TrustFire TR-J12 5*CREE XML T6 from DX MF and KD

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TrustFire TR-J12 5*CREE XML T6 from DX MF and KD

TrustFire TR-J12 5*CREE XML T6 4500 Lumens 5-Mode LED Flashlight with Extension Tube and Flashlight Holster (2*18650/3*18650)

 

DX = 70.60$ Surprised

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/tr-j12-cree-xm-l-t6-5-led-4500lm-5-mode-mem...

 

MF = 72.99$

http://www.manafont.com/product_info.php/trustfire-trj12-cree-xml-t6-5le...

 

KD = 89.17$

http://www.kaidomain.com/product/details.S020115

 

 

 

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BENCKIE!

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26650!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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ORDERED!!!

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Benkie your late. http://budgetlightforum.com/node/6395 Post 4. Waiting. Wink (Just pretend it's Manafont).

 

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sweet, 26650 compatibility 

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I'll stick to my original statement. I've waited this long I can wait some more. Hey I like the idea of 26650's it looks like it has a filler tube for the 18650's. A 3 mode would be sweet but I know I'm dreaming.

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Pok wrote:

ORDERED!!!

Should be pretty fast to BKK, pls post a report. Thank you!

 

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benckie wrote:

I'll stick to my original statement. I've waited this long I can wait some more. Hey I like the idea of 26650's it looks like it has a filler tube for the 18650's. A 3 mode would be sweet but I know I'm dreaming.

This is probably the true Trustfire version.  It even has the Trustfire holster. Same as TR-3T6, they do not use an OEM design.  The b l u e l a n s  trustfire version is really the SkyRay one.

 

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http://www.aliexpress.com/fm-store/903269

Selling on aliexpress already.

 

Lost control, ordered 1 pc.  usd83.

Supposedly good company policy. They will even pay for return shipping if product is faulty within 15 days.

I'm ok with aliexpress, already purchased like 30 times. 

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2100 wrote:

benckie wrote:

I'll stick to my original statement. I've waited this long I can wait some more. Hey I like the idea of 26650's it looks like it has a filler tube for the 18650's. A 3 mode would be sweet but I know I'm dreaming.

This is probably the true Trustfire version.  It even has the Trustfire holster. Same as TR-3T6, they do not use an OEM design.  The b l u e l a n s  trustfire version is really the SkyRay one.

 

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Confirm true pdt.  They even have Trustfire instruction sheet.

http://www.aliexpress.com/product-fm/517413014-1PC-TrustFire-TR-J12-Flashlight-5-CREE-XM-L-T6-LED-5-Mode-4500-Lumens-Memory-wholesalers.html

Hope i can get it before CNY, that is Jan 21st. 

LAtest update, Emmy Zhang's store use 4px and it should route to HKG, so at least for SIN it should be pretty fast. Rick and some others used this before.

 http://en.4px.cc/page/zytime5.htm

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I have 85 bucks saved up towards a TK60 I've been after for a while I like d cells and the old school maglites, but they are not cheap and don't perform well the TK 60 is the next best thing. As soon as manafont get this in I'll jump on it instead. Or I could wait for the 6 x U2 version.

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2100 wrote:

Lost control, ordered 1 pc.  usd83

Didn't you make a post about spending to much already lol I understand.

Ive already brought 4 x D cell battery holder for charging the TK 60 and 4 x 2 AA to D cell adaptors For the TK 60 but I might have to buy this instead.

Now where do I get some good 26650 batteries from ? While I wait for manafont to stock this light.

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26650 can be gotten from cnqualitygoods and int-outdoors.  If you are afraid to use unprotected LiCo, get the MKNE IMRs, though you do suffer a 15% drop in capacity...not too big an issue though.    Problem is, i have 2pcs of King kong 26650 and 1 pc of MKNE.....ugh.  And int-outdoor charges shipping for 1pc, unless you get their lights.

Dammit, the MKNE from int-outdoor is sold out!

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Rated for 11.2 volts MAX but takes (3) 18650 3 x 4.2 = 12.6volts  last time I was at school?

Bad technical writers or just a driver board waiting for a fizz......

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Rated for 11.2 volts MAX but takes (3) 18650 3 x 4.2 = 12.6volts  last time I was at school?

Bad technical writers or just a driver board waiting for a fizz......

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Unprotected is fine for me, I've read the king kongs are good, not sure if I would buy protected batteries int-outdoor just yet.

Any way these trustfire lights drop into low mode also called dimming when the battery voltage is low to let you know it's time for a battery swap, well mine do it's a good feature to have.

Atlest with the 26650's I can use my 3 cell balance charge leads i made so I can charge 3 in the time it would take me to charge one and the voltage is matched for series use.

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Dicky McClicky wrote:

Rated for 11.2 volts MAX but takes (3) 18650 3 x 4.2 = 12.6volts  last time I was at school?

