Hmm some misconceptions in this thread, probably one of the reasons people prefer PayPal
Debunk time:
1 your credit card information is known in the AliExpress system. not the vendors, AliExpress is safe and is not a reason for fraudulent write offs.
2 dispute system on both Paypal and AliExpress offers security (I prefer AliExpress much much more based on personal experience where PayPal wanted me to fax (in 2016!!) but was not responsive if the provided number was French or USA, Gearbest gave a refund and if they had not done that I would have lost out. The dispute of AliExpress offers a lot of room to clarify and negotiate, verdicts are fair.)
3 Paypal payments are made to vendor right away, AliExpress payments are made to vendor if buyers says it has arrived.
This is important. For AE it does not matter who they make the funds available to so in case of dispute there is no incentive to delay or anything. Paypal needs to reclaim the funds so in case of a PayPal dispute a vendor has a lot to win in stalling and trying to get the buyer to mess the highly regulated process up.
Besides this, maybe some people are too young to have a credit card or do not realise one can get pre paid credit cards from different sources or even make a virtual cards in their bank environment.
Big global credit card companies like VISA have no problem with AliExpress.
I’d hate to see PayPal on AliExpress because I think PayPal is more expensive for vendors and we know it will be added to price for all to make things easier.
No Paypal, no purchase.
Too many hacks going on to risk hassle of credit card info direct to overseas vendors.
When you supply Gearbest or BangGood where we can use Paypal, then this new Jaxman will be purchased in larger quantities.
There was some talk of AE getting Paypal as a payment form, but that seemed to die away.
Many vendors on AliExpress now take PayPal as an option. As I understand from AliExpress they are moving in that direction completely. They say it is up to each individual vendor to accept PayPal, they won’t force anyone to do so.
Edit: I found this AliXBlog that says AliExpress STOPPED working with PayPal due to high commissions charged at PayPal.
Jaxman already said they will take Paypal, they even say it on their Ali site. All Jaxman needs to do is figure out shipping when using Paypal, since Ali has financial agreements with several shipping companies. If Simon can figure it out and have no problems shipping, then so can Jaxman.
This isn’t about which payment system is better, it’s about what makes purchaser’s more comfortable using. Since millions use Paypal, Jaxman doesn’t want to miss out on potential sales. All they have to do is figure out how to create a shipping label outside of Aliexpress. Almost every Chinese seller does this, so it can’t be that difficult to figure out.
In my country not all banks enable their cards for payment on sites like AE. All of them enable using paypal.
Personally security is no issue for me and I order from AE all the time, but I have to confirm payment with my bank for every transaction and I can buy maximum 5 times a day (5 items if different seller). So sometimes it's just annoying. With paypal I don't have that problem.
I’ve personally used the Jaxman store twice now to purchase two E2s. I had GREAT communication with J. Bo about both transactions and would purchase from him/them again whether they use PP or not. PP is most certainly not without its drawbacks.
I had a horrible experience with a single ordered item from GB that I paid using PP. Notice I used the word “single.” I eventually got my PP refund - after I received the first E2 that I ordered from Jaxman.
I cannot speak for all of AliExpress like most of the posters here seem to be backhandedly doing in this thread, but as for Jaxman, in my limited experience, they are way above water.
You did mention this in another topic right? I remember something like this
The app wanted me to fill it in again too, bit when I tapped cancel it simply continued and I have seen a request on the site as well, didn’t had a credit card at hand so ignored it and now it doesn’t ask it but if it pops up I will do it since the online credit card payment overview is very clear so if something would be wrong I’d spot it fast.
Sometimes I use the PayPal credit card processor on GearBest I don’t have a PayPal. I’ve used my credit card on GearBest direct and aliexpress. My credit Union is pretty good about fraud. Plus I don’t have more then a hundred or two in the bank usually at any given time paycheck to paycheck so thieves really wouldn’t benefit from my information. So I don’t worry to much. I’ve had my bank pop up during a transaction and enter q security thing to make sure I’m really making the order. They have called me a couple tomes to asking if I made a overseas order after the transaction went through
I hear a lot of people saying that they are weary or using credit cards on AE.
I cannot understand why.
If you are truly using credit, it’s not even your money anyway.
You literally have nothing to lose.
I have never ever heard of someone having to pay a credit card provider back
for illegitimate or unauthorized purchases.
You are far more likely to have your card skimmed at a physical point of sale,
than to have it somehow hacked online. Skimmers on ATMs, skimmers on gas pumps,
store clerks having card skimmers beside the cash register. These are the things you should be worried about.
Alipay is the largest payment platform in the world larger than both paypal and square combined. Hacking or payment security is not and has not been an issue. You are exponentially more like to lose your wallet than to have some fraud/theft/hacking issue with Alipay.
Some stats on ALipay
total payment volume of alipay $519 billion
400 million registered users
all time number of alipay transactions 42.3 billion
average number of daily alipay transactions 175 million
I am on a similar boat as Jerommel, I use PayPal to pay in many sites but I've also discovered the benefits of using Aliexpress; if I have an issue with an order, they're prompt to answer and a video/pics is all I need to solve my order issue. If I am to get a reimbursement, it arrives at my bank account FAST, something which I can't claim with PayPal.
My last year's purchases from Aliexpress have surpassed my eBay ones.
Cheers ^:)
P.S.: you don't need a @#$% credit card to pay on Aliexpress, a debit card is enough/equivalent.
P.S.2: PayPal's currency conversion charges are ABUSIVE. @#$% them!
For people from the Netherlands it’s easy to pay via iDeal, which is a direct on-line bank transfer.
I think there are similar options for other countries too.
So then you don’t need a credit or a debit card, just your regular bank account.
Works great :+1:
Safe too, because you need a TAN code your bank sends by SMS.
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