Btw I just found out that email is not his current and I had to open a PayPal dispute just to get the wrong payment back.
Actually, you probably didn’t need to open that dispute as that email does belong to Simon but as you found, that is not his PayPal email. Either way you probably should remove it from your post.
People should never list anybody’s email to (even their own) in a public forum. If Simon did that at one point, he shouldn’t have.
You are right though that Simon is absolutely swamped right now and even his responses to me have dwindled to almost nothing in the last few days so I’m trying not to bug him too much. He just needs a few days to get caught up.
Edit:
I assume you now have the correct PayPal email for Simon but if not just shoot me a PM and I’ll send it to you and can help if you have any questions about the ordering process.
You can make a screenshot of an email address and then post that
If not spambots can harvest it
Bringing back the L from BLF:
I hope all Convoys will be available in clear some day!
Oh yeah, but why stop at clear? All Convoys available in multiple colors! Although some of them won’t wear green very well, and some might not wear red all that great either. But I think most can look good in: Black, Grey, Clear, and Blue!
On second thought, if the green and red were a bit darker, earthier, they’d look good on just about any of the Convoy lights, I’m sure!
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- The YKK Philosophy
Btw I just found out that email is not his current and I had to open a PayPal dispute just to get the wrong payment back.
Actually, you probably didn’t need to open that dispute as that email does belong to Simon but as you found, that is not his PayPal email. Either way you probably should remove it from your post.
People should never list anybody’s email to (even their own) in a public forum. If Simon did that at one point, he shouldn’t have.
You are right though that Simon is absolutely swamped right now and even his responses to me have dwindled to almost nothing in the last few days so I’m trying not to bug him too much. He just needs a few days to get caught up.
Edit:
I assume you now have the correct PayPal email for Simon but if not just shoot me a PM and I’ll send it to you and can help if you have any questions about the ordering process.
Thanks. We’ve got it sorted out for now, well, sort of. I’m still waiting for PayPal to sort things out on their end, and I’ve got Simon’s PayPal email address as well.
For those who want this, it’s probably better to ask for a PayPal invoice from Simon with your order number for the adjusted BLF discount rather than asking him for his email etc.
Also unlike any flow chart that I’ve ever seen. Maybe that’s why I just can’t make heads or tails out of them. Old fart here.
BTW TK, I didn’t mean my comment in a negative way, but the first thing I like of is VanGogh when I see them. I take it it’s a personal way to make a flow chart? (if so, then there is nothing posted re: how to read them)
Also unlike any flow chart that I’ve ever seen. Maybe that’s why I just can’t make heads or tails out of them. Old fart here.
BTW TK, I didn’t mean my comment in a negative way, but the first thing I like of is VanGogh when I see them. I take it it’s a personal way to make a flow chart? (if so, then there is nothing posted re: how to read them)
Personally, I’d say it’s more of a MC Escher thing for obvious reasons. But hey, if it actually works, it works. Thinking back on the old Convoy C8 right beside me here and the day I got it, this mode swap thing isn’t that hard, and as most said here, you set it once, you set it forever.
Seriously hope I win Miller’s latest GAW so I can get one of these now!
Oh dang Jack you are right i should have do a clear C8 as price for the GAW.
Well there probably is coming another GAW in the future and will think a little longer before starting it then
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured...the first thought forbidden...the first freedom denied – chains us all, irrevocably."
People should never list anybody’s email to (even their own) in a public forum.
Even their own? I don’t see any problems with posting one’s own address as long as one is aware of how much spam they might be inviting…
… which, admittedly, could be quite a bit.
After two and a half decades on the internet and all sorts of forums and mailing lists and newsgroups and blogs and other public discussions, I’ve got nearly 1000 unique email addresses. So I ran some numbers on the past decade of logs on my email server. Not counting work stuff, I get an average of about 900 spam messages per day, and my server fends off about 2000 more email-based bot attacks each day. Of all that, only about one or two messages per day make it through all the filters. So ~99.8% filter accuracy. If I post my address in a public place, I do it with these things in mind.
