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~10-15 Lumens for general use LO (keyhole finding for example)
~.5 Lumens for night vision preservation (more of a SUB-Low than a Low)
I like them both equally for different intended uses. Since 10-15 is not an option, I voted for <1L by default.
depends on the light ..Bigger lights ....higher lows ...like 3-5 lumens
Smaller lights 1/3 lumen~ to 2 lumens
indoor light? outdoor light ?...depends
put a gun to my head .. I'll say 2 lumens
2....35....300 lumens nice AA/14500 3 mode
In my opinion, under 1 lumen just for collection, not for use. It last really long time but in the situation u need this, u may be die for hungry or thirsty before it out of work
Just my personal idea
I just had someone here at BLF (famous for dropins) make me a custom one.
It goes moonlight, low, med, high, turbo. It's now my favorite light :)
Im not sure how many lumens each mode is but it's FREAKING AWESOME!!!
Tell me more! I'm very interested.
Indoors, maybe a couple of lumens. Outdoors, you need 5-10 just to see the ground. I voted 5-10. I do think moonlight is a nice option though.
I just don't get the "moonlight low" that so many rave about. Perhaps I need to experience it for myself. I would have voted for a higher number like 20 to 30 if it were an option, but again it likely depends on the light itself and it's intended use.
-Garry
I'd like to see the moonlight low in terms of amps on low, not lumens. What I am looking for in Moonlight Low is looooooooooooooooooong runtimes. One of the coolest features of the TK41 is that it can run continuously in Low mode for 270 hours. That is more than a month of running all night, every night. And on Low, the TK is still as brigth as your average incandescent.
I use Moonlight low a lot in my ST10 (single AA) because it does not put out enough light to cause glare, or wake anyone else up a night. Yet you can still read with it, and still get long runtimes.
I think only my ST10 and ST20 have true moonlight lows, of all the lights I have. One of the reasons I love them.
I have two very specific uses for ultra-low:
- Leaving the light on at light to be able to find it in a blacked out hotel room;
- Checking the baby;
Right now I use the Sunwayman V10 the most. Leave it on and twist as needed.
After the V10A experience I bought the Thrunite AAA Firefly. Simpler and not gradual but the same principle: want to check a detail or find the light, use the ultra-low; want to see something bigger, twist it.
But I agree they are useless outdoors....
+1 I agree 100% with what garrybunk said.
The only use I have for it is when I am woken up in the middle of the night with COMPLETELY dilated vision. In such conditions I find even 4-5 Lumens too bright and blinding. My daughter has always been a very light sleeper, and now suffers night terrors and shes a sleep-walker too. So I am frequently waken from a dead sleep in the middle of the night.... pitch black, 2:30 AM with 100% night-dilated vision.
Outside of that I find moon-modes pretty useless... just too dim for any practical use.
PS... I envy any of you with a lifestyle that allows 100% un-interrupted deep sleep. Moon mode is not a choice for me... its a necessity, for at least 2-3 lights in my collection.
Just for kicks here are my lowest moons...
The retina scorcher second from the right is a AAA solitaire with scotch tape diffusing film.
The far right is a Quark AA-T-R5, spec'd at .2 Lumens.
The two on the left are custom moded lights, XML at .002.
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So I voted 5-10 by default. I'm assuming that by '3 modes' the OP means hi, med, low; not hi, low, strobe? 
Don't know how many lumens exactly, but something a like the iTP A3 R5 low mode would be perfect (could be a little less bright, but as it is it is almost spot-on for most low-mode tasks).
Getting up at night from a computer screen to go to the other end of the house, none of the options are good for me. . . I need more (say 20 to 30 lumens) since my eyes are not night-adapted and I like a solid spill for a 30' X 30' open space with a 50' throw on that walk . . important as this is my most frequent use for a light.
Too low for a mid, so there needs to be 1 to 3 versions of low to cover reading/small room or tent and long run-time scenarios.
The question can only be answered by those with lights that go that low .Something you have to experiance .for me 2 lumens is an acceptable low ..I find the 3 lumens a little too high . truth is that it REALLY DEPENDS on the emitter ...A floody emitter looks like a lot less lumens as well .... 3 xpe lumens is(seems/looks) much brighter than 5 xml lumens. i noticed this along tome ago when playing with a very floody zebralight H501 anda morethrow hotspot on a zebralight H31.. the h31 sems much brighter and yet it's running much lower lumens .
trooplewis ...your Klarus st-10 is 2 lumens on it's hidden low low mode
given the two choices a super high or a super low
I'll take the low low
For me there is a use for most any level. It's just a matter of making choices and not having too many levels.
For a low 2 or 3 is fine with me. A low low of .2 is sometimes useful if you have more than 3 levels but it's too low if it's the only low.
With my Zebralight H51f I do use .2 sometimes with astronomy or when waking up in a tent camping. If it's walking around however it's usually too low and 2 (lumens) is much better.
When outside and wanted to retain most of my night vision 10-15 lumens is definitely too much. If hiking it's fine as is 30 lumens or even more sometimes.
The Thrunite TI is a good choice (for me) in that it's either 3 lumens or 60 lumens. No need for more choices with that light.
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I guess it's just a personal preference, but I prefer a very low for the first setting. You can always click through the low setting to what you might need in a hurry. But I also have lights that turn on in the high setting. As stated above, depends on why and where you're using the light.