600 Lumens for 295$ LMAO

Quite big head, especially for TIR…and no mention about 18650. Strange that even for that price they could not afford good electronics.

Major ripoff, doubtlessly.

Remembers me of the buying crap for cheap days (in a $ort of way :-D ). Look:

Looks like that Saik SA-9 I first purchased, “upgraded” with a new bezel, “XM-L Q5” emitter and 3000 lumens of output. Totally owns the above flashlight!

Guess what I bought was a more honest product, with a genuine XR-E ez900 pumping out “just” 400 lumens.

LoL!

Cheers ^:)

I’ve never liked the fact that you have to use multiple batteries on most of their lights.

Mike

oh good god, thats just a LITTLE much…

What light are you talking about…?
No flashlight needs to be unscrewed to turn off, and the head on the UM2 is attached as solidly as any other flashlight, probably more.

Sad to say Surefire is way overpriced, and way behind the times. This is coming from an American who likes to support his country. I bow my head in shame :frowning:

The SF tactical lights model #6P (and a few others) were set up so that the tail switch was momentary only. There was no “click” to turn it on/off, once your thumb came off the switch the circuit was open again. If you wanted the light to stay on the tail had to be screwed on tighter to complete the circuit w/o using your thumb. At that point the switch had no effect because the circuit was complete.

I misstated head when I meant tail re: twisty switch operation. I regret if that caused any confusion.

Some guys swear by this set up but I can’t stand it. For that matter I’m not fond of any twisty light though I have a few in my third string of flashlight players.

I’m afraid I can’t find a pic of one of the older SF packages that explains the tactical momentary/twist on tail cap but here’s a link to one of them on ebay where the seller explains it.

But this post is about the UM2 not the 6P…

I was just commenting in another topic, Surefire is WAY over priced and needs some SERIOUS competition.
I’ll admit, I have Surfire lights, and they take a beating like the Energizer Bunny.
Are they behind in the industry? Yes. Ever since Paul Kim left SF, they have felt it.
SF is butt hurt. PK Designs is in the wake. As is more well known designers.

“UM2™ Ultra
Variable Output LED Flashlight”

If I were SureFire, I would definitely use the word “Ultra” in the name of ANY of my flashlights :confounded:

That’s the point, that people who get Suefire lights don’t want it to break. Ever. They’re often military or in lawn-forcement, and want something Reliable™ at all costs. When your life might very well literally depend on it…

You and I can make due with a 50buk light (or 20buk light, or 10buk light) and probably have a spare or two squirreled away Just In Case. :smiley:

There’s a market for hi-rel components, definitely. Me, I’d rather just have spares. :smiley:

You, too, eh? When I misplaced my little 3buk bobofett light for a day or two, I almost had to cry myself to sleep.

Thank B’harni I found it on the kitchen counter later. Still no idea how it got there.

Yeah, that’s why I stopped EDCing my 80buk Quark and started EDCing a modded ’502. (And even that ’502 I’m now emotionally bonded with… no more “throwaway” light!)

They price ’em at “what the market will bear”. LEOs, mil, etc., will always have the Deep Pockets to buy ’em.

Exactly, a lot of pro stuff is overpriced simply because professionals and corporations can afford it.
It’s not meant to be bought by regular consumers, even less ones coming from a “budget” forum xD

Are you going to do a review or have you already posted one?

No… it’s just logic… why would the head be any looser than any other flashlight?

From my experience with the hellfighter, the stuff is screwed on so tight that you need to make a custom tool to remove stuff.
A 1/4” bolt even ripped in half while disassembling.

Also, the UM2 has a button on the side which is an “on off” switch, so it doesn’t need to be unscrewed to turn off.

All flashlights are not created equal. I could send you one that the threads will probably strip if you tightened it too much by hand. Cheap and nasty.
The hellfighter is not what this post is about as you pointed out to another poster above “But this post is about the UM2 not the 6P”.
The hellfighter looks like a beast of a build by all accounts but it would need to be over engineered to withstand some of the uses it was designed for, tank mounting being one of them.

Was just speaking from experience with the brand, it seems like all their lights are built this well from what I hear.
I see no reason for the “head to fall off”
The UM2 is also built for similar military applications, it’s not a home use flashlight for the typical BLF member…

How is that a 300$ light? i dont get it. .whats so special considering the price when u can get similar lights from olight or nitecore for half the price or less and get still good stuff ??

Supposedly they are 100% made in the USA, not just assembled. That’s a little pricey to do . I do wonder who makes the drivers.