Should Dino Direct still have an AVOID label?

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You can change your vote anytime by cancelling your vote and then voting again. The question is still exactly the same, but I added clarification to the choices because it was a little confusing the way it was worded. The basic choices are the same. "Yes" means they should keep the AVOID label (and always did). "No" means the AVOID should be lifted (and always did). I added a third option to change to RECOMMENDED, but that was just for Kreisler/DinoBoy Smile

If you've been around these forums for long, you know that any user can post a poll, and the choices have been known to change, especially after getting some feedback. This poll is non-binding, it's just your opinion.

I'm not shilling for anyone. It just seems like a lot of people are buying from Dino now and I haven't heard too many horror stories lately. There are caveats with any budget dealer and there are still some reasons to be careful with Dino. But if they were perfect, they should be RECOMMENDED.

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brted wrote:

You can change your vote anytime by cancelling your vote and then voting again. The question is still exactly the same, but I added clarification to the choices because it was a little confusing the way it was worded. The basic choices are the same. "Yes" means they should keep the AVOID label (and always did). "No" means the AVOID should be lifted (and always did). I added a third option to change to RECOMMENDED, but that was just for Kreisler and DinoBoy Smile

If you've been around these forums for long, you know that any user can post a poll, and the choices have been known to change, especially after getting some feedback. This poll is non-binding, it's just your opinion.

I'm not shilling for anyone. It just seems like a lot of people are buying from Dino now and I haven't heard too many horror stories lately. There are caveats with any budget dealer and there are still some reasons to be careful with Dino. But if they were perfect, they should be RECOMMENDED.

I agree, I dont think DD is magnitudes of order better/worse than anyone else, but they do seem to try hard, and with PP or Chat or BLF Customer Rep one way or another it will probably work out.

I just think its serious to label a store Rec/Avoid, even this thread will get 1000s of reads.  Its already nearly 700 reads in less than 24hrs.

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Obviously an Avoid rating didn't stop members from spending  thousands and thousands of dollars with them . give them good pricing ......and ratings be damned .

just proves no one really cared what the rating said .

 people who did missed out on some of the best deals of the year .

I agree with esrevenge ...They are neither better or worse than your average vendor ,,Actually I think they are somewhat better than kai or DX ..neither of which i've seen a pulse from in the last 6 months .

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Lensman wrote:

IMO, "AVOID" should have been replaced with "CAUTION" a long time ago.

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Boaz wrote:

Obviously an Avoid rating didn't stop members from spending  thousands and thousands of dollars with them . give them good pricing ......and ratings be damned .

just proves no one really cared what the rating said .

 people who did missed out on some of the best deals of the year .

I agree with esrevenge ...They are neither better or worse than your average vendor ,,Actually I think they are somewhat better than kai or DX ..neither of which i've seen a pulse from in the last 6 months .

I'm a true BLF'r.  I go where the deals are.  Me = dispicable, I know. 

I'm sure if DD was an Ebay seller, their rating would probably be in the 98 to 99% range.  It only takes a few buyers with a bad experience with a supplier to make them look really bad on a forum.  However I don't agree with a supplier selling products that don't match the listing on the description. (ie. listing 5 modes and getting 3mode flashlight & drop-ins)  That is just not forgivable.

IMAO - I say remove the "AVOID" and replace it with "CAUTION" at the very most.

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Lennart wrote:

Lensman wrote:

IMO, "AVOID" should have been replaced with "CAUTION" a long time ago.

 +1

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pounder wrote:

Lennart wrote:

Lensman wrote:

IMO, "AVOID" should have been replaced with "CAUTION" a long time ago.

 +1

I've followed this thread and the worse practices seem to be in the past. The recent problems usually are with culture, language, and business management. If your "CAUTIOUS" when dealing with DD then bargans are to be found.

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Komichi wrote:

pounder wrote:

Lennart wrote:

Lensman wrote:

IMO, "AVOID" should have been replaced with "CAUTION" a long time ago.

 +1

I've followed this thread and the worse practices seem to be in the past. The recent problems usually are with culture, language, and business management. If your "CAUTIOUS" when dealing with DD then bargans are to be found.

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From my experience they should still have an avoid label. I've ordered three times from DD and every time there have been some issues.

Order #1: an UF-504b. Bezel was nicked, looked like it had been dropped on something sharp, it was 3-mode although the product description stated 5-mode. Gave DD the benefit of the doubt this time.

Order #2: $50 flashlight. Bezel anodization sloppy, uneven greyish-black colored while rest of flashlight was black. Contacted CS with live chat, supplied picture of defect, had to wait 40+ mins before an otta clone told me there is nothing wrong with it and kept on insisting that I could not choose color(?). Not sure if they didn't understand or pretended not to understand the issue even if I explained it several times and I had supplied a picture. No offer of partial refund, gift card or anything else.

Order #3: never received the order. Was told by DD to wait for the package beyond the 45 day period you can open a dispute with Paypal. I opened a dispute with Paypal before day 45 and was told by DD to close the dispute and open a case in my DD account (which I already had done). I kept the dispute open and still no sign of my package by the date DD originally told me to wait. I asked for a refund and got refunded one day before the date when I would have had to escalate the dispute to a claim.

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I used them for the first time for some batteries and charger. They arrived in typical 2 week fasion. A novel idea about sending pics of your products as they prep. Besides, I got a ton of flower seeds to toss since I was a valued new customer, lol. Got a few coupons too from them.

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I would vote CAUTION instead of AVOID, too.

And I would add one more thing to take into account when shopping at dino's:

Price fluctuation can be annoying, BUT it can be dangerous too. I left some items to my shopping cart on Saturday (because my $5 GC didn't work). So I contacted the CS and got a new GC, good!

