ever so slight differences between identical cells. I was wondering if they would balance themselves out in this configuration..

i suppose it would depend on the difference between the voltages.

Does anyone have any idea about whether there is and if so how much parasitic drain from the switch?

It takes 1.51mA from the batteries. It’s too low, doesn’t affect us.

Actually you can mix different cells with different quality. The parallel setup assures that they always have the same voltage. The better cells just contribute more current.

But the critical moment is when you insert them and they get connected via the head: If they have different voltages, balancing currents flow, higher charged cells charges the lower charged cells. Avoid that.

I measure 1.5mA parasitic drain. --- Edit: Ah, FX-32 was faster...

The only thing that I'm waiting for... Medium mode.

So still not to add in my collection

Maybe you already know... but thinking about it, I realize that this flashlight does not have a boost drive, that's an advantage because boost drivers are too inefficient.

The LEDs are wired in parallel for that reason, to not use a boost driver.

Medium Mode would be GREAT, but maybe it has a programmable IC… I don’t know, just a theory.

anyone has comparison with its distance relative, TM11???

When I first read this I thought it odd that it was two mode only but then I realized that low (10%) was still 230 lumens.
If you need such a powerful light in the first place then I can see either using it at 2300 lumens or 230 lumens.
I think the switch would bother me more…off/high/low/off. However that’s even more reason (potentially) to not add another mode in between on and off.
I love the side switch and even though it’s still crenelated I see the crenelation is flat.
Interesting light! I like it much better than the DRY.
If anyone is saving up their money to buy me a light…I’ll take this one please :slight_smile:

Hi 2300 lumen for 5-10 mins, because small body.

Low 230 lumen, I will use 6P instead.

If medium mode is around 1000+ lumen for continue light up... PERFECT