Bad technical writers or just a driver board waiting for a fizz......

The other site says 8.4 volt, but it should be 12.6 volt since it has the battery tube extention for the 3 rd cell like the TR-3T6 and the TR-1200.

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benckie wrote:

Didn't you make a post about spending to much already lol I understand.

I was supposed to get the XTAR S1 triple XM-L, but i think that one would be too expensive.  And definitely get pretty hot in the highest mode (it listed 2750 lumens, i guess that is emitter lumens but that is a lot too).  It's smaller than the TK70, so it will get pretty hot.   The DRYs can get hot no issue, i have too many extra drivers.  LOL!

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XTAR S1 looks nice, but the price will be right up there i think, i rather some thing a bit cheaper to knock around.

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I plan to mod this TR-J12 with 2 drivers from DX or KD.

1 for 3*XM-L in row, another for both side.

With 3*26650 I can get 2.7-2.8A per LED

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/6-18v-3000ma-3-mode-circuit-board-for-xm-lt...

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Hi Pok, this is like the DRY driver (I have lots of them!). 3 in series is ok.  How do you plan to wire the other 2 LEDs?  You cannot use another of these to power the 2 LEDs at 9V.

 

With 3 x 26650, this light would be very efficient and you will get 2000 lumens OTF at least.  The original ver 0 of Sky Ray 3800 you can get 1600L OTF, but it cannot be sustained I mean it can do that but the driver will fry eventually.

The DRY would not fry, just that it gets too hot and eventually will too. But generally reliability is fine.

Need to get the light first and examine it.  Hope the driver can stand up to heat. This seems to be driving each XM-L at 1.5 amps.  Not sure is it in series or parallel.   With 3 of King Kong 26650, you can do slightly over 2hours at 2000 lumens OTF with no issue of overheating.

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We need to know if the leds are in series or parallel first, even the TR-3T6 with a couple of resolders should throw out 2700 otf,s but for how long is the question.

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benckie wrote:

We need to know if the leds are in series or parallel first, even the TR-3T6 with a couple of resolders should throw out 2700 otf,s but for how long is the question.

I did that, DD. no issue.  Strobe with the DRY driver killed one of the LEDs in my SR3800 (replacement 16mm coming from dinodirect, $8 only!).  Looks like strobe is very hard, maybe the cell can recover during that brief OFF period and when it comes on it whacks the XM-L silly......do this a couple of times and it goes POOF.  That is why i told people not to operate the DRY with fully charged cells, let it drop a bit to 4.1V at least and the light would serve you for a long time.   My best cells, the Sanyo 2600 (better than my NCR18650 and NCR18650A) would have absolutely no issue POOFing XM-Ls when fully charged, they are like near IMRs in terms of current delivery.

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Strobe is realy hard on led,s and jsut about every thing electical, not to mention your eyes, still not sure why they insist on selling lights with strobe.

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Hi Pok, this is like the DRY driver (I have lots of them!). 3 in series is ok.  How do you plan to wire the other 2 LEDs?  You cannot use another of these to power the 2 LEDs at 9V.

 

With 3 x 26650, this light would be very efficient and you will get 2000 lumens OTF at least.  The original ver 0 of Sky Ray 3800 you can get 1600L OTF, but it cannot be sustained I mean it can do that but the driver will fry eventually.

The DRY would not fry, just that it gets too hot and eventually will too. But generally reliability is fine.

Need to get the light first and examine it.  Hope the driver can stand up to heat. This seems to be driving each XM-L at 1.5 amps.  Not sure is it in series or parallel.   With 3 of King Kong 26650, you can do slightly over 2hours at 2000 lumens OTF with no issue of overheating.

 

Remember that this driver is up to 18V with no memory mode.

Both 2 drivers  power with 3*26650  and always start in low mode when you switch on.

Sorry for my bad English I can't explan well.

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Nice! I think they just raised the bar with this one. Pity about the price though, although the per-lumen or per-emitter price is still reasonable.

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Maybe one problem, How can I put 2 drivers in bezel Tongue Out

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Pok, thanks for trying to explain.  Maybe someone like E1320, mitro, dopmuller, boaz can figure it out....  If it's 6 x XM-L then that's very easy, as long as there is space inside.  

sb56637, this works out to be usd16.6 per XM-L for the aliexpress store at usd83.  For this light at 75mm diameter and slightly bigger body tube, there is quiet a lot of aluminum too.  The tube is pretty thick.  I think it is easily 500g.

 

Interesting, this is only 63mm HD and the Sky Ray L1 is 74mm.  On Kaidomain you can see the SR L1 to have the reflectors not extending to the edge, while this TR-J12 got reflectors all the way to the edge.

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Someone listened to us!!! Whats up with the 72000mA drive rating lol??

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