But when I came back to retry check out, the price of one item was changed (up by $10). While being busy trying to get the GC working and all additional shipping options unchecked, I didn't notice the price difference (Ouch! Silly me!!) => lost $5 (compared to price on Sat, without GC).

Just imagine this happening with a price fluctuation of $100.. Buyer beware!

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They get free loan from poor buyers. They take your money and in worst case scenario never deliver the item. Like they never delivered my Nitecore EX 11. They claim that Nitecore EZ AA and EX 11 are the same. Yell

 

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They sent me a 1 mode romisen rc-29 instead of the 3 mode I ordered. DD chat gave me a lot of trouble but thankfully they sorted it out and gave me a gift card. But by that time the price was already a lot higher so I just ordered another light the tank e09 which I like.

I agree the avoid tag should be removed replaced by caution.

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I'm too for remove the hypocrite avoid changing with caution or something like that

they wrong often but the CS usually fix it and at worst paypal is ever on your side, they can't lose the partnership

I had fun and made good deals with them, that tnx to the forum feedback about DD group buy, that made me avoid the avoid label and jump in the DD's roulette xD

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Ok, I removed the AVOID label because of the majority vote. I personally do not like them and have never bought from them, and I don't plan on changing my stance any time soon.

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Ok, I removed the AVOID label because of the majority vote. I personally do not like them and have never bought from them, and I don't plan on changing my stance any time soon.

AVOID label may be removed but they're still AVOID in my book. I doubt they'll ever offer such a great deal that I would order from them again.

PS. I wonder how many times kreisler voted "No, they're okay"? :oups: Silly Wink

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Dimlux wrote:

PS. I wonder how many times kreisler voted "No, they're okay"? :oups: Silly Wink

To be precise, the stats show that Kreisler voted once "they're ok" and Dinoboy voted once "they're ok". Wink

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sb56637 wrote:

Dimlux wrote:

PS. I wonder how many times kreisler voted "No, they're okay"? :oups: Silly Wink

To be precise, the stats show that Kreisler voted once "they're ok" and Dinoboy voted once "they're ok". Wink

Good thing that both voted for the same option. If kreisler would have found out that dinoboy would have voted "Yes, still AVOID" it might have gotten ugly.

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kreisler I like you but don't abuse of your accounts is annoying

...where is the queue? xD

on the other side probably DD competitors voted yes avoid many times, would be nice see that list Silly and what about summer? xD

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kreisler wrote:

Dimlux wrote:
Good thing that both voted for the same option.

d*mn.. that's funny lol. would've been like self-kidding otherwise!! Big Smile

( no further votes or accounts do i own. but yes, i let dinoboy vote 1x and also speak (in this thread) 1x Wink )

I just marked you post as spam, I don't mean to abuse the spam system but spamming about DD with multiple accounts, you and yourself each voting and quoting back and forth yeah it is really annoying.

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My experiences with DD were good. I had 4 orders, all placed before the Chinese NY. All came through ok.

So I vote to remove AVOID, but CAUTION is probably a good idea, considering all the bad reports.

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I can't vote for some reason, i'm not sure where to click.  here is a screenshot I took

 

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kreisler wrote:

i've cleaned the annoying posts, no prob! my little green buddy scolded me too

whose next?

me me!  I want to vote No, to remove the avoid rating.  help?

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I set voting to close after 6 or 7 days.

It was hard to continue saying AVOID when half of the posts are about buying stuff there. Thanks, Mr. Admin, for reconsidering. I agree there are still some definite warnings about needed about them though.

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I vote avoid unless you have a lot of time on your hands to deal with the "issues" that most if not all orders from them seem to have. You will need to deal with CS if you buy from DD and you will find out how to file a PP DISPUTE! I will order from more reliable sellers like Manafont and Tiny Deal.
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I have had both good and bad experiences with all of the over seas budget vendors. The very fact Dino Direct has stolen pictures from forum members, continues to post fake reviews, still has products mislabeled after being told numerous times. They also have two different protocols for orders if you just randomly order something you can easily get screwed and have no recourse but Paypal Dispute, if you participate in the group buys you get acceptable service like everyone should get. For those reasons they should keep the avoid rating. I certainly wouldn't recommend a family member or close friend order from them.

I am already visualizing the duct tape over your mouth.

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Hi my dear BLF every friend ,I am so happy to hear this news,I feel really excited about thisSmile,thanks our honor admin and thanks for all our members great support.I will try my best to support every memeber ,I love BLF,BLF is my life ,anything If I can do for you ,please let me know, I will try my best to help .Wink

All the best to our friends,

sincerely,

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E1320 wrote:

I have had both good and bad experiences with all of the over seas budget vendors. The very fact Dino Direct has stolen pictures from forum members, continues to post fake reviews, still has products mislabeled after being told numerous times. They also have two different protocols for orders if you just randomly order something you can easily get screwed and have no recourse but Paypal Dispute, if you participate in the group buys you get acceptable service like everyone should get. For those reasons they should keep the avoid rating. I certainly wouldn't recommend a family member or close friend order from them.

Hi dear friend,thanks for your great information,if you order something from our store ,whether before order or after order ,all of them you can let me know,I will help you contact our relative deparement ,and also we will give you good impression,and we will try our best to support you ,and we will become more and more better.Thanks for your great support .Smile

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I must admit I have been impressed by the amount of help that Summer if trying to provide to us, its good to know that DinoDirect rep is somewhat closer to us, BLF members Wink
I can say only good things about Summer regarding my DinoDirect shopping experience, he/she has always responded in timely manner and been very positive every time :)!
Hey, Summer, I hope youre doing good at DinoDirect, dont work too much, have some fun time too! 

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