FandyFire HD2010, looks like will be 26650 compatible

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I just requested that this light be on the Deal extreme offers page for a discount. So keep an eye out! Ya never know. Others should do the same. There are enough of us on blf that we can request certain sku's and they will see what is in demand. The sku for this fandyfire hd2010 is 107154

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Hikelite wrote:

 

Buy a luxmeter, measuring the tail cap current tells only one part of the story.

How much is a luxmeter? Which affordable one is decent?

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Can someone post some pic of the pill and driver etc, please.

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What diameter is driver Smile

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Night Breaker wrote:

Hikelite wrote:

 

Buy a luxmeter, measuring the tail cap current tells only one part of the story.

How much is a luxmeter? Which affordable one is decent?

This is a popular model, owned by many : http://www.dealextreme.com/p/digital-lux-meter-with-stand-200000lux-5100

With a luxmeter you will always measure the output, and how the reflector and the glass come into play. Tailcap currents are relative, the multimeter's resistance, leads resistance, driver efficiency, etc.  The glass can cut even 10% of the lux, at that point approximating the throw and the brightness on the tailcap currents is not accurate at all.

Also, it can show 4A on the multimeter but if the driver has a 75% efficiency that's is 3A to the LED.

 

 

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Driver side of pillOkay, some dimensions.

On the emitter side (above), the OD of the pill appears to be approximately 32mm, and it looks like it screws in from the top. I think this side has a lip that seats on a ledge on the inside body of the head. The board on the top has an approximate size of 15mm. This was taken as a rough measurement across the white disc covering the emitter board.

Driver sideOn the driver side (above), the driver appears to have an approximate size of 17mm, but this measurement was taken from the OD of the aluminum ring that appears to be holding the drop in in place from the underside of this pill. The indents on this ring are not very deep, so screwing it off might be problematic for me unless I deepen them. Yes, that little scratch is evidence of my one short attempt at screwing this off to get a look at the inside.

As can be seen from the markings, the driver board is marked East-092B. The pill from this underside is approximately 29mm in diameter (maybe the threads add another 1mm?).

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Driver side of pillOkay, some dimensions.

On the emitter side (above), the OD of the pill appears to be approximately 32mm, and it looks like it screws in from the top. I think this side has a lip that seats on a ledge on the inside body of the head. The board on the top has an approximate size of 15mm. This was taken as a rough measurement across the white disc covering the emitter board.

Driver sideOn the driver side (above), the driver appears to have an approximate size of 17mm, but this measurement was taken from the OD of the aluminum ring that appears to be holding the drop in in place from the underside of this pill. The indents on this ring are not very deep, so screwing it off might be problematic for me unless I deepen them. Yes, that little scratch is evidence of my one short attempt at screwing this off to get a look at the inside.

As can be seen from the markings, the driver board is marked East-092B. The pill from this underside is approximately 29mm in diameter (maybe the threads add another 1mm?).

According to the DX site this light is driven at 2.3A. I'd like to see how a Cutter U2 1C driven at 4.2A would perform in this host. If it is 2.3A run times with a King Kong should be good.

Reflector is 52mm wide and 38mm deep. It appears very clean and shiny (mirror-like). The glass lens does not have an o-ring.

Most of my other lights have better overall finishes than this host. But I'm not a good judge in this area as some of you others are. But I know the finish on my MCU-C88 appears flawless, as does my SkyRay SR3800, in comparison, so I suspect that you guys would rate this as a mediocre but adequate finish -- there are a handful of very tiny chips on several places on the finish in lip/edge areas of the body, head and tailcap, but nothing that makes me sad...

Reverse switch clicking seems solid enough. (I don't own a forward clicky light).

Threads came clean and dry. Cleaned them and added GB Oxgard as this is now my routine on my lights.

In the field the light worked flawlessly. No flickering (this makes me happy). The hotspot is very bright and throws far. Inner corona not so prominent as compared to my MCU-C88 or TF-R2, but the overall spill is a little larger than these two lights. The HD2010 exhibits about the same wide spill as a typical P60 light, which is a small plus in my book.

H-M-L appear well-spaced (to my untrained eyes anyway), the strobe seems extremely nasty (as you'd probably expect), and SOS is a complete waste (as everyone knows). I didn't even notice it does not have memory until I read a product description. I guess I'm okay with no memory as long as it reverts back to high...

I think this light is well worth $35, and actually I don't think it "needs" an upgrade to U2 LED. It performs well enough as is. It is a powerful, compact searchlight.

But keep in mind that this is the opinion of someone who does not own a 2x18650 thrower light. I'm focusing on compact 1x26650 and 1x18650 designs...

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Hikelite wrote:

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Let's hope this is a great thrower, i like it being compact. 

Is it worth buying a charger and 26500 instead of using 18650?

With KingKongs for example you know that you get over 4000mAh even on a 10A discharge. So, yes you get better runtimes and the cells can deliver high currents if you need that now or in the future. For the price you can almost say that you have 2 x 18650 cells in one.

 

What charger do you have, any charger can charge 26650 cells with you use some wires and a couple of magnets.

I have a tr003p4 http://www.manafont.com/product_info.php/trustfire-multifunction-liion-b...

 

 
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I have a tr003p4 http://www.manafont.com/product_info.php/trustfire-multifunction-liion-b...

I to not have the TR003, but you probably may apply the sample technique as yavi with his TR01 http://budgetlightforum.com/node/6116#comment-99107

Or you can use 2 wires that on each end have a small magnet. A red wire for the positive end and a black one for the negative end.

