New Convoy C8 – Clearly better

We’re talking flashlights, not laser guns! :smiley:

Well shoot. I know 2x 18350 will work (or in my case 2x 16340 because that’s what I have), I was hoping to increase battery capacity though, since 2x 18350 is less than even 1x 18650. I wonder if I can open up the driver opening for one of the H1-A 20mm boost drivers.

Well , i like laser guns . My X6 , F13 , C8 , L6 (all with dedomed xp-g2’s agree too).

It came!
Man oh man what beauty!
Hat of to TK, J-Dub74 and Simon, thanks.

:sunglasses: Glad you like it buddy.

this one has the highest WAF for sure “ooh that is beautiful, like silver, get more so we can give them as presents”

She’s a keeper & so is the flashlight

You’ll like the clear anodized S2+ then too. :sunglasses: Coming soon to a Convoy store near you…

Edit: The S2+ even comes in a nice gift box. :wink:

Hahaha cunning you :wink:
Don’t like gifting li ion lights without good internal charging
A clear S2+ with the mangled driver (desoldered some chips) and wide tir optics would be something she’d like for sure, hmmm

I hear you about the gifting thing. I’m the same way giving lithium ion lights to the uninitiated.

Give me a few minutes and I’ll tweak the BD03 (built-in charging tube light) design a bit and switch it to clear ano. :stuck_out_tongue:

Speaking of built in charging, I have a prototype BD02 running Biscotti and man is that one sweet light! Didn’t expect to like it so much. Throwy little sucker! Like a C8 but with built in charging and a little more aesthetically pleasing and of course the oh-so-elegant stainless side switch. :money_mouth_face:

Just got my C8 from Gearbest. The 12 modes works fine and I can select any of them with ease. I just cannot disable or turn off memory. After 10+ taps then 1 blink then 1 buzz then 2 blinks then 1 buzz—- I click and nothing happens (memory still on). If I repeat the procedure then tap (instead of click)— same result (memory still on).

Can anyone please help. Thank you!

amf click is turning off

Oh J-Dub74 it just doesn’t stop :wink:

Click or tap = same result. Memory still ON.

J-Dub74, will these be available to purchase sometime? Sounds sweet!

What an excellent light!
out of the box ver impressive throw!
set it up to three modes (mode 5) with memory, nice UI TK
Thanks once more!

So I finally get the replacement driver from Simon fixed, spring bypassed while they’re at it.

Wow! Marked improvements indeed! Lights didn’t get uncomfortably hot even at prolonged usage. Makes me tempted to get more upgrades for it.

Hi, you asked me for drivers to improve them.
You did not respond to the PM I sent you, maybe its the forum bug you dont get a message notifying you.

If you still want those drivers please respond to me until wednesday or other BLF members are already there to take em.

One thing to check is whether it still behaves that way without the tailcap on. Like, if you put a wire or something between the rear end of the battery and a non-anodized* part of the host (rear edge of the tube), is it able to forget the mode? If you leave it alone for a full minute, can it forget? In either case, it may be that the driver is discharging too slowly.

Also, you probably know this, but tap during the “buzz”.

Maybe I can get this 8x7135 driver tested today. It has two capacitors for some reason, and I suspect it might discharge slowly, which would make the button press window longer and make no-mem mode take longer to “forget”. (would be nice if the driver hardware would stop changing in unexpected ways)

* The “clear” hosts are actually anodized; they just have silver dye to make them look bare.

It’s really a matter of personal preference. Do you want it more throwy or more floody? I usually get a floody configuration and put DC-Fix on the lens to make it even more floody.

At a guess, the XP-L HI + SMO probably doubles the throw compared to XM-L2 + OP.

*goes off to test*

Okay, I’m getting 5432 cd on a 4x7135 driver with a NCR18650PF at 3.67V. I expect this light would probably get about 11,000 cd on a full battery with 8x7135 driver, or even more with a FET driver.

For comparison…

  • 4 kcd: Convoy S3 XM-L U2 @ 2.8A
  • 5.3 kcd: Convoy S2+ XP-L HI SMO @ 1.4A
  • 8 kcd: BLF A6 @ 5-6A
  • ~11 kcd: Convoy S2+ XP-L HI SMO @ 2.8A
  • ~24 kcd: Dale’s best throw-optimized BLF A6
  • 34.5 kcd: XinTD C8 V4 XM-L2 @ 3.04A
  • ~50 kcd: BLF X6v2 XP-L HI @ 5-6A
  • ~135 kcd: Tom E’s best C8 w/ de-domed XP-G2 @ 6A

So it occupies a solid middle ground between a traditional tube light and a C8. It gets 2-3X as much throw as a normal floody tube light, but moving up to a C8 will likely get you another 2X or 3X improvement.

Throw can be higher in a 18650 tube light, as Dale found, but it’s not easy. He had things totally maxed out with a custom optic. And a C8 can be pimped out quite a bit, but it requires very precise mods and turns into a pencil-thin beam.

So the question is… do you want 4-5 kcd or 11 kcd in your S2+? I think Simon will probably make it available both ways. Bigger numbers here aren’t necessarily better.