I try to use as much as possible, the excess is sold to the power company, for what it’s worth 6kw of panels over the year and the power company pay you about enough to fill the tank of an SUV twice, but as you say they don’t like it.
But I was thinking if it’s that cheap for solar or wind, and just from reading on here and other places there are clearly many people passionate about burning less fossil fuels and doing something about the issues we all face, would not a simple say 6kw panel set up - forgot battery storage or battery inverters,as you said far to expensive - something many could easily afford, no corporate involvement or waiting for things to change or politicians to act and a small step many could take to make a small different, you put up your solar pv panels or wind turbine, use what you can and feed the excess power back in to the grid for others to benifit from
Bullseye :+1: Our biggest problem is that the minority rich are the ones running the show for themselves and not for the majority who are not rich. It is only when the majority rule themselves that the majority can ascend to a better life. I’m not anti-capitalism but I am pro-society and what’s good for the majority wouldn’t really harm the rich, only lower their potential profit margins unless they’re investing in the people themselves. Then they would do good along with the people- a win/win.
Don’t lead me- I can think for myself and I will not follow. Don’t follow me- I may err and I don’t want to drag you down with me. Let’s just go along together helping each other do well instead.
In the end voters are the ones who choose bad leaders who give away the farm. If we want to do better its up to us to kick them out of office and hold them accountable
That may be the easy way, but it isn’t the right way. I don’t want a solar/wind friendly leader. I want leaders who are honest. I believe in living according to the truth. If solar and wind energy are truly better alternatives, honest leaders will be friendly to them. As for the assertion that solar/wind is cheaper than fossil fuels, I haven’t seen any proof of that. I’d be glad for somebody to show me the math. Fair warning though, I tend to be very skeptical and somewhat critical. I can only be convinced by hard facts, not marketing materials or emotional pleas to save the Earth. LED home lighting is not what I’d call good or economical, either. It could be made that way, but the stores in my area only sell junk in the range of what they call “affordable” which is still highly overpriced, even with our government subsidies! I’d love to convert my home to renewable energy, and use LEDs in all my home lighting, but I can’t afford it. Anybody willing to finance my conversion? I’ll repay you with what I’m now paying on my energy bills every month! If you really believe that this stuff is cheaper, then you should stand to make a huge profit!
You can, over here it’s sold in 1 gallon blue plastic bottles readily available in places that sell and service chainsaws, ride on mowers etc, forget what it’s called but it’s a 98 Ron unleaded gasoline, and is ment to be good for 10 years + not cheap though at $22 a gallon, but then it’s a limited/niece market so I quess they can charge what they like
It’s the ethonol in modern gasoline that causes it to have a very short shelf life, due to ethonols pertencerty to absorb water.
If you can find gasoline with no ethonol content it should have a long shelf life if stored correctly
I’d settle for neutral any day but with the money and access available to the oil lobby it isn’t. What price do you put on put on a few extra hurricanes or a dozen additional tornadoes. The power of these comes from heat energy stored in the oceans and atmosphere. Hard to measure and harder still to put a dollar cost to but without any doubt whatsoever the finger points solely and exclusively at fossil fuels. Spend some time critically thinking about that one.
Then there’s the cost in lives lost in the wars fought over this resource. The taxes spent on men and munitions don’t come from the pump. What do you call that kind of subsidy? I would shout for joy at real critical thinking. “It costs too much” is a total load. It isn’t free, nothing is, least of all gas.
Well, I don’t count wars because wars have been started for really stupid reasons. At least gasoline has value, so it’s logical to fight over it. Not condoning war, just saying that stupid people do stupid things, and I wouldn’t blame gasoline for that. I don’t see anybody calling to ban diamonds, gold, or Nike Air Jordans because of people killing for them. As for warming the oceans and such, I guess some people wouldn’t be happy in a tropical world, but I personally know some people that would be glad to never see winter again. (I happen to like snow and ice) I suppose I’m just a bit cynical because I see so many of the arguments about human-caused catastrophic climate change being debunked by the next scientist that studies the weather. I admit I don’t care enough to study it for myself. But, I still want better energy production resources, and good quality but cheap LED lighting, not to save the Earth, but to save my wallet!
No need. I’m not the kind of person who gets offended and deletes all his posts and runs off.
I understand that my opinions are sometimes odd. But, it’s actually very easy to get me to change my mind. Just present the facts to me. I always agree with facts when I get a chance. For instance, here’s a fact. You’re making carbon dioxide right now. Yes you, just by breathing, are polluting our atmosphere and contributing to catastrophic climate change! There are some crazy people pushing the climate change propaganda machine (not saying that it’s all propaganda, but there is a lot of it). If carbon dioxide gets the treatment some of those people think it deserves, you’ll have to have permission to breathe. That alone should make you wonder how much of the ‘science’ of climate change is real and how much of it is a figment of somebody’s imagination.
Show me real science and I will agree with it every time. But real science doesn’t ever have emotion attached to it. Real science doesn’t push people’s buttons. Real science just tells you what it sees and leaves you to decide what to think about that. In fact, real science never draws any final conclusions, for real science is always checking itself to see whether a better, more accurate conclusion may be forthcoming. I haven’t seen much in the way of real science from the climate change crowd yet. But, as I said before, I haven’t studied it myself. So it’s really a matter that I just don’t know. I’m definitely open to any unbiased scientific information that anybody wants to provide.
Here’s another thing to note. There are people on this Earth who, by nature, are inclined to emotional extremism, exaggeration, and alarmism. I don’t have anything against those people. I don’t think there’s something wrong with them, or that they need to calm down, take a chill pill, or whatever. On the contrary, I understand that the world needs people like that. They are usually the first ones to recognize danger coming, and call for action to prevent that danger. I’m not one of those people. I’m naturally inclined to be at the other end of the line. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that either.
