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I'm looking to buy a new edc for work so I need something small (under 4 inches) and under $100.  I am looking at the lumapower incendio v3u, fenix pd22, sunwayman m10r, sunwayman m11r.  What do you guys think about these lights?  Any other suggestions (no variable output lights, must have set outputs)?

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This is BLF. What do you need it for? What use?

It is possible to get top performance for much under $100 for most uses.

This is not a Dollar hype site like you may have seen before.

BTW my current EDC lights are:

ITP A1

and in my work bag: 

XinTP C8

FF STL-V6

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Xtar wk21 Meteor

or

Balder Se-1

Both have XML emitters and are well under $100. Add a charger and some batteries and you could still be under $100.

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http://www.zebralight.com/SC60-Flashlight-18650-300Lm-_p_38.html

Best light you will ever own or need.  Not necessarily the last one you will want (we are flashaholics) but the last you will need.  Does it all and does it best.  Fantastic build quality and the best UI I've ever handled.  I love mine!  Love

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since your budget is a $100 id say go for a zebralight sc600.  

there is also the uf-t50 which is basically a clone with a nice magnetic bottom end but without the genius zebralight UI or warranty. i kind of want to pick one up to compare to the real thing since its half price. http://budgetlightforum.com/node/8603 someone already did a great write up

fenix and sunwayman are good brands too but i dont own any of those smaller models just their bigger offerings.

i had the incendio v3u with xm-l but exchanged it for the sc600. incendio has great overall quality and nice accessories but the led tint was blueish purple and not driven hard. illuminationgear has great customer service and ship usps priority. i know they arent exactly a budget site that most of the BLF guys are used to but since youre looking at some quality brands i should mention they get a double thumbs up from me since they carry all of the above.

i highly recommend a small form factor 18650 light because of the huge runtime difference over cr123

for instance my solarforce l2m is 3.75" but gets 750mah compared to a 5.75" l2/l2p thats getting 3100mah. sc600/uf-t50 are only about 4" with a 18650 stuffed in

 

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http://budgetlightforum.com/node/8013 this is the review i meant to post the other link is a comparison between the two

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Welcome to BLF, RobCob.  What else are you looking for in a light, other than size and price?  How bright, battery preference, number of modes, etc.?

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Price and size are the big two.  As far as battery goes I don't have any 18650s so a light running those will automatically add on the price of batteries and charger =$$$$.  I would like it as bright as possible with good runtime with decent throw.  Really only need three modes (low, medium, turbo).  How are the zebralights for durability in the switch?  The SC600 is too big for my needs as I need something I can put in my pocket on the construction site without limiting mobility.  SC51 looks nice.

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Batteryjunction is having a sale on their V10r's. 20% off

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RobCob wrote:

Price and size are the big two.  As far as battery goes I don't have any 18650s so a light running those will automatically add on the price of batteries and charger =$$$$.  I would like it as bright as possible with good runtime with decent throw.  Really only need three modes (low, medium, turbo).  How are the zebralights for durability in the switch?  The SC600 is too big for my needs as I need something I can put in my pocket on the construction site without limiting mobility.  SC51 looks nice.

RobCob,  Zebralights are known for reliability and I haven't had any issues with mine. The SC60 is barely bigger than an 18650 cell and smaller than some AA hosts. XP-G w/300 lumen in high.  Until you own a Zebralight you may never appreciate how awesome they are, especially the user interface.  I know I didn't! 

This light has 3 main levels (High, Medium, and Low). Each main level can be configured to one of its two sub-levels. The second sub-level of the High can be further configured to different brightness levels or strobes.

  • Basic Operation
    • Short click turns on the light to High or turns off the light.
    • Long click (press and hold for about 0.6 seconds) turns on the light to Low.
  • Advanced Operation and Configuration 
    • Short click turns on the light to High. Short click again quickly to cycle from High to Medium, and Low.
    • Press and hold to cycle from Low to High, release to set. When press and hold, the light always cycle from Low to High regardless which level you are currently in.
    • Double click to toggle and select between the two sub-levels for that main level. Sub-level selections (except the strobe) for the 3 main levels are memorized after the light is turned off and through battery changes.
    • The second sub-level of the High can be configured after 6 double clicks. Double click (startng with the 7th) to cycle and select different brightness levels or strobes. Short click to turn off the light when finishing configurations. The selections for the second sub-level of the High are memorized after the light is turned off and through battery changes.
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This is an easy solution, all you need in one go, proven forum favourite way under budget....

http://www.solarforceflashlight-sales.com/product_detail.php?t=LF&s=45&i...

I've never used a Zebralight but they do sound like great lights.

