XP-L2

Hhmm. Never thought to try it. Can you get throw improvements and does heat and gas dedoming work like normal?

Boy, might just try it...

My biggest concern is whether the tint will still be good, or will it resemble the xp-g3 that I wasn’t all too impressed with.

I tried a XPL HI dedome using ZEP Aerosolve II, after 18 mins all around the phosphor loosened up, but the shiny surface coating of the phosphor looked rock solid. On an older XM-L2, Aerosolve II popped the dome off in 12 minutes. This is my first time testing dedoming with this stuff, so dunno all the details (testing the LED, etc.), but it's a big time saver and lot less odor than gasoline.

I'll try it in a tuff LED, like a XP-G3 or XPL V6 0D to see how it does, but doesn't sound like it will work on them.

On the new XP-L2, reviewing the specs is somewhat disappointing - rated lumens is slightly less than XP-L specs at all bins, plus still listing "only" V6 as the max bin. Lower Vf is darn nice though, and "temperature coefficient of voltage" looks improved, which I think that means under heat, it will have less loss of voltage, therefore more output.

I hope I am not the only one who notices that this is available in 90 CRI all the way up to 5000k

I’ll try it in a tuff LED, like a XP-G3 or XPL V6 0D to see how it does, but doesn’t sound like it will work on them.

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The V6 0D will give you heartburn. After 16 hours in Aerosolve it still showed a dome of material attached to the emitter. I have not tried an XP-G3.

All the way up to 6500K if you look further down the datasheet.

“flip-chip”, welding is more stable and lower cost, is a trend.

Most importantly, according to datasheet, XP-L2 is available with CRI 90+ in all CCT variants, even 6500K.

Lets hope we can have some high power 5000k 90+ cri emitters available to flashlight enthusiasts.

Careful look'n at those specs. I forgot where, but I think at Mouser, I went through all the available bin/tint offerings on the XP-G3, and this is also confirmed by offerings from other sources -- you pay the price in CRI for high bins, high output. The "tint" issue is getting more and more blurred. You can get high/max bin CREE LED's in neutral tints now, but the CRI is no better. Neutrals are available now in higher and lower CRI's, but the higher CRI's seem to always only be available only in lower bins.

You can't make assumptions anymore that warmer tints mean higher CRI - you have to carefully look at the full specs of the LED.

Should make for a more robust led able to tolerate the higher current attainable with lower Vf.

What is the average time between a Cree announcement of a new LED and when it starts to hit store shelves as a drop in?

Don’t know when I do a search in BLF why it doesn’t find this thread. This thread is the future :>)

With the XP-G3 it took only a month or so before Cutter started selling a few 70CRI versions. and it took 3 more months for the 90 CRI ones hit the market. So with the XP-L2 perhaps you can expect a very limited selection soon

The search function does weird things every now and then, some very interesting threads never show up, even you search for the title literally. I think in the Google search there is a huge priority for often visited/edited threads, so if the thread you search for is fairly new, or is not visited often, and has keywords that resemble those frequently visited threads, it is never found, or sometimes as far as at page xx of the search.

Interesting, I am sure most of us will try one or 2 but beyond that I will wait and see how they perform before diving in. Not a big fan of domed LED’s period honestly but also hate dedoming. So XP-L HI’s are what I use almost exclusively.

The thing that bugs me about that dome the most is the poor quality color blending. Every Cree LED made in the past 8 years has had better color blending around the edges than what XPG3 has. Lower VF will be nice though I suppose.

EDIT: In fact the color rendering period with XPG3 has been poor in my opinion. Even the high CRI neutrals to me don’t look nearly as good as equivalent emitters from another series.

I just ordered a few from Mouser …hopefully the tint isn’t crappy. :wink:

Mouser tint cant be trusted, i mailed them so many times about that issue i lost the count already

Those should be E3 area, 5k or something

Yet, 51 claimed kit - arriving 4500k or something, okay…
Then again E1 claimed- arriving 5000k prolly 3c ( measured)

Anyway, it should be v5, the price is good,

Dedoming those is a PAIN, i still havent got any good ones after

I’ve never been able to dedome a XP-L. I’ve only been successful with XM-L2s, XP-G2s, and XP-E2s.

Me too…
But all xp-l’s i tried are from the “new” xp-ls , with smaller dome .