Going by volume, the biggest offenders are bots which don’t even attempt to send any messages. After that, spam bots which harvest addresses from DNS (whois) records, then public mailing lists and web sites. The next-biggest offenders are companies who sell their customer lists to advertisers, and these are usually big companies, not little ones. (One nice thing about having a thousand email addresses is I can track who sold out or who got their data compromised.) Another big source of spam is acquaintances whose accounts or computers were compromised, so their address book was harvested. And Paypal, which is its own category because they send my paypal email address to each merchant I pay through them, so a lot of people have that address and I can’t track who is doing what.
I wouldn’t want to inflict that much spammy, scammy attention on anyone who isn’t prepared to deal with it… but with the right measures in place it’s not really a problem.
How do I flash the new firmware on an existing S2+? Any soldering required?
Probably, yes.
If the wires aren’t long enough to allow driver access, you’ll need to un-solder those from the emitter MCPCB before pulling the driver out. And in past years, some drivers were soldered into the pill… but I’m not sure if that’s still a thing these days. And if you have any stars soldered, that could interfere with flashing by grounding pins it needs for communication.
Otherwise, you can get more info about flashing by clicking the Link in my signature.
(hah, get it? Link? … Okay, screw you guys, at least I think I’m funny)
The next-biggest offenders are companies who sell their customer lists to advertisers, and these are usually big companies, not little ones.
4 letters.. F O R D
I bought a brand new F150 in 2013 and made the mistake of giving them my email address and cell phone number. Email spam I can handle, but several calls a day on my cell phone from different numbers, recorded message spam ranging from “this is your last warning that your car warranty is expiring”, tons of credit card offers, and “if you have at least 10k credit card debt we can help”.. etc… My “block number list” has hundreds of phone numbers on it.
I can’t believe Ford is that hard up to sell off their customer’s personal data, but evidently they are.
People should never list anybody’s email to (even their own) in a public forum.
Even their own? I don’t see any problems with posting one’s own address as long as one is aware of how much spam they might be inviting…
… which, admittedly, could be quite a bit.
After two and a half decades on the internet and all sorts of forums and mailing lists and newsgroups and blogs and other public discussions, I’ve got nearly 1000 unique email addresses. So I ran some numbers on the past decade of logs on my email server. Not counting work stuff, I get an average of about 900 spam messages per day, and my server fends off about 2000 more email-based bot attacks each day. Of all that, only about one or two messages per day make it through all the filters. So ~99.8% filter accuracy. If I post my address in a public place, I do it with these things in mind.
Going by volume, the biggest offenders are bots which don’t even attempt to send any messages. After that, spam bots which harvest addresses from DNS (whois) records, then public mailing lists and web sites. The next-biggest offenders are companies who sell their customer lists to advertisers, and these are usually big companies, not little ones. (One nice thing about having a thousand email addresses is I can track who sold out or who got their data compromised.) Another big source of spam is acquaintances whose accounts or computers were compromised, so their address book was harvested. And Paypal, which is its own category because they send my paypal email address to each merchant I pay through them, so a lot of people have that address and I can’t track who is doing what.
I wouldn’t want to inflict that much spammy, scammy attention on anyone who isn’t prepared to deal with it… but with the right measures in place it’s not really a problem.
Point taken my friend…
If any of you think you are as internet savvy as ToyKeeper there is probably no real harm in putting your email address in a public forum.
However, if you do not have 1000 unique email addresses and a server setup with TK level protection please understand the risk involved with posting your email address in a public forum…
Indeed it is. I didn’t even know about that one before it was listed. Based on the communication drop, I can confirm that Simon is buried in work and emails…
… if you do not have 1000 unique email addresses and a server setup with TK level protection …
Most decent email services are better than what I have set up. Ever looked in the spambox of a gmail account? They generally take care of all that noise automatically.
I’ve only kept my oldschool setup because I can’t help but tweak everything in reach, and I kinda like internet plumbing work. It’s not really a good thing. In the 1980s there were these computers called Lisp Machines, designed from the ground up to do absolutely everything in the Lisp language, an incredibly flexible and expressive language with no real abstraction ceiling limiting what it could do. The people who used these loved them, since they could customize literally everything about the software to their exact preferences and way of thinking. Each computer soon became an extension of its users. However, it also meant that each unit was incredibly personalized to the point that nobody else could use it. Each one basically spoke a different language than all the others.
That’s what I tend to do to almost everything I touch. It’s a bad habit.
Indeed it is. I didn’t even know about that one before it was listed. Based on the communication drop, I can confirm that Simon is buried in work and emails…
Now I will have to order a dozen of this drivers…And mod some lights again
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured...the first thought forbidden...the first freedom denied – chains us all, irrevocably."
