Convoy S2+ SMO

My S2 is a triple, canā€™t help with that comparison.

Ok, canā€™t do any pics in town tonightā€¦ but the S2+ with a FET driver, Hoop pill and XP-L Hi will light 90 foot tall tree tops at a block + away from my house! I am loving these reflectors.

Does mouseover still work? I do not have the tree icon and the normal and advanced editors do not seem to have the option for the second image???

Finally got to take a few pics this weekend.
Here we have a Convoy S2+ with an OP reflector and XM-L2 4C

And here we have the new SMO reflector in an S2+ with a 5A2 XPL-HI. Notice the nice strong hotspot? It did gain a ring on the edge of the spill, if you are wall hunting, but not really visible outside. I really like this new reflector!

I am also adding my Olight S1R with stock TIR and XM-L2 4C.

The SMO has tighter hotspot definietly. And not much corona as the OP. For indoor use I prefer the OP. But I donā€™t tried with XPL HI outdoor. Son I will get my Convoy M1 and want to compare with it.

I really like the looks of the SMO reflector in those pictures. It looks to have a far brighter hotspot and judging by the power line it seems to have better spill too.

How much of the beam profile do you think is related to the XPL-HI and how much to the SMO reflector, Iā€™m guessing itā€™s a combination . Any chance you have beamshots of an XM-L2 with the SMO?

Roll a little upward. I did it. But if you want outdoor photos sorry :wink:

Thanks, I saw those. Yes, Iā€™m interested in outdoor comparison photos.

I was a little surprised at the amount of spill it did produce, but that reflector is very shallow.

The only other S2+ that I have with an XM-L2 is only driven by 6 7135ā€™s and currently has a 10 degree TIR, the one I used for these pics is my 18350 EDC with an OP reflector. I would expect a similar beam profile with a somewhat larger hotspot. If I get a chance 2 weekends from now, I will convert it and post a photo. I think I like the XM-L2 for in the house but for general use this one is a winner!

Wow the difference is huge! Makes me seriously consider trying to assemble one with XP-L HI like yours once the new firmware appears on the stock S2+. Carry a TIR and you also have a hotspot-free light for close-up work. Both smaller than a zoomie :D

I have now set up the XP-L Hi with an 18350 tube and dropped it into my EDC rotation along with the XM-L2 that was already an 18350 light. I think this is a great combo.

Hello!

Sorry if this is a bit off-topic but, now that this S2/S2+ topic is hot, I thought it could be a nice place to ask this question.

I am deeply overhauling a zoomie host which has about twice the surface area of an S2. Using a deeply modified version of this good ol' driver, I've decided to keep the maximum driving current at ā‰ˆ4'2A with the addition of a couple of R033s to the sensing resistor stack, mainly because I'm shooting for a normal person to be able to operate the torch in medium mode without much discomfort.

Therefore, my question is as follows: Is it more or less comfortable to operate an S2/S2+ host in high with a 2'1A driver?

Thanks.

Cheers ^:)

One of my EDC S2+ā€™s has a 6*7135 driver, so 2.1 amps. It gets warm, but will not burn you by any stretch. 2.1 amps puts out more than most would need for an EDC, but is there when you need it.

Thanks, but donā€™t worry if itā€™s not something you want to test for yourself. Iā€™ll buy a SMO reflector and see how I like it.

I hate to take the lights apart, over and overā€¦ always a chance to break something. I really hate it when an EDC lets me down!

saw the S2+ SMO on banggood today, couple bucks.

Thanks. Iā€™ll grab a couple on my next order. I think we need a comparison with S2+ OP, S2+ SMO, and S2 SMO, but all with same setup and emitter. I personally donā€™t think there is gonna be much difference between the S2+ reflectors.

I just took these two pics in my backyardā€¦ the light is a stock Convy S2+ with an XML U2 and 6*7135 - first image is the SMO, second is the OP. It is hard to tell in the crappy photos, but the SMO does illuminate the distant cacti a little better, but for walking around the desert at night I will take the OP

SMO

OP

For throw the S2 reflector is going to be better without a doubt. Even the OP version of the S2 will be a significant improvement simply because it is so much deeper.

The best throwing reflector setup I have found for the tube lights is actually the S6 reflector as it is designed for an XP sized LED and has the tightest hot spot beating even the SMO S2 reflector in my tests. My tests were all with an XP-L HI LED.

Now I did get a bit more throw out of a properly focused TIR lens in an S2+ but that is still being dialed in.

Overall the S2+ SMO is a great upgrade and combined with the XP-L HI it will make for an improved hot spot in the tiny reflector. Well worth the few bucks for those that prefer SMO reflectors.

I thought the reflectors were same in the S2 and S6??? At least that was what Simon told me. The SMO that I have in my S2 (bought from Simon) is designed for a XP sized LED too.

For throw, no question the SMO and OP reflector for the S2 will be much better. But the spill in the S2+ OP reflector is significantly larger.

The S2 OP reflector is setup for an XM LED, at least on the ones I got from fasttech awhile back. The S6 is setup for an XP. It makes sense, he sells the S2 with an XM-L2.

The SMO reflectors might have been setup for an XP actually, been awhile since I messed with them.

Looking back over my numbers the S6 OP reflector did beat the S2 SMO reflector in throw slightly but it had a bit less OTF lumens. This suggests a slight change in focus point and as such the results should not be treated as being 100% accurate.

Basically the difference between them is too close to call.

You will indeed get more spill with the S2+ reflector, this is part of why I prefer TIRā€™s now days, you trade spill for a larger more intense hot spot. I find this is more useful for me to be able to clearly see a larger area then kinda see a massive area. Everyone has their preference though.