That fake XM-L2 from Gearbest is a new level of lying to customers. It handles about a bare emitter, the description mentions ‘Cree XM-L2’ and the tell-tale dotpattern is not shown in the pictures (the clear picture above is jorge’s own picture). 100% deception of customers!
Shame on Gearbest!
I happened to buy that item some time ago and the holes are arranged in diagonal and the connection to the small wires are round as far as i can tell on the one i got. Somewhere in the supply chain somebody must have switched suppliers afterwards to a cheaper one, Gearbest may not know they are selling a fake xm-l2.
The difference is very subtle, if you are not looking for it you would not find it.
For most people, square yellow thing that doesn’t look like a 5mm led = Cree.
I bought previously this led in GB, if before were 100% genuine, but no longer :rage:
Is it often better to jump in on at least some of these group buys or other releases ASAP to have a better chance of actually receiving what was reviewed or promised and not a fake or poorer quality LED/light overall?
I ask this due to my not even questioning whether some GB LEDs are genuine or at least performing ‘close to’ such due to so many eyes publicly on the quality issue all at once.
My more pessimistic/realistic side tends to gravitate more towards jorgefrty’s experience above involving perhaps simply chumming the water.
At the end they return the money to paypal, or with gb points
I reported the item just now and linked to the post with the fake XM-L2 picture.
I don’t think Gearbest sells fakes on purpose.
Do not Ask why after notify that they are not genuine,
they still sell them as Cree?
Because they are just good to collect money.
So they are happy to continue.
Plus many people that don’t recognize fake give them 5 stars on comments
I didn’t realise there were so many fake LEDs out there. Never thought about checking the torches I bought a couple of years ago. Just had a look at the ones in the torches and the ones in the bike light I recently purchased. I’m guessing they are fakes.
Yep, they are fakes.
Although I ran a test on the Latticebright “XM-L” recently, the results were not nearly as bad as I expected. Particularly when you consider that the die is an XP-G2 sized die and thus should be compared to an XP-G2.
Not Genuine Cree quality by any means though.
Yeah I thought they were fake as soon as I saw a picture of the Latticebright LEDs. If I hadn’t ripped apart the battery pack that came with the new light I ordered I’d consider sending it back but too late now.
Still happy with the light from it though. I don’t know how they compare to a proper Cree LED but it’s good enough for what I want.
Being the flashlight guy, everybody wants to give me flashlights. This past Christmas, a friend gifted me a light, which turned out to be a Boruit RJ-3000. I’m actually quite happy with the light, even with the three LB emitters. The XP-G sized die and the main smooth reflector makes for a decently throwy light. It actually has a quite nice tint, with no nasty green or ugly blue. The two side emitters don’t match as they are a slightly warmer tint, but they still are decent. Unless I get really bored, I’ll likely leave the emitters as-is. The only mod I’m planning is to replace the TIR optics on the secondary emitters with some of the wide-angle optics to give me a smoother secondary illumination mode.
The UI is a different story, and could definitely use some improvement.
Modes are:
….and you have to go through the full cycle to turn off. No low modes available.
Real or not? Saw the generic zoomie it was in on a sale and decided to buy it as the emitter looked 100% real. Started to doub´t it after i saw the blue-tinted light from it.
Looks real, the blue tint doesn’t really mean much. I have seen a LOT of real crees with neon blue tints. Pulled a darn near purple Cree emitter today.
Oh ok happy to hear that, thanks for the fast reply.
I do the same thing. I find sk68 sets of 5 for like 17.99 on Amazon and I buy them. Switch put the emitter and better wiring and still not in too much.
I have been dropping 219C 90+ CRI emitters in everything lately, they work great. They really work well in those cheap little AA/AAA lights.
The last one I swapped for a XP-E2 U5 Torch LED on Noctigon 16mm MCPCB from Mountain, I put it in the 68 I use as a test host. Got LG protected cells in it right now with a stock board. Those even protected are pretty hot.
Does https://www.fasttech.com and Kaidomain sell fake leds?
Just currious as i buy lots of them from those sites and im abit worry now
Not fakes but with fasttech anyways it is a pretty good chance that the bin and/or tint is not listed correctly.
Same here I’d like to know the opinion of you guys expert to know if it’s a good deal or not as I was a a hurry to place my order since the 15% rebate on regular price off the whole website finished at 1:00AM where I live and I’ve placed my order only 1 minute before that delay lol.
1- I’ve noticed that it is written “Authentic” on the Sky King flashlight and I’ve seen A LOT of very good reviews about it on Youtube so I feel safe with it and it wasn’t too expensive. I also own an electronic cigarette store so I have plenty of high quality 18650 batteries such as my favorite which are the (Samsung 30Q 3000mAh 20A) or either (iJoy/Efest 4200mAh) for the 26650 size.
www.fasttech.com/p/4173400
2- I’ve bought that one below too but I SERIOUSLY wonder if I should just cancel that one item or not as there’s no brand or model name at all for that flashlight and usualy when there’s too much quantity, the quality drops. I’ve seen hundreds of similar fakes on eBay, AliExpress and such website so my trust has drop even further but I don’t understand then why it would cost 2.5x more than the authentic Sky King?! I’ve also learned tonight on Youtube that you don’t get more light output by having more leds as the leds will only spread the voltage it receives from the batteries so for example… 4x18650 @ 3.7v = 14.8v which is spread by 9 leds then it gives 1.64v/each but then if I take this weird flashlight with 18 leds, okay it is 5 batteries so instead it’d do still only 1.02v/each! So I highly doubt it’s gonna do much more light and that 20,000 lumen is prolly BS as well, so is it just fake gimmick that I should cancel right away even if I’ve got 15% off it?
www.fasttech.com/p/4005900
QUESTION: I currently own an old (Trustfire XML-T6 8000L) that’s using the older version of the leds but appears to be real Cree even though I usualy don’t trust that brand name heh. Mind you it would still be hard to tell as they make such good clones these days but it does light up extremly so seems legit and quality even if the rating is BS as always with these * Chinese. The V2 of these leds are suppose to take 2x less power consumption to get the same wattage output, does that mean the new one will last twice as long before I charge my batteries? Also that Trustfire with only 2x18650 batteries… hell if I do the math then 7.4v / 7 leds = 1.05v/each so that’d be the same amount of voltage per led than the expensive #2 flashlight with 18 leds.