Thanks ToyKeeper
D’oh….I can see how my original post reads now, I actually meant to say how does it compare on paper.
Looking forward to your results update
This Convoy looks impressive, nice job !
You can make a screenshot of an email address and then post that
If not spambots can harvest it
Bringing back the L from BLF:
I hope all Convoys will be available in clear some day!
It is done when it is done

How my BLF Specials generally work, please read before asking Qs
The Q8, Exciting a groupbuy for a Premium BLF special high lumens soda can light!
The GT, A BLF special GIGA thrower
The FW3A, a TLF BLF special small, elegant, powerful triple
Lithium Ion safety 101 important read
Sorry grammarlovers, I am a real King Typo.
Actually, you probably didn’t need to open that dispute as that email does belong to Simon but as you found, that is not his PayPal email. Either way you probably should remove it from your post.
People should never list anybody’s email to (even their own) in a public forum. If Simon did that at one point, he shouldn’t have.
You are right though that Simon is absolutely swamped right now and even his responses to me have dwindled to almost nothing in the last few days so I’m trying not to bug him too much. He just needs a few days to get caught up.
Edit:
I assume you now have the correct PayPal email for Simon but if not just shoot me a PM and I’ll send it to you and can help if you have any questions about the ordering process.
Oh yeah, but why stop at clear? All Convoys available in multiple colors! Although some of them won’t wear green very well, and some might not wear red all that great either. But I think most can look good in: Black, Grey, Clear, and Blue!
On second thought, if the green and red were a bit darker, earthier, they’d look good on just about any of the Convoy lights, I’m sure!
The Cycle of Goodness: “No one prospers without rendering benefit to others”
- The YKK Philosophy
Thanks. We’ve got it sorted out for now, well, sort of. I’m still waiting for PayPal to sort things out on their end, and I’ve got Simon’s PayPal email address as well.
For those who want this, it’s probably better to ask for a PayPal invoice from Simon with your order number for the adjusted BLF discount rather than asking him for his email etc.
Mighty helpful J-Dub74. Much appreciated.
I agree J-Dub, very artsy.
Also unlike any flow chart that I’ve ever seen. Maybe that’s why I just can’t make heads or tails out of them. Old fart here.
BTW TK, I didn’t mean my comment in a negative way, but the first thing I like of is VanGogh when I see them. I take it it’s a personal way to make a flow chart? (if so, then there is nothing posted re: how to read them)
Personally, I’d say it’s more of a MC Escher thing for obvious reasons. But hey, if it actually works, it works. Thinking back on the old Convoy C8 right beside me here and the day I got it, this mode swap thing isn’t that hard, and as most said here, you set it once, you set it forever.
Seriously hope I win Miller’s latest GAW so I can get one of these now!
Well darn it, I just ordered one, along with a new AR lens and smooth reflector and clip for my S2+. I blame all of you.
Now I’ve got three lights coming in the mail, and the wifey is going to give me that look.
Only 3 in the mail? Only having 3 orders on the way at any given time is considered a win here.
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Oh dang Jack you are right i should have do a clear C8 as price for the GAW.
Well there probably is coming another GAW in the future and will think a little longer before starting it then
It is done when it is done

How my BLF Specials generally work, please read before asking Qs
The Q8, Exciting a groupbuy for a Premium BLF special high lumens soda can light!
The GT, A BLF special GIGA thrower
The FW3A, a TLF BLF special small, elegant, powerful triple
Lithium Ion safety 101 important read
Sorry grammarlovers, I am a real King Typo.
That makes a great quote, truer words were never spoken also!!!
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I try to limit it 1 order/week. Any more than that and I start getting asked for quid pro quos.
My wifey is going to kill me soon (4 lights on the order this week)!
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BTW: is this driver setup availablr in black c8 host?
You can take any nanjg driver, flash it with this firmware and install it in any flashlight.
Ofcourse, or buy clear & black one and combine but that was not the question.
New driver available?
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Is that a new light brand? F&J XHP-35. Hmmmmm, where do you get em?
That Convoy maddness is obviously everywhere
Maybe it carries 3-4k hosts for modding to a BLFer
Even their own? I don’t see any problems with posting one’s own address as long as one is aware of how much spam they might be inviting…
… which, admittedly, could be quite a bit.
