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pilotdog68 wrote:
Tonight I received my first lux meter.

So, what meter did you purchase? I’ve got a tab up with an HS1010A from Banggood in my cart.

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I ordered that same one from Banggood, but it showed backordered. So I cancelled it and ordered the same one from a US seller on eBay

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I have that one too. Works fine. No problem.

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So what about your L2, PD? Did charging up the battery help? I think you should see at least 150 kcd, even 200+ kcd is possible with high binned XP-L HI.

The XP-L HI in that L2 isn’t that hard to focus properly. I’ve done it three times. The first time I raised the emitter by soldering a copper disc underneath the MCPCB, but for the last two I went without that, but achieved the same well focused result.

For a L2 with dedomed XP-G2 I had to raise the emitter as well, that one was much more a PITA to focus as the XP-L HI.

I have another L2 that I wanted to build up for a friend (XP-G2 dedomed + FET-Driver), but ran out of FET drivers, so I put a sliced XP-E2 @2,1A in there, just for fun. Now that is a pencil beam. Since it was just for fun and won’t stay like that, I didn’t fiddle around with focus too much, probably should though, to see what it’s good for…

So now, I have three L2’s, one with XP-L HI, one with dedomed XP-G2, one with the sliced XP-E2. However, I’ll keep just one, still have to decide which. Would have posted beamshots that compare the three, but have only two working tail-caps right now, since one is in the progress of beeing converted to a reverse clicky. Not as easy as it sounds! I really dislike the stock forward switches, fried three out of five during the usual bypass operation.

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The cell in the L2 was a lot lower than I thought: 3.6v. I didn’t have time to let it charge last night so I’ll test it again tonight. I’ve been considering moving to dedomed XP-G2 in it, after these readings I might give it a shot.

I thought for sure my Courui would be above 300kcd, and I know the cells are for sure over 4v in that one. The focus being bad is the only thing I can think of.

That’s what I was worried with getting a meter, that it would make me unhappy with lights I previously enjoyed. For that reason I don’t think I’ll make a sphere or pipe. I mainly wanted the meter to measure before/after for the upcoming TM16 mod.

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Haha, expect no wonders with the cell at 3.6V. I think with a good charged one you’ll have a reading that is much more towards 200kcd…

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Pd before changing something , measure the amperage draw . If it draws enough amps , then it’s a focus issue Wink

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Well I still can’t decide what I like better in an L2, the dedomed XP-G2 with more lux or the XP-L HI with more lumen and better tint. I’d say the XP-L HI is more practical in use. The sliced XP-E2 is funny and maybe cool to have that kind of reach @ 2,1A, but not practical at all. One day I had a fox lit up maybe 200-300 ft away, I had to hold that light soooo steady just to keep him inside the beam… Dedomed XP-G2 is somewhere in between, but compared to the sliced XP-E2, even the dedomed XP-G2 is so much more practical.

I hear you on the measuring stuff, PD. I don’t like to measure the heck out of my lights, I simply like em or I don’t, don’t care much about numbers.

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D01 with xp-g2 should be well over 300kcd. I measured mine at 305kcd and it is running dedomed xml2 u2 driven at ~5A.

I recently ordered Noctigon XP32 boards, would love to see what numbers will D01 give me with dedomed xp-g2, if i find a good one.

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What do you guys think of the TM16 numbers? Do you think I need to adjust all of my numbers up, or is the TM16 just under-performing?

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  • Nitecore TM16 – 105kcd – Stock (Nitecore rates 122.5kcd)
  • Solarstorm SP03 – 236kcd – Dedomed XM-L2’s, FET
  • Courui D01 – 231kcd – Poorly focused dedomed XP-G2, FET
  • Brinyte B158 – 230kcd – Dedomed XP-G2, FET
  • Convoy L2 – 130kcd – Low-bin (possibly poorly focused) XP-L HI, FET
  • Thorfire S70 – 99kcd – Shaved stock XHP-70, resistor mod ~9amps
  • Jacob A60 – 93kcd – Dedomed XP-G2, dirty lens, FET
  • EagleEye X6R – 14.4kcd – Dome-on Triple XM-L2, FET
  • EagleEye X2R – 8.8kcd – Low-bin XP-L HI, FET
  • Convoy S8 – 6.9kcd – Dedomed XP-L and dedomed XP-G2, frosted narrow optic, FET
  • Thorfire TG06 – 4.4kcd – Nichia 219c, 2.2amp driver
  • Olight S15R – 1.8kcd – Warm XM-L2, stock driver.

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Pretty close to what I got. 111kcd. The TM16 utilizes direct drive for turbo so it’s heavily dependent on cells.

It might have been over 120 before the limiting voltage thing.

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unknown00101 wrote:
Pretty close to what I got. 111kcd. The TM16 utilizes direct drive for turbo so it’s heavily dependent on cells.

It might have been over 120 before the limiting voltage thing.


I thought they would be using a fancier driver I guess. I’ll charge them up and try it again too. I need more chargers apparently

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BobbyMK wrote:
D01 with xp-g2 should be well over 300kcd. I measured mine at 305kcd and it is running dedomed xml2 u2 driven at ~5A.

I recently ordered Noctigon XP32 boards, would love to see what numbers will D01 give me with dedomed xp-g2, if i find a good one.