Roche F12 is awesome from intl-outdoor but runtime on full is limited by heat generated by such a small host. NW tint, no noticeable PWM, sensible 3 mode no blinkies and great build quality.

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Aloha and welcome to BLF RobCob!

 

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Jeansy wrote:

This is an easy solution, all you need in one go, proven forum favourite way under budget....

http://www.solarforceflashlight-sales.com/product_detail.php?t=LF&s=45&i...

I've never used a Zebralight but they do sound like great lights.

Roche F12 is awesome from intl-outdoor but runtime on full is limited by heat generated by such a small host. NW tint, no noticeable PWM, sensible 3 mode no blinkies and great build quality.

Both nice lights but one of his requirements is 4" long or less.  Neither of those lights are.  If the SC600 is physically too big for him then the Solarforce is for sure.
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[quote=jaynick]since your budget is a $100 id say go for a zebralight sc600.  there is also the uf-t50 which is basically a clone with a nice magnetic bottom end but without the genius zebralight UI or warranty. i kind of want to pick one up to compare to the real thing since its half price. http://budgetlightforum.com/node/8603 someone already did a great write upfenix and sunwayman are good brands too but i dont own any of those smaller models just their bigger offerings.i had the incendio v3u with xm-l but exchanged it for the sc600. incendio has great overall quality and nice accessories but the led tint was blueish purple and not driven hard. illuminationgear has great customer service and ship usps priority. i know they arent exactly a budget site that most of the BLF guys are used to but since youre looking at some quality brands i should mention they get a double thumbs up from me since they carry all of the above.i highly recommend a small form factor 18650 light because of the huge runtime difference over cr123for instance my solarforce l2m is 3.75" but gets 750mah compared to a 5.75" l2/l2p thats getting 3100mah. sc600/uf-t50 are only about 4" with a 18650 stuffed in [/quote]

+1 for the sc600 and illuminationgear.

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Thanks for the input.  Hmmmmm zebralight is looking pretty interesting but sunwayman keeps tugging at my leg.

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Welcome aboard, RobCob!

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Usually the best question is what do you have right now as far as lights ?

 what's you best or most favorite light ?

 

I'd buy a used ? shelfqueen D-10

 

But if you don't have a light at all ...lots of lights work .

Balder se-1 or a xeno tiger e03

I honestly think there is no reason to spend more than 20~30$ on a flashlight

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JohnnyMac wrote:

Jeansy wrote:

This is an easy solution, all you need in one go, proven forum favourite way under budget....

http://www.solarforceflashlight-sales.com/product_detail.php?t=LF&s=45&i...

I've never used a Zebralight but they do sound like great lights.

Roche F12 is awesome from intl-outdoor but runtime on full is limited by heat generated by such a small host. NW tint, no noticeable PWM, sensible 3 mode no blinkies and great build quality.

Both nice lights but one of his requirements is 4" long or less.  Neither of those lights are.  If the SC600 is physically too big for him then the Solarforce is for sure.

Oh yeah, 4" is a problem but what's half an inch between friends! I'd suggest the Roche is just as pocketable, it looks more slender than the Zebra and should be about twice the lumens. Not knocking the zebra though, I'd love one

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Jeansy wrote:

JohnnyMac wrote:

Jeansy wrote:

This is an easy solution, all you need in one go, proven forum favourite way under budget....

http://www.solarforceflashlight-sales.com/product_detail.php?t=LF&s=45&i...

I've never used a Zebralight but they do sound like great lights.

Roche F12 is awesome from intl-outdoor but runtime on full is limited by heat generated by such a small host. NW tint, no noticeable PWM, sensible 3 mode no blinkies and great build quality.

Both nice lights but one of his requirements is 4" long or less.  Neither of those lights are.  If the SC600 is physically too big for him then the Solarforce is for sure.

Oh yeah, 4" is a problem but what's half an inch between friends! I'd suggest the Roche is just as pocketable, it looks more slender than the Zebra and should be about twice the lumens. Not knocking the zebra though, I'd love one

LOL! And I'd love a Roche. Smile
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RobCob wrote:

 I need something small (under 4 inches) 

How come women never say this?

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soytnly wrote:

RobCob wrote:

 I need something small (under 4 inches) 

How come women never say this?

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Right now I have a Fenix tk-10, an ultrafire (don't know the model got it off deal extreme a few years ago), and a romisen (same story).  The tk-10 works great but its big and uses two cr123s ( I forgot to mention I'm looking for a single cell light) but the other two lights are garbage.  The other two work when then feel like it and the cap switch on the ultrafire is horrible.