After two and a half decades on the internet and all sorts of forums and mailing lists and newsgroups and blogs and other public discussions, I’ve got nearly 1000 unique email addresses. So I ran some numbers on the past decade of logs on my email server. Not counting work stuff, I get an average of about 900 spam messages per day, and my server fends off about 2000 more email-based bot attacks each day. Of all that, only about one or two messages per day make it through all the filters. So ~99.8% filter accuracy. If I post my address in a public place, I do it with these things in mind.
Going by volume, the biggest offenders are bots which don’t even attempt to send any messages. After that, spam bots which harvest addresses from DNS (whois) records, then public mailing lists and web sites. The next-biggest offenders are companies who sell their customer lists to advertisers, and these are usually big companies, not little ones. (One nice thing about having a thousand email addresses is I can track who sold out or who got their data compromised.) Another big source of spam is acquaintances whose accounts or computers were compromised, so their address book was harvested. And Paypal, which is its own category because they send my paypal email address to each merchant I pay through them, so a lot of people have that address and I can’t track who is doing what.
I wouldn’t want to inflict that much spammy, scammy attention on anyone who isn’t prepared to deal with it… but with the right measures in place it’s not really a problem.
Probably, yes.
If the wires aren’t long enough to allow driver access, you’ll need to un-solder those from the emitter MCPCB before pulling the driver out. And in past years, some drivers were soldered into the pill… but I’m not sure if that’s still a thing these days. And if you have any stars soldered, that could interfere with flashing by grounding pins it needs for communication.
Otherwise, you can get more info about flashing by clicking the Link in my signature.
(hah, get it? Link? … Okay, screw you guys, at least I think I’m funny)
4 letters.. F O R D
I bought a brand new F150 in 2013 and made the mistake of giving them my email address and cell phone number. Email spam I can handle, but several calls a day on my cell phone from different numbers, recorded message spam ranging from “this is your last warning that your car warranty is expiring”, tons of credit card offers, and “if you have at least 10k credit card debt we can help”.. etc… My “block number list” has hundreds of phone numbers on it.
I can’t believe Ford is that hard up to sell off their customer’s personal data, but evidently they are.
Point taken my friend…
If any of you think you are as internet savvy as ToyKeeper there is probably no real harm in putting your email address in a public forum.
However, if you do not have 1000 unique email addresses and a server setup with TK level protection please understand the risk involved with posting your email address in a public forum…
Indeed it is. I didn’t even know about that one before it was listed. Based on the communication drop, I can confirm that Simon is buried in work and emails…
Most decent email services are better than what I have set up. Ever looked in the spambox of a gmail account? They generally take care of all that noise automatically.
I’ve only kept my oldschool setup because I can’t help but tweak everything in reach, and I kinda like internet plumbing work. It’s not really a good thing. In the 1980s there were these computers called Lisp Machines, designed from the ground up to do absolutely everything in the Lisp language, an incredibly flexible and expressive language with no real abstraction ceiling limiting what it could do. The people who used these loved them, since they could customize literally everything about the software to their exact preferences and way of thinking. Each computer soon became an extension of its users. However, it also meant that each unit was incredibly personalized to the point that nobody else could use it. Each one basically spoke a different language than all the others.
That’s what I tend to do to almost everything I touch. It’s a bad habit.
Bumping my question
G'day mate, ow ya garn?
Yeah, nah good mate
Now I will have to order a dozen of this drivers…And mod some lights again
“The saddest aspect of life right now is that science gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom.” - Isaac Asimov
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured...the first thought forbidden...the first freedom denied – chains us all, irrevocably."
My reviews:
Sofirn SF36 /// Thorfire VG10S /// Sofirn C8F /// Zanflare F1
Nobody has one yet to compare. I have a XinTD C8 V4 XM-L2, but I don’t have a Convoy C8 yet. I plan on posting results after I get one though.
Both are very nice, but the Convoy C8 is a little bit shorter and has fancier firmware. Otherwise, I don’t really know any details.
Thanks ToyKeeper
D’oh….I can see how my original post reads now, I actually meant to say how does it compare on paper.
Looking forward to your results update
This Convoy looks impressive, nice job !
G'day mate, ow ya garn?
Yeah, nah good mate
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