[Review] Manker E11 XP-L AA/14500

Yeah, but it’s the same price, so…

In your beamshot the E11 looks to have wider spill than the Mi7, but this one says something totally different.

They both can’t be right…

The last picture (gif) is obviously crap or faked. The camera was likely set to auto-exposure, and the exposure time or other settings are completely different between the two images.

I completely disregard that gif image, unless the settings are detailed in full. Don’t believe it. And given that the photographer doesn’t know how to operate a camera, I wouldn’t be surprised if he also doesn’t know how to set the flashlights to max.

Actually in that comparative beemshot the spill of Mi7 is wider, just like in the gif.

It sure looks to me like the E11 is wider in the beamshot.

Anyway, my point was that nothing in the gif can be believed, without seeing the exif data from the image (and believing that the photographer isn’t faking something else, which I’m not even sure of, given the more believable beamshot comparison picture).

That gif is from review done by kj75, who does a lot of very competent reviews. There is always a possibility of mistake of course, but faking is definitely out of the question in this case.

Actually, he might be right. After looking closer it looks like it has a faint wide spill in the middle you can barely see in the picture.

Here is the same Klarus Mi7 review by kj75, where the animated gif comparison comes from, this time in English.

Well, maybe he knows his flashlights. But it doesn’t appear he knows how to use the manual settings on his camera.

I suppose it’s possible he got a bum E11 light, or a bum battery. But given the huge difference in his gif, compared to side-by-side beamshots, I think he left the camera on auto. Or perhaps he let the camera blow out some of the highlights or something. Anyway, something is definitely off about it.

Can anyone who has the 2 lights comment on the difference in throw between them …… I would have thought the Mi7 with the XP-L Hi would have a tighter hotspot and longer throw but I know that’s not the only contributing factor …. mainly interested in if one has a much better throw than the other???

I agree something looks very odd about this image, but the spill of Mi7 is wider on the beamshot comparison image also, so that itself is not the problem.

He says all camera settings are always on manual and always the same for every review. He also says the two images were shot one after another both with fresh batteries.

Okay, looking at the beamshots again, yes, I agree the Mi7 spill is wider, however it is very faint.

In any case, I think the gif images are very misleading. They imply the Mi7 is far brighter than the E11, which just isn’t the case. If he really did keep all the camera’s settings the same, then the scene topography is misleading the viewer. i.e., the scene is chosen to give a bonus to a light with a large, faint, spill.

I just thought about something else. What is the distance between camera and the flashlight mount? If it isn’t negligible, that would explain why flashlight with wider spill looks so much better in the image.

Good point. Also, you can tell by the shadows that the flashlight mounting point isn’t fixed.

Does this mean the E11 is brighter than the Mi7 on AA?

On AA (Eneloop Pro) batteries, E11 produces about 300 lumens for 60 minutes, while Mi7 produces about 160 lumens for 80 minutes. For the first 2-3 minutes E11 even produces 400 lumens.

I am a terrible photographer, and so I set all the parameters as indicated in the pics.
I can barely answer for my pics, can’t make judgement from pics took from other people.

Wanted a little more throw from my floody E11 so… for my first ever mod;
Using gasoline I de-domed the cool white led, now it has a warm tint… looks to be about 4500k. Have a cool white XP-L HI incoming, but kinda liking this tint.
Smoothed the reflector - green fine grit Scotch Brite pad to remove electroplating, 1200 - 4000 - 8000 grit 3M wet/dry sandpaper and a high speed drill, then Pinnacle Crystal Clear metal polished it with a Dremel.

Any way you could talk me through how to do this ? I ordered mine 3 days ago and hit the cool white by mistake rather then the NW … generally I prefer torches with more throw as well so this might sort 2 things at once … better throw and better tint???
I probably wouldn’t play with the reflector as wouldn’t have a clue what I was doing but of I could de-dome to give a tad more throw and better tint I’d probably give it a try!!!

De-dome info found here A Perfect Dedome?.