Using original (stock) reflector ?

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giorgoskok wrote:
BobbyMK wrote:
D01 with xp-g2 should be well over 300kcd. I measured mine at 305kcd and it is running dedomed xml2 u2 driven at ~5A.

I recently ordered Noctigon XP32 boards, would love to see what numbers will D01 give me with dedomed xp-g2, if i find a good one.

Using original (stock) reflector ?

Yes, stock reflector but i might be wrong about the current because it is direct driven, no driver at all, so it might be higher. At the time of the test i had three 25R’‘s in it, ive seen that same led pull just over 5A from a single cell, so with 3 in parallel there might be a bit more juice delivered to the led.

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My TM16 is making 109.75Kcd, essentially stock… I didn’t change anything on the driver, still has the NW (on the warm side of NW) emitters, but I used 18ga Turnigy leads throughout, in place of the 20ga they used.

So I’d say you’re in the ballpark.

I’m using fresh charged LG HE-2 Button Tops.

Direct Drive for Turbo? Where does that info come from? I see an R010 sense resistor on the driver… mine tests out at a bit over 4100 lumens.

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BobbyMK wrote:
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BobbyMK wrote:
D01 with xp-g2 should be well over 300kcd. I measured mine at 305kcd and it is running dedomed xml2 u2 driven at ~5A.

I recently ordered Noctigon XP32 boards, would love to see what numbers will D01 give me with dedomed xp-g2, if i find a good one.

Using original (stock) reflector ?

Yes, stock reflector but i might be wrong about the current because it is direct driven, no driver at all, so it might be higher. At the time of the test i had three 25R’‘s in it, ive seen that same led pull just over 5A from a single cell, so with 3 in parallel there might be a bit more juice delivered to the led.

As djozz explained me :
http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1027012#comment-1027012

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giorgoskok wrote:
BobbyMK wrote:

Yes, stock reflector but i might be wrong about the current because it is direct driven, no driver at all, so it might be higher. At the time of the test i had three 25R’‘s in it, ive seen that same led pull just over 5A from a single cell, so with 3 in parallel there might be a bit more juice delivered to the led.

As djozz explained me :
http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1027012#comment-1027012

Yeah, tested it, three 25R’s @ 4.19V = 5.7A at the tail, so there it is, it is more than 5A.

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DB Custom wrote:
My TM16 is making 109.75Kcd, essentially stock… I didn’t change anything on the driver, still has the NW (on the warm side of NW) emitters, but I used 18ga Turnigy leads throughout, in place of the 20ga they used.

So I’d say you’re in the ballpark.

I’m using fresh charged LG HE-2 Button Tops.

Direct Drive for Turbo? Where does that info come from? I see an R010 sense resistor on the driver… mine tests out at a bit over 4100 lumens.


Probably misremembered DD.

Max did a really nice write up on the TM16.
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/40740

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With the lumens Nitecore quotes (4000), Turbo is probably like 2.8amps per emitter. It still could be susceptible to a tenth of a volt or two.

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My only remaining Courui D01 also uses 25R’s, it’s making 545Kcd with an XP-L HI for 1476.48M throw.

Not liking myself for selling the SBT-70 D01.

(gotta see if I can tweak it for that remaining 436 feet to make a mile. Big Smile LG HE-4’s will probably do it. Wink )

Edit: Best is actually from Efest 35A’s in this light, at 557.5Kcd for 1493.32M. Still some 381 feet shy of that elusive mile. Oh well.

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DB Custom wrote:
My only remaining Courui D01 also uses 25R’s, it’s making 545Kcd with an XP-L HI for 1476.48M throw.

Not liking myself for selling the SBT-70 D01.

(gotta see if I can tweak it for that remaining 436 feet to make a mile. Big Smile LG HE-4’s will probably do it. Wink )

Lol…you made someone a very happy camper though. You were able to spread your joy elsewhere. My edc has been the X5 since I received it and it probably will be for a long time.

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DB Custom wrote:
My only remaining Courui D01 also uses 25R’s, it’s making 545Kcd with an XP-L HI for 1476.48M throw.

Not liking myself for selling the SBT-70 D01.

(gotta see if I can tweak it for that remaining 436 feet to make a mile. Big Smile LG HE-4’s will probably do it. Wink )

545kcd using xp-l hi ? Sweet .

Also , anyone using the 86mm KD reflector in his D01 ?

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DB Custom wrote:
My only remaining Courui D01 also uses 25R’s, it’s making 545Kcd with an XP-L HI for 1476.48M throw.

Not liking myself for selling the SBT-70 D01.

(gotta see if I can tweak it for that remaining 436 feet to make a mile. Big Smile LG HE-4’s will probably do it. Wink )


How did you focus your D01 for that throw?
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I cheated unknown. The “Big Head” Courui is now the Mega Fat Head Courui. Big Smile

153mm Seanna optic.

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DB Custom wrote:
I cheated unknown. The “Big Head” Courui is now the Mega Fat Head Courui. Big Smile

153mm Seanna optic.

Ohh i remember now Evil

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Shame Shame Shame. Wink Silly

I need to tweak mine. It was such a pain for me to mod it when I finally got it all together and properly centered I just left it. Low 200kcd’s iirc. Really disappointing for a FET XPL-HI in a Courui D01.

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