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The zebra lights are very small and fit into a pocket nicely. Much smaller than you would expect. Great warranty and fancy U.I. Plus automatic entry into the "cool guys with zebra lights club" is included. No small thing.

Piers said " ....but who wants enough light, when you have the option for far too much "

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You can get a Zebralight 1xAA which gives you 200 lumens instead of an 18650.  This gives you the option of using normal AAs, or NiMH rechargables.  Less runtime of course, but I dont know how much you'd be using it at work, and 200 lumens is quite a bit.

If you are gonna get a 18650, I'd spring for an XM-L version that lets you really crank up the lumens if needed.  For example the SC600 XM-L zebralight lets you hit 750 lumens turbo mode!

Other good options are Romisen Flood to Throw lights.   A CR123 (using a rechargable CR123), an AA, and a 3xAAA are all decent options for a small light.  The advantage is that you get a nice EVEN FLOOD light with no hotspot. I use these around the house for working on stuff.

http://www.shiningbeam.com/servlet/the-237/Romisen-RC-dsh-C6-II-R4/Detai... 18 bucks. CR123. 3.3 inches

http://www.shiningbeam.com/servlet/the-180/Romisen-RC-dsh-29-II-R5/Detail  20 bucks, 1xAA, 4 inches.

You can get a generic 3xAAA one which will be a bit fatter than AA but shorter for 10 bucks.

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I've checked out all the lights you guys have suggested(thank you)and I think its between the zebralight SC31 and the sunwayman m10r xp-g.  Zebralight interface is kinda cool but I can't see how it would be any better/more convenient than a magnetic ring selector.  The other factor is if all stated outputs/runtimes are accurate on the manufacturers websites then they are basically both the same.  Only difference I see is zebralight rates lumens using OTF and sunwayman uses ANSI.  Big difference between the two rating systems?

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The Zebralight SC31w has my attention

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If your after a M10R, I would recommend the M11R. The M11R is just that much cuter and smaller. And the low mode goes real low (can be a good and bad thing depending on what you like) The M10R has a tail switch which allows momentary on, but if you don't need a tail switch the M11R save on length, and has a far better clip. The M10R clip feels kinda sus because its clipped onto the torch.

I am just tossing up between a natural grey or tan/sand colour M11R. Originally I wanted the sand, but after seeing a natural grey, that light grey finish is really nice too.

The zebra UI is button only, and the button has the advantage of doing more with less finger acrobatics singlehanded. The ring UI of the M11R is intuitive for those who don't want to/ can't work out single button UIs but the button UI allows for more functionality.

I don't have a zebra, but I have other single button UI torches, (Nitecore D10/D11.2, Sunwayman C10A, Novatac 120P, LF2XT) and they all have their pros and cons, but interms of UI between single button and ring, both depend on what you prefer and how you will hold the torch (thumb on tail or on head) and whether you can happily manage the ring.

 

ANSI should be OTF? I'm not sure but thats what I though? I wouldn't be too concerned with the output between both torches, a difference in brightness of double is noticeable but up close its not a huge difference, so smaller differences are not really significant unless compared side by side. Realistically you can't be running these torches in max for very long anyway because of heat. I only dare run my V10R on max for 30 seconds, up to a minute tops. For that reason I sometimes prefer a lower high level for practical use, although a super turbo mode is very impressive.

 

M11R

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There's a bunch of ways to see how bright a light is and manufacturers tend to use whatever gives them the biggest e-penis number. What it boils down to is that ANSI is more accurate an assessment than OTF, but tends to be a lower number, as it's taken after the light has been on for 3 mins rather than right away. So if they are equal numbers but one is ANSI and one is OTF, go with the ANSI one.

ANSI > OTF

http://flashlightwiki.com/ANSI-NEMA_FL-1

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The light is 2.5 inches long, .8 inch in diameter.

Mine hangs on a neck strap like a Coach uses for his whistle. It works on CR123 or 16340 cells.

This light will do 95% of what you need and is always there.

http://www.aimkon.com/catalog/product/a1-eos/

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If you choose a battery type, we will be better equipped to offer up some recs.

What kind of runtime is required before needing a cell change ?

Does the light require use of primaries (non-rechargeable) as well as rechargeable cells?

Are you looking for more of a floody beam for area illumination, or will you need to illuminate things at a long distance?

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He did post this in the CR123 sub-forum, so I think he's limiting it to that type, which is a good idea since he doesn't want anything over 4 inches. 

His last post had it down to Zebralight SC31 and the Sunwayman m10r xp-g, of which I'd choose the Zebralight as it comes with a headband to give you the head mount as an extra option. I would also suggest a Zebralight SC80 which gives you the choice of AA or CR123 but still clocks in at 3.2 inches long.

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