Like these: http://martinwhite.name/images/February_04_2011/thumb/web/IMG_5955.JPG

So you would use an extender practically, from the contacts in the charger to the contacts on the battery.

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Dammit, another host that I might have to buy and mod.  I'm really impressed by the throw compared to the C88. Thanks for the pictures Night Breaker!

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Dammit, another host that I might have to buy and mod.  I'm really impressed by the throw compared to the C88. Thanks for the pictures Night Breaker!

Don't forget that the C88 here was modded with an XM-L and was not a standard XR-E Q5 C88.   Given this is it that surprising that the XM-L light with the huge reflector size advantage, the 2010, walked all over the other XM-L light, the C88?

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I got this flashlight. Smile

 

Some measures:

>5,5A !!! (more pressure on battery = more Ampere)

@1m = 38000 Lux

Reflector (outer size: 58x38)

Lens 58

26650 fits

Body: 160 x 63

 

After modding:

XM-L U2 1C on copper base

3,74A Driver 2-Mode (KD 7135 V2 driver with 2 extra 7135)

Contact tuning at driver and clicky (bypass springs with wires)

@1m = 50000 Lux

 

Problem was, that the 7135 driver was too high and don´t fit.

I take a brass ring and pressed that in the pill, then i could solder the driver in.

 

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Wow! Big Smile

And 38K candela in stock form. Hmm. I need to get a HD2010 + 2 king kong + charger.

Thank you guys for doing all this reporting. I have been looking for a 1 cell, large reflector thrower and this fits the bill!

@ Andi

Did you measure Amps in other than high mode?? And what about overall quality of the light?

 

Thank you in advance.

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I got 2 lights, the other has 32000Lux....the lens and LED was really dirty.

At this light i only chanched the LED (XM-L U2 1C on copper) and bypass springs, now it has also 50000 Lux.

 

The >5,5A i measured with Solarforce battery, with XTAR i measure "only" ~3,5A.

With SF i get a short time 58000 Lux, but goes to 50000 Lux very fast.

With XTAR it´s 50000 Lux.

 

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My visacard just flexed.... It is trembling.

Another question: The U2 bin XML on copper - is that the one from ledtech.de ? (As far as I remember) that you wrote about in another thread (I found the best U2 you wrote - or somthing to that effect)

And a third - could you show a picture of the "bypass" operation on the springs? Is that "just" a matter of getting some copper wick/wire soldered to the top and the switch?

Thank you for your time Andi, it is really nice of you to share with us all like this :bigsmile:

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It´s the U2 from LED-Tech, yes. (middle of the LED is directly soldered on the copper base)

 

With "bypass springs" i mean, i solder a wire directly on the board and the other end on top of the spring, or directly to the brass plug.

Gives max. Ampere without squeeze the spring and with lower Volts the Ampere also higher.

 

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I just have received my Ultrafire HD 2010, and I'm quite happy with it. Overall quality looks good, threads are smooth but need some oil.

Colour is titanium grey, which looks great. I have ordered it at Tmart, packaging was ok, no damage.

I will get some Sony US26650VT LI-Mn for the DH2010. 

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My HD2010 had much little scratches and dents, most around the bezel and tailcap.

Now, after some sandpapers....

hd1

hd2

....it looks more expensive. Smile

 

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Thanks all of you for your information and Pics.

I ordered from DX but for many days It's still "Backorder" so I canceled Cry

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Ultrafire has now also a HD2010: HERE Wink

 

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Cool!  Anyone know anything about Easylightbuy.com?  I also found this Ultrafire version at shenzhen-wholesale.com.  Think I will stick with the Fandyfire version.

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EDIT:

could not insert thumbnails, so here's the link to the gallery

http://www.abload.de/gallery.php?key=j5qmabJF

and just a few close-up pics:

With the sony LI-Mn 26650 works great, more then 6 amps maximum. I have to check, if this is healthy for the flashlight... maybe I get a better driver. It seems to be DD on full power. There are three minor scratches, two of them are hard to see.

with a fresh sony 26650, I have measured about 6,6 amps, I think in real life with tailcap it draws less amps (resistance of switch, spring etc). I will see if I get an other driver.

With a half full battery, after 25 mins. tailstand the flashlight didn't got very hot (about 30 deg. C). the battery doesn't get very warm like that.

the 26650 has a capacity of about 2600 mah (last charge with 1,8a). at about 2,8v, it gets darker, and at about 2,74v it switched off. so for a Li-Mn, that's safe (min. 2,5v). But this is just a first look, will have to test more.

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So is the 3x XML light from beamtech any good? $50 shipped seems like a decent price. I am looking to get my first multi-led light. Its hard to tell in this thread which light is being talked about in which post sometimes. I don't think 1 X 18650 could really power a 3 x XML light could it?

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motodeficient wrote:

So is the 3x XML light from beamtech any good? $50 shipped seems like a decent price. I am looking to get my first multi-led light. Its hard to tell in this thread which light is being talked about in which post sometimes. I don't think 1 X 18650 could really power a 3 x XML light could it?

Probably not, but with a 26650 it might. 

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sorry, but could somebody tell me how to insert pics from a host like upload? thanks florian

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Click on the little tree box next to the anchor, and paste your image url into the first line.

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ok thanks, added pics. 

btw, I am really happy with it, it has a good size, and the overall-quality seems ok so far. 

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Now i have my own brand HD2010:

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Does anyone know the dimensions of the reflector and the lens? It might be good host for a 66mm aspheric lens.

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