I hope mine doesn’t get charged with VAT. I’m in EU also and ordered a pair of E2L hosts. :person_facepalming:
fuzun: I think not a correct way to leave it and send back and wait for refund. Jaxman can not know every counrty charges and taxes.
Oh man that sounds like a highway robbery. Wish someone would mention it in the interest list before.
What is that 13.00 charge? Shipping and handling?
it is VAT and administration fee (on these low VAT numbers the administration is kicking in harder)
This is the reason I try to split orders so real value is below 20
Got the driver out and broke away whatever gooey I could reach, it does not stick as much as Arctic Alumina Adhesive, but that ledboard will never come out. I can tell you that the white stuff does not give in even at 150 degC.
So I had to do the reflow in situ. I’m glad I recently made my new heatblock, it needed to be fired up to 240 degrees to unsolder the old leds, and even to 270 degrees to get the flashlight head to the needed 200 degrees for proper reflowing. (all measured with an infrared thermometet)
There you go. In the picture I found out that one led has shifted so I had to re-heat the head to correct that.
And I’m not impressed by the 319C’s under narrow Carclo optics (these are 3000K 80CRI). Left is a 219C triple (3500K 92CRI) for comparison, right the 319C triple E2L. Look at the big yellow center!
The light heats up very fast and the output is good: 2240lm at start, 1740lm at 30seconds on a 30Q at 4.18V. Current was 12.8A (clamp meter measurement without tail section).
I’m ambivalent about the mod. When abused at these high powers the E2L does not seem to handle it much better than say a S2+, I’m sure that with the thick led-shelf, the aluminium vs brass, and the rudimental finning, there is a difference that pays off at somewhat lower power but this (40W) is way too much.
And about the 319C under the Carclo optics: the tint of this 80CRI led is really nice, much nicer than any 80CRI 3000K Cree led, and when not white-wall hunting the beam is perfectly nice, but I see no advantage over the 219C, the latter even has a better beam. Perhaps in a reflector light the 319C shows its merit?
T18, in my country you often are required to fix a customs declaration on the outside of the package, that contains a description and a value. So I do not think that it was a huge mistake from Jaxman. But it would help a lot when Jaxman is aware of the EU threshold of €22 value undrr which no VAT and handling is charged, and adjusts the declared value to avoid that.
I’m sure that Jaxman could have packed this smarter than they did, but I’m not going to ask for refunds. I just hope that they read this and do it better next time.
As a shorty this E2L is really cute, even shorter than a S2+ shorty :partying_face:
Btw, the E2L bezel blocks less light from the optic than a S2+ converted into a triple.
Hey Djozz … you mentioned the goop didn’t give way at 150 C
However, you then heated the head to 240 C … did the goop get any softer at 240C?
I have one of these lights on order. Unfortunately, I missed the window on the hosts so ordered an assembled one with the goop. I like that the threads on the E2L are compatible with the Convoy S2+. I also like the stainless steel bezel and the heatsink fins.
The head got up to 200C, and the goop did not give way. 
In the meantime, from what I have seen, I think that the E2L that is sold as a host will be just great, it will be easy to work with and has everything that I would want from a triple host including a retaining ring for the driver (this is the first Jaxman light that I own that has that, all other drivers were soldered in :confounded: ). I just hope for a black version at some point.
This goop is not human… It cannot feel pain… It cannot be reasoned with!
Am I reading it correctly that some of you guys are asking Jaxman to lie on the value of what you choose to buy so you can “save money?”
Is there really disappointment here from folks because Jaxman isn’t “helping” them bypass the charges that their individual governments set for products that they purchase?
Sad…and dishonest.
I did get one host of the E2L a while back and it’s a bare and perfect as ever could be, just like buying a Convoy S2 host from Simon but different packaging of course ha ha…,
I will try and do a vid of how to remove some adhesives, if time allows, mainly the stuff under the mcpcb since I’ve never gotten any of the goop as pictured in the OP by Jax.
But can’t imagine if Jax was correct and it becomes fluid at 100C or I think 212F, a micro torch should easily work around inside the driver cavity and De-solidify that thermal compound they used for no valid reason really.
Oh boy, here goes…
Edit: Do you work for Customs or the USPS or doing any sort of trade with China or any other country than where you live, because if you did any of those you’d know just how stupid that sounds,
I absolutely LOVE IT that Jaxman tells the truth on the customs form! LOVE IT!
I hate liars.
I doubt seriously they are, but we will hope Customs is not “tuned in” to this thread. 
When did honesty start to “sound stupid?”
I’ll never do business with anybody that asks me to be dishonest on a customs form and I hope Jaxman continues their “policy of truth.”
Yep, no one likes Liars, but then there’s doing business and no likes be double or triple taxed on anything they should purchase, and if they told the truth on all these declarations they’d be violating current trade agreements and if you’ve ever wondered why they can ship to us so cheap but we can’t ship to them as cheap, trade deals, USPS deals, DHL deals, all of them are liars, REALLY…! And then theirs POTUS and the likes…
+∞
Liars are liars - period. The rest of your “$3K” story is a red herring and immaterial to the discussion of Jaxman being an honest dealer.
I wonder how many of the same guys complaining about paying taxes on their choices were the ones asking for the free light to review…?
Not to get up on a soapbox or anything, but we all know what’s wrong and what’s right.
I applaud Jaxman for their stance.
T18? Do you know Hoosh personally? The “you’re not smart enough for me to try and explain” is extremely rude and while I’m not fond of hitting that button, you’re showing yourself…
I don’t like having values on my packages because I don’t live in the best area and have had things go, “missing.” I see both sides of this, I’m sure Jaxman had 0 ill intentions with how they shipped the product.
Back on track, I did some reading up on the old vs new XP-G2s. I can’t tell much by eye, but I can see little red speckles in my LEDs. From what I read that’s a sign of new XP-G2s, I also cannot see dots in the phosphor it looks smooth. I don’t have any way to take a closer look/picture, but I think I have new ones.
Also another question. So I know I can set the thermal regulation twmp with Bistro, what do you reckon that should be at in this light? It does get quite hot, but I have yet to see it step down… I’m also hesitant to leave it on for more than 20 seconds.