Triple REFLECTOR for X6 or C8

The solution seems to be 3x 10/16mm mcpcb’s … Soldering the wires is the tricky part , if someone can use nickel strips it will be easier .

I don’t think you can use this reflector with the Noctigon if you want all the emitters centered.

The only picture I have for comparison is the UF-1408 with the standard MCPCB re-flowed with XM-L2 U3 3D and the KD reflector VS triple X6 with Nichia 219C D320 5000K

About 1 meter from wall UF-1408 (left) X6 (right)

Khans can you take a picture of the stock UF-1408 mcpcb? There are several pcb’s on various sites that aren’t linked to a specific reflector or light, this might help identify it.

I went ahead and ordered the two reflectors. One way or another in one light or another they’ll fit something. I also included some XM > XP centering adapters for some HP options.

So, what I’m thinking… use a hacksaw and cut the Noctigon 32mm at 3 points, dividing it into thirds. Done properly, the 3 pcs should now line up and allow use of this reflector. Traces can be rejoined across the gap with flat sheet material. :wink: Could either solder them back together or leave them apart, glue the individuals down to the emitter shelf using the reflector as a template to position them perfectly.

Probably as easy or almost as easy as fitting 3 16mm Noctigons and then messing with all the wiring.

(Cut on the downstroke only. Pulling a backstroke would lift traces off the mcpcb.A band saw would make this easy peasy.)

I paid KaiDomain $67.71 4 days ago, haven’t heard a word in confirmation from them whatsoever. No email at all. They got the funds, I so far have not one scrap of communication.

Similar boat here, DB. Put in a KD order today. Got a PayPal receipt, but no sign of an order confirmation. :question:

I think KD might still be out on CNY.

CNQG was the worst for that. I never recieved confirmation for any orders placed with them. Occasionally with a few others but KD was usually good about it.

The best mass produced connection set up I’ve seen is the through hole connection Cutter used on their 32mm boards. It allowed for very low profile since no wire was above the board.

I always drill out the Cutter via’s and user larger wires. :stuck_out_tongue:


Stock MCPCB

Noctigon vs Stock MCPCB

I have tried two different triple reflectors :

Fasttech (left) Kaidomain (right)

The layout and spacing of the emitter holes are almost identical, height is also nearly the same the KD one being 1mm taller.


Fasttech


Kaidomain

Here are some beam shots :

X6 Triple reflector with XP-G2 S4 3D (left) X6 LEDIL CUTE-3-SS with Nichia 219C D320 5000K (right)

The current triple spacer 8.6mm height for the X6 works fine with the reflector.

Neither of the reflectors are a perfect fit for the NOCTIGON XP32, depending on your OCD level it might be fine, to me they are to much off center :wink:

So even with off centered emitters it’s a bit tighter beam than with the cute-3. That’s what I expected to see since they are effectively ~3-4 mm deeper(focusing of the “tir” effect stops where the parabolic surface ends).

I got the fast tech one in the mail, now I just need to find a MCPCB board to match it.

TIRs tend to have larger hot spots than equivalent width reflectors because they capture some of the light that would be spill and focus it into the beam. So you lose spill width and gain in hot spot size.

Its not really a reflector by itself more like a twisty c8 triple. Looks like it could make a good host. Around $21 shipped with seller discount. I wanna get one eventually and see what db can do with it :slight_smile:

https://m.aliexpress.com/item/32338093102.html

For mtb I certainly appreciate the smoother overall beam from a tir. My curiousity compels me to compare them and sometimes I want something more in the center.

So I’ve actually made a triple reflector setup in an X6 using the Noctigon mcpcb. I used the ET D25A reflectors from KD with just a touch of file work on the rim flanges to make them mate and center over the LEDs. I’ll get a pic posted when I can but it’s a great beam. Reflector area is nearly 100% maximized while not having overlapping reflector wells which lead to the dreaded (at least for me) flower pedal spill beams.

Oh… I did have to put an additional spacer underneath the copper adapter that was made for the ledil optic. But that was easy too…

Not trying to dissuade you at all; the reflector beam is nice and better for some applications. But a reflector should throw only a bit better than a TIR. I measured the throw of an XPL HI in a narrow TIR and the SMO S2 reflector and the TIR measured about 87% of the SMO reflector intensity. The honeycomb pattern on the CUTE-3 SS also decreases throw by about 10% compared to a polished version.