Wow. I just had to quote this for posterity sake.
No need. I’m not the kind of person who gets offended and deletes all his posts and runs off. 
I understand that my opinions are sometimes odd. But, it’s actually very easy to get me to change my mind. Just present the facts to me. I always agree with facts when I get a chance. For instance, here’s a fact. You’re making carbon dioxide right now. Yes you, just by breathing, are polluting our atmosphere and contributing to catastrophic climate change! There are some crazy people pushing the climate change propaganda machine (not saying that it’s all propaganda, but there is a lot of it). If carbon dioxide gets the treatment some of those people think it deserves, you’ll have to have permission to breathe. That alone should make you wonder how much of the ‘science’ of climate change is real and how much of it is a figment of somebody’s imagination.
Show me real science and I will agree with it every time. But real science doesn’t ever have emotion attached to it. Real science doesn’t push people’s buttons. Real science just tells you what it sees and leaves you to decide what to think about that. In fact, real science never draws any final conclusions, for real science is always checking itself to see whether a better, more accurate conclusion may be forthcoming. I haven’t seen much in the way of real science from the climate change crowd yet. But, as I said before, I haven’t studied it myself. So it’s really a matter that I just don’t know. I’m definitely open to any unbiased scientific information that anybody wants to provide.
Here’s another thing to note. There are people on this Earth who, by nature, are inclined to emotional extremism, exaggeration, and alarmism. I don’t have anything against those people. I don’t think there’s something wrong with them, or that they need to calm down, take a chill pill, or whatever. On the contrary, I understand that the world needs people like that. They are usually the first ones to recognize danger coming, and call for action to prevent that danger. I’m not one of those people. I’m naturally inclined to be at the other end of the line. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that either. 
Wow, when the facts aren’t what you like just pretend they don’t count. Huh?
Or you can always just change them to suit
— speechless —
If you are as open minded as you claim
https://thinkprogress.org/solar-low-price-record-68db04b796b3#.x73mfzu3v
+1
And one more:
http://blog.solarcity.com/how-much-land-would-it-take-to-power-the-u-s-with-solar-energy/
Thanks, Bort, I’ve learned a lot in the last hour reading those articles! 
Your welcome, you can spend many hours learning more about the renewable energy field, articles such as these give policy ideas on how to deal with challenges (though sometimes they can be over optimistic, trust but verify)
Following the daily articles on cleantechnica and thinkprogress is a good start, depending on your interests (solar, wind, distributed power, energy storage, lithium batteries, tidal power, energy efficient buildings (and retrofits), conservation and demand management, hydropower, policy and subsidies and much more) you can find and follow countless sources out there to learn more about these
An interesting article on the tanker industry Eschewing safety for profit margins. Changing flag registries when not able to pass inspections etc. but mostly about rust and how the industry is or isn’t dealing with it.
Wow, that is definitely interesting, too, and right along with a lot of what I’d already encountered which makes me so skeptical of ‘Global Warming’ aka ‘Climate Change’.
“Flag of Convenience” is a euphemism for near-slavery sometimes :rage: And even totally land-locked countries without a sea or connection to a sea are now in the “Flag” business. In the maritime world the least-seen flag is USA because our standards are some of the highest (along with the costs). It not just oilers but every ship.
But don’t worry- everything petroleum in the US is kept as minimal as they can get away with which is less than the law allows. Dangerous things only get fixed when the Government is about to shut them down, or when the cost of leaving it alone will exceed the cheapest patchwork repair possible that will get a government ‘pass’ so they can continue to feed the greedy stockholders who only care about profit margins 
Phil
>Telegraph … climate … booker
I won’t go into it here.
Stay skeptical. You can look this stuff up — that’s an old 2015 article.
You’ll find ample commentary about Booker if you look him up.
It really, really, shouldn’t become a discussion here. It’s fraught.
many vote to expand the harm because they choose to believe the government caused the danger
Most main media like NYT and Washington Post are no longer acting as journalists, They only pass out press releases from government or corporations without being examined.
I won’t go into that here either.
I recommend looking this stuff up; Google Scholar* (and even better, the librarian at the Reference Desk at your nearby public or college library).
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- empty your cache, block cookies, sign out of everything that tracks you first — evade the filter bubble that shows you more of what makes you want to click more.
Skepticism is good if applied equally to both sides of a discussion, otherwise you are just swallowing one side’s line instead of the other. I’m optimistic about our ability to solve problems but less so about our inclination to implement those solutions.
I am surprised that your response to a decrease in investigative journalism is “I won’t go into that here either”.
The * you wrote in itself deserves to be reported on more thoroughly and investigated. Is it little wonder that Snowden was forced to flee the country for his revelations of what the NSA is doing?
The Washington Post who printed and then won a Pulitzer Prize for their reporting on Snowden’s revelations has now written in an editorial calling for his prosecution. What a sham.
Well said RDB :+1: I’m a skeptic at heart but I can be convinced and learn. The one thing I can’t do is be led which is the proof-mark of a true skeptic :sunglasses: Only the led can be misled, so never follow anybody but yourself and be smart enough to be someone worth following
I’d love to see a cell/battery technology come along making home power generation easy, practical, safe, and cheap. So far we’ve got winners in each category but not all of them together, and without having them all you don’t yet have enough. Let’s keep looking though- skeptic or not I’d like to see it happen!
Phil
I think there will always be safety concerns but safer is better than not. More and more people are installing home generator systems and accidents do happen regardless of where the juice comes from. I would nust like to see as much attention paid to the costs and hazards of each rather than nickel and diming alternative energy while giving fossil fuels a free pass on so many collateral costs that don’t show up at the pump. A few years ago a natural gas pipeline through San Bruno blew an entire neighborhood killing several people. Safety already has more to do with conscientious maintenance and responsibility than hardware. I’d have no problem whatsoever with solar, a power wall, and a small hybrid truck (if I could find one) even with current technology. I’ve had my truck for 15 years and in that time put 260,000 miles on it with an average fuel cost of at least $3000 per year for a total of more than $45,000. Most of that time the cost of fuel was closer to $3.50 per gallon than $3(sometimes over $4)and the stuff inevitably costs more tomorrow than today. If it takes hybrid technology to span the mileage gap for a generation of vehicles then will somebody please build it into a small truck?