Convoy S2+ SMO

everydaysurvivalgear · October 3, 2016, 3:09am

Wow shadow your still at school. Do not worry about what people think at school at the age of 13 i was building PCs and trying my hand at programming and i use to take PC mags to read every day people would laugh but i came first in IT without even trying lol! I got over school and my attendance was 50% and i still topped most my classes. So who had the last laugh!

Also had issue so if any one said any thing id knock em out! But like we get like that i have 3 brothers we still argue now lol.

ZozzV6 · October 3, 2016, 7:03am

I ordered one after it released. but haven’t arrived yet. I only have S2+ to compare but I will compare with S2+ OP reflector and with XM-L2, XP-L and XP-L HI leds when it arrives.

Tangra · October 3, 2016, 9:10am

EasyB:

Regarding what determines throw from a reflector:
Reflector width vs depth for throw?

Essentially it is the area of the reflector (while looking at it from the front) that determines throw. Whether the reflector is shallow or deep is not critical to the peak intensity of the beam. However, shallower reflectors tend to have a larger hole in the center, which reduces the effective reflecting area. An OP texture does reduce throw, depending on how rough the texture is (the texture reduces the effective reflecting area because some parts will not reflect light from the LED into the hotspot) . Also, OP texture affects throw relatively more for small emitters than for large emitters.

Here are some numbers that I have measured, all with XPL HI V2 3D with FET driver and fresh 30Q.
S2+ OP reflector: 15kcd
S2 OP reflector: 18kcd
S2 SMO reflector: 23kcd
narrow optic from LEDDNA: 21.8kcd

I would expect the SMO S2+ reflector with the same LED to be in between the S2 SMO and S2 OP reflector, around 20kcd.

What about S2 SMO reflector whit dedomed XP-G2? How many candella to expect.

ZozzV6 · October 3, 2016, 9:36am

Right now I got it. I will make some tests and photos in a few days when I have time for it

WillyD · October 3, 2016, 10:21am

Excellent. Looking forward to your results.

Woytas · October 3, 2016, 11:36am

Me too!

ZozzV6 · May 10, 2017, 1:08pm

I made a little test stand with a 1050mA NANJG 105C driver a clicky switch, some wires and the three leds, a heatsink, and some connectors to quick change the leds between beamshots
I used XM-L2 dont know bin but maybe 1A tint, XPL V5 2A and XPL HI V5 3B leds.
Here are some photos of the reflectors and testing enviroment:

And here are the final beamshots:

teacher · October 3, 2016, 10:42pm

That is a nice little test setup you made ‘ZozzV6’…I like that.

Those are some interesting photos also. Thanks for posting.

MRsDNF · October 3, 2016, 11:03pm

Thanks Zozz. Whats your personal opinion on the differences between the two reflectors?

vwpieces · October 3, 2016, 11:26pm

Very cool Zozz, thank you Sir.

Today I received one each SMO for the S2 and S2+
My SMO S2 has the smaller hole. Didn’t open the packs yet.
New FW 7135*8 drivers too.

I am unable to see pics 4, 5, 10 & 11

mattlward · October 4, 2016, 12:35am

I got 2 of these in today as well. Quickly put one in one of my S2+’s with an XP-L HI. These rock, we are not talking C8… but a FET driven XP-L HI really throws for a small light! I get one large ring on the edge of the beam, but out side it will not be noticed!

These are a huge improvement and will make for an excellent option in you EDC if you want some throw!

Thanks Simon!

WillyD · October 4, 2016, 1:49am

Thanks for the updates. I’d really like to know how it compares to the S2 SMO.

mattlward · October 4, 2016, 2:18am

My S2 is a triple, can’t help with that comparison.

mattlward · October 4, 2016, 2:39am

Ok, can’t do any pics in town tonight… but the S2+ with a FET driver, Hoop pill and XP-L Hi will light 90 foot tall tree tops at a block + away from my house! I am loving these reflectors.

mattlward · October 10, 2016, 1:40am

Does mouseover still work? I do not have the tree icon and the normal and advanced editors do not seem to have the option for the second image???

Finally got to take a few pics this weekend.
Here we have a Convoy S2+ with an OP reflector and XM-L2 4C

And here we have the new SMO reflector in an S2+ with a 5A2 XPL-HI. Notice the nice strong hotspot? It did gain a ring on the edge of the spill, if you are wall hunting, but not really visible outside. I really like this new reflector!

I am also adding my Olight S1R with stock TIR and XM-L2 4C.

ZozzV6 · October 10, 2016, 2:09am

The SMO has tighter hotspot definietly. And not much corona as the OP. For indoor use I prefer the OP. But I don’t tried with XPL HI outdoor. Son I will get my Convoy M1 and want to compare with it.

mapache · October 10, 2016, 2:23am

I really like the looks of the SMO reflector in those pictures. It looks to have a far brighter hotspot and judging by the power line it seems to have better spill too.

How much of the beam profile do you think is related to the XPL-HI and how much to the SMO reflector, I’m guessing it’s a combination . Any chance you have beamshots of an XM-L2 with the SMO?

ZozzV6 · October 10, 2016, 2:27am

Roll a little upward. I did it. But if you want outdoor photos sorry

mapache · October 10, 2016, 3:12am

Thanks, I saw those. Yes, I’m interested in outdoor comparison photos.

mattlward · October 10, 2016, 4:45am

I was a little surprised at the amount of spill it did produce, but that reflector is very shallow.

The only other S2+ that I have with an XM-L2 is only driven by 6 7135’s and currently has a 10 degree TIR, the one I used for these pics is my 18350 EDC with an OP reflector. I would expect a similar beam profile with a somewhat larger hotspot. If I get a chance 2 weekends from now, I will convert it and post a photo. I think I like the XM-L2 for in the house but for general use this one is a winner!