Lithium-ion battery safety 101

Batteries and Chargers Rechargeable Batteries
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My pleasure. :+1:

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What is it with batteries and airplanes? Seems like most of the incidents happen in the air or is it just that they get more attention?

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I actually have that same question about airplanes. I’m going to Florida April 9th and I have a rather large ANKER power bank which looks like it uses multiple 18650 batteries. I’m wondering/hoping I can take it on the airplane…
I’d use it just to charge my tablet and my other familys phones or whatever they have

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all fire-related problems that happen on airplanes will show up in the news, and the sources discussed.
That’s because aircraft fires are taken quite seriously.
LMGTFY

Problems elsewhere, well, if someone happens to put it on YouTube we’ll know about it, otherwise maybe not.

For example, a while back, there were a lot of reports of vehicle fires in China attributed to li-ion batteries.
Then China cracked down on handling them and the stories disappeared from the news.

Checking today: china lithium battery fire? - Google Search

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In the US:

  • Spare (uninstalled) lithium ion batteries must be carried in carry-on baggage only.
    • They can not be in your checked bags.
    • If your carry-on bag is checked plane side you must remove the li-ion batteries.
  • Spare batteries must be protected from damage and short circuit.
  • Lithium ion batteries are limited to a rating of 100 watt hours (Wh) per battery. (I want a 100 Wh 18650 battery!)
  • Lithium ion installed in a device are allowed in checked baggage.
    • Electronic cigarettes and vaporizers are prohibited in checked baggage.
    • External chargers are considered to be a battery so they can not be in checked baggage.

References:

https://www.faa.gov/about/initiatives/hazmat_safety/more_info/?hazmat=7

https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/ash/ash_programs/hazmat/passenger_info/media/Airline_passengers_and_batteries.pdf

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Thanks. I have the ANKER Powercore+ 26800 charger. I’m not sure how many Wh that is. Amazon answers said it can be brought on an airplane but I just wanted to double check

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You should be good on the Wh.

FYI: Wh = V x Ah.

The charger is considered a battery so it should not be checked.

When I fly with batteries I always print out the FAA Battery FAQ and carry it with the batteries, just in case there are any questions.

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Wow nice! Thank you very much! I would’ve never been able to figure that out. The thing is heavy.

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Thanks, I will print that out tomorrow when the stepdad isn’t home. Florida is a surprise to him. He thinks it’s just 4 people going, so I’ll do it while he is at work

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Printed and put in with the battery. So I should be good to go. Thank you all for the help. I appreciate it

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Also you should check with the airline(s) you’re flying on and if they have a “FAQ” page with their details online, then print it out too. The airline folks will find that easier to reference should they have any concerns, and airlines themselves may have additional requirements not spelled out in the FAA or TSA regulations.

While this has been mostly worked out at this point I expect the future to bring more specific details including specifications regarding acceptable boxes and carriers for cells, and maybe even the devices Li batteries are installed in themselves. Right now a baggie meets the specs for being in plastic, yet we all know that the this thin plastic could easily be damaged in a bit of turbulence. We LiIon enthusiasts know better than to rely on a baggie, but the ‘average Joe’ doesn’t, nor do most airline employees. Considering the stakes involved I think it’s a situation which could be handled far better than is currently being done.
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If we preach and teach Li safety where we can, we can reduce the number of problems occurring which benefits us directly_ :smiley:

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SawNaster thanks for the tips. I will do that also. As far as what my battery is in, I still have it in the box it came in with the charger and everything including a little travel pouch that the battery sits in snugly. It’s cardboard box but it holds everything nice and tight. I knew about them phone batteries exploding in the note phones. Almost bought one until I seem that craziness on the news.
My uncle actually works for the airport we are using so I will talk with him about it also to make sure I have all of the correct information needed just in case, to be safe

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Here’s the link. I’m NOT making any money at all with this link.

https://www.amazon.com/Anker-PowerCore-Portable-Capacity-PowerPort/dp/B01K6TA748/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1491573710&sr=8-2-spons&keywords=Anker&psc=1

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It does say some stuff on the battery. I’ll try and post a picture if possible. How do I do that? It’s asking for a url. I can’t take one with my tablet or just use one from off of my computer and put it on here? Help please

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heres the battery

that should be a picture from photobucket. dont know if i did it right though :weary:

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Not working for me >:(

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At this point… that would be a no. :smiley:

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nothing i do is working. and when it does work it doesnt…. it shows a picture of a cat saying picture not found lol

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Excellent resource

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Another interesting link:

Vaping incidents US Navy