a new EDC light of 2017- JAXMAN E2L

No, that was DB Customs who said that, but i disagree.
4wheeler’s point that it’s dishonest people that are the problem is a valid point though.

Something like a warranty seal would be good, i suppose glue can have that role, but it’s nasty when a light can not be disassembled because then it can’t be repaired either, or modded.

So for modders a host would be great.

I do hope that it is only the LED board that is glued; I have a FET driver from MTN waiting to be used.

As a side note, I wonder if the famous black metal Convoy clips will work. The grooves seem much more shallow in the Jaxman.

It would not protect the lens. To protect the lens from “meatheads” the bezel would have to be glued. Legitimate “modders” would just have to deal with it or buy a host…… IF avaiable.

I am not a fan of glue. BUT…… IF Jaxman feels he must glue the entire light together, so as to make it “tamper proof” for warranty purposes; so be it! It is his company & his choice…… simple as that.

“We” don’t have to like it, but it is not up to us.

I don’t like all the sensors & emission crap on new automobiles this day & time…… but I am gonna have no luck at all calling or emailing Ford or GM and telling them I want mine without all that “crap”.

Or telling Nitecore or another major light maker not to glue their lights together…. I imagine they would get a good laugh as they deleted the email.

Thankfully Simon of Convoy does not glue his completely together, and he does offer hosts as well. BUT again, it is his business and both of those are his choices.

For us to gripe and whine about how Jaxman chooses to run his business is ridiculous. He is not here to cater to BLF, CPF, or modders in general. He is trying to make a bit of money, I imagine; so he & his can survive in this world.
As far as I am concerned it is not up to us to “TELL” him how to do that.

Nothing wrong at all with asking or making suggestions as far as I am concerned…. maybe he will consider them and possibly even implement some of them. Maybe he won’t.

But, “to me”; statements such as…. ‘if it is glued no sale’ or threats of not buying his lights if they are glued are just unnessary.
Why even say it, who cares if you buy it or not?

Most people who buy lights will never even think about taking them apart in any way, form, or fashion.

I do hope there will emerge a way to easily purchase Jaxman hosts. But if that does not happen I am not going to have a cornary.

I can’t imagine he would use the “bad” stuff. I’m betting he has done his ‘homework’ as meticulous as his lights are done.

That is a great link too, thanks for sharing it.

I have the two lights en-route from Jaxman, it’ll probably be a while as they seem to be taking their sweet time getting on the plane to the US, but of course that is out of Jaxman’s hands.

I still say it’s the modders that cause the reason. Nobody else breaks open the light in the first place, as far as I can tell… most regular users are afraid to kill it. I used to also be afraid I’d ruin something, but eventually I learned that whatever I might ruin could be replaced so it became ritual to disassemble them all, regardless of glue or price. I think, to date, of the 400+ lights I’ve been into the only one I killed was the little angle light I got for review. The junction bolt that held the angle head on and allowed the wires to pass through was very difficult to reach, I tore it up getting it apart and it’s just stayed torn up, never bothered to try and repair it.

I think it is mostly for warranty & “meatheads”. Of course there is nothing that says a modder can’t be a “meathead” also…… :wink:

I can’t find any info on a Jaxman M2. Have you got a link or some info T18?

Yep Mr Teacher, Paul sent me 2 of them last week or week before, but just before he posted them for sale, nice looking lights, for sure, or so I think, asked Paul if he was in with Maxtoch, has the Maxtoch look or Shadow which is also a Maxtoch sort of swipe, lots of good designs coming from Paul I’m a thinking… ha
Edit: Sorry misread your question, sort of not with it right now…
m2

Amen… :+1:

Thank you for the M2 link T18, I like the looks of that! :slight_smile:

(about post #183) Hey T18, would you mind slowing down a bit? I can’t really find where your anger comes from but your rants with rather explicit language makes me not want to visit this thread anymore, even though I bought the E2L so I’m curious about what people think of it. I hope that the OP is not scared away by overheated reactions like yours, rather than by discussions over glue :frowning:

Yes, Please accept my apologies, it’s response to something someone aimed at me, but that’s not an excuse to use the language that you referred to and I will remove that, whether justified or not, I know better, I’m sorry…!

Hmmmm, apologies?? Well sure thing T18, they are accepted; it’s all good. :slight_smile:
But honestly, I am still trying to figure out what you are apologizing for. :open_mouth:
I noticed you did delete your rather mild mannered semi-rant post, but I personally found no greatly offensive language in it as was suggested. And certainly nothing so terrible as to keep anyone from visiting this thread.But hey, if that is the case may the door not hit them in the keister on the way out. :wink:

I’ll reluctiantly delete my “quote” of your now deleted post… since I will assume that would be your wish.

And if I were you I would not loose any sleep about your post “scaring off” the OP… I doubt he “scares” that easily.

If anything runs him off it will be the reaction to “glue” and requests for 50 or so individual variations of the same light……… :smiley:
That would be enough to make any manufacturer run screaming for cover…. :wink:

Stirring the pot is generally ill-advised.

I’ll comment further once the light I bought arrives.

But isn’t that how you get a smooth blend of the herbs for a mild but long lasting buzz?

As far as I am concerned sometimes the “pot” needs a good stirring. :+1:

Otherwise all the “ingredients” separate and clump together, that makes for a one sided taste for the “soup”. Always give it a good stir before you serve it up!!! :+1:

Also being the nice, easy going fellow that I am; I will just assume the Stirring the pot reference above, below my last post; was not directed at me. Or at least not at me solely……… :slight_smile:
Because the pot in this thread has been stirred a bunch by several people already, throughout the thread; whether overtly or covertly. :wink:

No problem T18, and you are welcome. :+1:
I figured since you deleted your post, and since I strive to be a Southern Gentleman; it was the least I could do to deleted my “quote” of your post.

Yep T18, I would have to agree whole heartily with your “Edit” above. :+1: … Only problem is we are all still trying to figure out what that “something else” is. …… :smiley:

Take care……… :wink:

T18, who is Paul? Is it Jaxman himself or a reseller?

If I understood Jaxman correctly, he seems to have the same exact issues as Paul, people who request his flashlight without the “glue” and then they ask him to service the damaged light.

Thanks T18 for editing your post.
Teacher, that post did contain language that in my opinion in tone and in the use of words should be avoided on an internet forum, and which also would not stand the test against the rules of this forum: I would not like my son to read that post.

That is fine ‘djozz’, we all have our opinions. :+1: