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Costco Eneloops

It looks like they’re finally selling them without the charger that few of us need. Even better, they separated AA’s & AAA’s. I believe the 10 pack of AA’s was $20, which is even better than AmazonBasics AA’s.

The low mode should be lower.

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I saw them at one of the San Francisco Costco’s…$19.99 for the 10 pack.

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Should have snapped a picture. I have to check it out next time I’m at Costco.

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I saw the multipack for $29.99 at my local Costco here in Miami and they did have the 10 AA pack and the AAA pack, but I wasn’t too concerned with them.

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Should have snapped a picture. I have to check it out next time I’m at Costco.

Forgot to mention that they were marked as Panasonic’s that retained 70% of their charge after 10 years (at least I think it was 10). I’m going to the SF downtown Costco this weekend so I’ll see if they have them at that store.
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The Brookfield Connecticut Costco has them on the shelf as well, —- if your in the area , AA’s and AAA’s for $20. I keep an eye on these, every few weeks Costco offers a $6 coupon for the multi pack with charger. Perhaps after the new year a coupon to clear the AA’s and AAA’s out.
Never can tell with Costco some products are a one time offering.

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If they offer that coupon, it’ll be difficult for me not to buy every one possible. I also want them to put those led tube lights on sale again, both the tube replacements and the fixtures. My garage needs much more light.

The low mode should be lower.

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I am outside of the USA. Do they sell online at the same discount scheme? If so, a link would be very much appreciated.

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The last time I was on the Costco website the eneloop package with charger was available to members only.
A discount was offered to members online but then shipping chargers eliminated the savings!

I did read the individual cells though the blister package “Made in Japan” and Panasonic were printed on each cell. The cells have a silver color wrapper.

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Should have snapped a picture. I have to check it out next time I’m at Costco.
Forgot to mention that they were marked as Panasonic’s that retained 70% of their charge after 10 years (at least I think it was 10). I’m going to the SF downtown Costco this weekend so I’ll see if they have them at that store.

Those are the latest Generation 5s and should have been made last June/July (2016,) making them the latest production batch to make it into America.

I’m still on my first batch of Gen. 2s and Glitters, bought almost 5 years ago, but I like the fact that we no longer have to buy a charger with the batteries, since I have a bunch of top shelf chargers here already.

My latest batch has been the Fujitsu standard Gen. 4s and the hi-cap 2500mAhs, both made at the FDK plant in Takasaki, Japan, which is where Eneloops are also made.

Fujitsu owns FDK, the technology and patents behind the Eneloop LSD NiMH batteries, in case people didn’t know. Eneloop is just a name brand own solely by Panasonic.

I basically buy by price.

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I’ve been buying Energizer Recharge 2000mah from Amazon.
$16 for an 8 pack. Free shipping with Prime.

According to at least this website they are slightly better* than Eneloops
(*initial capacity, capacity after four dozen charges, self-discharge, and high-drain) ,
and cheaper.

http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-rechargeable-batteries/

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Angler wrote:
I’ve been buying Energizer Recharge 2000mah from Amazon.
$16 for an 8 pack. Free shipping with Prime.

According to at least this website they are slightly better than Eneloops,
and cheaper. http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-rechargeable-batteries/

Actually, the Energizer 2300mAh in silver mylar foil with medium (not lime) green accents are Made In Japan and most probably from the FDK plant.

I was using them going back to the early 2000s and have gone through 5-6 quads of AAs and half that for AAAs. I’m charging up a quad that are dated 2010 and they’re still close to that 2300mAh.

Those are the good Energizers. Some of the newer ones are labeled ‘Made In China’ and might not fair so well. There’s 1500mAh, 2000mAh and I think even 2500mAh.

The 2300s are top notch batteries and have a greenish fiber washer at the positive end.

Nothing is better than FDK made LSD batteries and Fujitsu NiMH AA/AAAs and Made In Japan Eneloops are guaranteed to be manufactured in that plant. Everything else is just speculation and conjecture.

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Fwiw the website I linked tested the Energizer 2000mah extensively for initial capacity, capacity after four dozen charges, self-discharge, and high-drain and concludes that they best the 2000mah Eneloops by a small amount at a 25% savings.

I’ve never used the 2300mah but they are widely reported on CPF and elsewhere to have excessive self discharge.

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Fwiw the website I linked tested the Energizer 2000mah extensively for initial capacity, capacity after four dozen charges, self-discharge, and high-drain and concludes that they best the 2000mah Eneloops by a small amount at a 25% savings.

I’ve never used the 2300mah but they are widely reported on CPF and elsewhere to have excessive self discharge.

I can’t pull your blog post up.

Here’s HKJ’s testing of the Energizer HSD 2000mAh AAs. Mine look just like those, but have green fiberboard washers vs. black, they state 2300mAh and say Made In Japan. The 2000s do test out well in HKJ’s brief testing.

http://lygte-info.dk/review/batteries2012/Energizer%20AA%202000mAh%20(Silver)%20UK.html

I’m all over CPF and you might see one/two people who have supposedly had issues with the 2300s.

The 2300s are actually a low self discharge battery. Since there are so many variations, people get things confused.

I’ve read of people saying this and that, over the years on CPF, but I’ve actually been testing them out on chargers like my Maha C9000, LC BC-700 and Opus BT-3400 and they’re a very good, long-lived cell with a typical capacity between the Eneloop Standards and the XX/Pros.

All the other Energizer variations, I can’t speak to, as I don’t buy them.

This is just my experience based off of useage going back to 2002ish. Heck…I even use my AA quads bought back around then, in my low drain remotes and I charge them back up once a year with no problems.

Remember, the poorer batteries will still work well in the beginning, but quickly develop higher internal resistances, so that’s where the predominate problem lies. 48 cycles is nothing compared to a Gen. 2 (1500 cycles,) Gen. 3 (1800,) Gen. 4 (2100) and Gen. 5 (2100)

Here are a couple of informal tests/observations I’ve done on LSD batteries:

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?356797-1-Year-LSD-shootout-Eneloops-GP-ReCyKos-and-Imedions-it-s-done!

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?412914-Eneloop-5th-An...GLITTER-AAs-38-month-test

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I’ve been buying these 2300mAh Energizer’s at Walmart for 7 bucks a pack. Says “Made in Japan” on the back of the package.

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I am outside of the USA. Do they sell online at the same discount scheme? If so, a link would be very much appreciated.

Costco Canada sells them online. Costco.ca, and search for eneloop. They were on sale for $12 off a couple of weeks ago, but they’re back up to $56.99 for 16xAA or $38.99 for 12xAAA. At the regular price, I’d only buy them if I have an immediate need for them. But they go on sale about once a year, and I always order them when they do so I have lots in stock.

Oh yeah, you probably have to be a Costco member in Canada, but I’m not positive on that.

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Those are the latest Generation 5s and should have been made last June/July (2016,) making them the latest production batch to make it into America.

How do you tell generation 4 apart from generation 5? The ones I ordered this year have date codes that vary from April 2016 up to August 2016. They appear to look the same as the generation 4’s I bought last year and the year before that.

The only difference seems to be what is says on the box: 70% charge after 10 years. I think it used to be 5 years on the gen 4’s. But is that just marketing?

They’re all made in Japan. I was starting to get concerned that Costco might start getting the Chinese Eneloops, but it’s good they’re still carrying the Japanese ones.

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I’ve been buying these 2300mAh Energizer’s at Walmart for 7 bucks a pack. Says “Made in Japan” on the back of the package.

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Those are what I use, albeit different packaging, but it’s been 6-7 years since I got my last three quads.

Note that they say pre-charged, so they’re a low self discharge offering (LSD.) The 2000mAh Chinese Energizers referenced by the guy above, aren’t precharged, at least in HKJ’s sample, so they are HSD batteries that do offer a bit more capacity.

Remember, you can have LSD properties and long cycle life, or you can have higher capacities and fewer cycles, but you really can’t have both, so pick your poison.

I started out 5 years back with some AccuPower 2900mAh AAs, AccuPower 1200 AAAs and finally some Sanyo 2700 AAs and all of them gave me more capacity—a lot more, than the Gen. 2 Eneloops at the time, but all discharged more rapidly and all of them—24 different batteries, are long dead in the grave.

My Gen. 2 Eneloops, all bought at the same time are still kickin’ along, with only minimal loss in capacities, both AA and AAAs.

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leaftye wrote:
If they offer that coupon, it’ll be difficult for me not to buy every one possible. I also want them to put those led tube lights on sale again, both the tube replacements and the fixtures. My garage needs much more light.

You mean these?

http://www.costco.com/4%E2%80%99-Linkable-LED-Shop-Light-with-Pull-Chain,-2-pack.product.100284402.html

Don’t know if the singles are still on sale but I picked up 5 at $19.99 each about 2 weeks ago.

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RobertB wrote:
I’ve been buying these 2300mAh Energizer’s at Walmart for 7 bucks a pack. Says “Made in Japan” on the back of the package.

That’s one heck of a deal!

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Angler wrote:
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I’ve been buying these 2300mAh Energizer’s at Walmart for 7 bucks a pack. Says “Made in Japan” on the back of the package.

That’s one heck of a deal!

They might have been 7.69 or 7.95, but still a good deal. I know they sell out fast because they almost never seem to have them in stock. The AAA Energizer rechargeables were all gone. Duracell AAA pre-charged rechargeables are like 11 bucks for a 4 pack and there wasn’t many of those left either.

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leaftye wrote:
If they offer that coupon, it’ll be difficult for me not to buy every one possible. I also want them to put those led tube lights on sale again, both the tube replacements and the fixtures. My garage needs much more light.

You mean these?

http://www.costco.com/4%E2%80%99-Linkable-LED-Shop-Light-with-Pull-Chain,-2-pack.product.100284402.html

Don’t know if the singles are still on sale but I picked up 5 at $19.99 each about 2 weeks ago.

It looks like that. They’re still in the $20’s in my store, linkable and all.

The low mode should be lower.

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RobertB wrote:
Angler wrote:
RobertB wrote:
I’ve been buying these 2300mAh Energizer’s at Walmart for 7 bucks a pack. Says “Made in Japan” on the back of the package.

That’s one heck of a deal!

They might have been 7.69 or 7.95, but still a good deal. I know they sell out fast because they almost never seem to have them in stock. The AAA Energizer rechargeables were all gone. Duracell AAA pre-charged rechargeables are like 11 bucks for a 4 pack and there wasn’t many of those left either.

Around this time of year as around me you won’t find many rechargeable batteries besides the low mah rayovac ones. My guess is people are buying them to give with Christmas presents. I normally buy the Duracell ones they are $10 here. I’ve had to wait a month for a restock before. Seems like people really buy up the aa Duracell’s in this area. They always have the AAA. The only battery I’ve had a issue with is imedion. One vented in my nitecore ea41 on low mode. Bubbled the switch boot up. It went back in place but I was pissed. Maybe had 30 cycles on it. Will never purchase them again. A name people haven’t really heard of is odec they are cheap on amazon. Its $25ish for 16 batteries I believe. And they are good. I have 12 I rotate almost daily in a lantern we use a lamp and probably have 200+ cycles on and still going strong. Maybe lost a couple hundred mah. They are a tight fit in some things but fit in all my lights and such.

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Remember, the poorer batteries will still work well in the beginning, but quickly develop higher internal resistances, so that’s where the predominate problem lies. 48 cycles is nothing compared to a Gen. 2 (1500 cycles,) Gen. 3 (1800,) Gen. 4 (2100) and Gen. 5 (2100)

Chris

This is what I’ve experienced . I also buy by price so I get to play with lots of batteries . My early energizers were 25 cents a pop so I had to buy them .But I’m also happy that I re-sold most of them because they went DOA4 times quicker than eneloops/duraloops . I just grabbed some new Fujitsu AAA’s
and nabbed 8 amazon basic AA’s for 50 cents a pop ..Sadly I’ve never had a battery that actually said eneloop on it … I need some chinese labels for my japanese cells .

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Those are the latest Generation 5s and should have been made last June/July (2016,) making them the latest production batch to make it into America.

How do you tell generation 4 apart from generation 5? The ones I ordered this year have date codes that vary from April 2016 up to August 2016. They appear to look the same as the generation 4’s I bought last year and the year before that.

The only difference seems to be what is says on the box: 70% charge after 10 years. I think it used to be 5 years on the gen 4’s. But is that just marketing?

They’re all made in Japan. I was starting to get concerned that Costco might start getting the Chinese Eneloops, but it’s good they’re still carrying the Japanese ones.

There’s an Ebay seller(s) out of Sandy, Utah—ShopGL and they’re the US Distributor for Fujitsu and presumably Eneloops, since they market the latest of those, in case quantities. I’ve followed them for at least a couple of years and bought my Fujitsu AAs from them, along with the Fujitsu USB power bank/charger.

In his/her ads, they’re very forthcoming with the information about the history and the latest ‘batches’ in America. They also give us the rundown on ‘generations.’ The last Fujitsu batch to be imported to the US was June 2016 production, IIRC. I thought I read four weeks ago, when the Gen. 5s (70% after 10 years: the biggest clue) first started being mentioned, that they were mid summer production. Go by the packaging and the dates.

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tatasal wrote:

ChrisGarrett wrote:

Those are the latest Generation 5s and should have been made last June/July (2016,) making them the latest production batch to make it into America.

How do you tell generation 4 apart from generation 5? The ones I ordered this year have date codes that vary from April 2016 up to August 2016. They appear to look the same as the generation 4’s I bought last year and the year before that.

The only difference seems to be what is says on the box: 70% charge after 10 years. I think it used to be 5 years on the gen 4’s. But is that just marketing?

They’re all made in Japan. I was starting to get concerned that Costco might start getting the Chinese Eneloops, but it’s good they’re still carrying the Japanese ones.

There’s an Ebay seller(s) out of Sandy, Utah—ShopGL and they’re the US Distributor for Fujitsu and presumably Eneloops, since they market the latest of those, in case quantities. I’ve followed them for at least a couple of years and bought my Fujitsu AAs from them, along with the Fujitsu USB power bank/charger.

In his/her ads, they’re very forthcoming with the information about the history and the latest ‘batches’ in America. They also give us the rundown on ‘generations.’ The last Fujitsu batch to be imported to the US was June 2016 production, IIRC. I thought I read four weeks ago, when the Gen. 5s (70% after 10 years: the biggest clue) first started being mentioned, that they were mid summer production. Go by the packaging and the dates.

So, the difference is 70% for 10 years on the package, rather than 70% for 5 years? But, the cells look the same? I’m surprised they didn’t change the wrapper.

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The Costco Eneloops AAA’s are a 12 pack for the same $20 price as the 10 pack of AA’s.

The low mode should be lower.

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So, the difference is 70% for 10 years on the package, rather than 70% for 5 years? But, the cells look the same? I’m surprised they didn’t change the wrapper.

Late summer 2016 date codes and the 70% after 10 years is how I think we distinguish Gen. 5s from Gen. 4s, which are both 2100 cycles.

Frankly, I’m worrying more about the Zika virus than I’m worrying about my Eneloops.

I still have a 5th Anniversary sealed 8 pack of their Glitters, dated 9/2012! The first pack I opened all tested out pretty good.

Here’s my write up on them:

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?412914-Eneloop-5th-An...GLITTER-AAs-38-month-test

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So, the difference is 70% for 10 years on the package, rather than 70% for 5 years? But, the cells look the same? I’m surprised they didn’t change the wrapper.

Late summer 2016 date codes and the 70% after 10 years is how I think we distinguish Gen. 5s from Gen. 4s, which are both 2100 cycles.

IIRC, the 70% after 10 years statement has been around for about a year. But I have 4th generation that uses the 70% after 5 years on the box. So, was gen 4 marketed with both 70% after 5 years AND 70% after 10 years? If so, the marketing remains the same for “5th” gen, which makes me wonder if there really is a 5th gen. For all the other generations, they raised the number of cycles.

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IIRC, the 70% after 10 years statement has been around for about a year. But I have 4th generation that uses the 70% after 5 years on the box. So, was gen 4 marketed with both 70% after 5 years AND 70% after 10 years? If so, the marketing remains the same for “5th” gen, which makes me wonder if there really is a 5th gen. For all the other generations, they raised the number of cycles.

I don’t think it’s been around that long.

ShopGL (and other handles on Ebay) out of Sandy/SLC, Utah is the US Distributor for the FDK Fujitsu cells and is very knowledgeable on the timelines.

What I think is happening, much like with Lifestraw and Mountain House products, is that these ‘newish’ products are starting to test out over a longer period of time and hence, the shelf life gets extended.

Anyhow, one way or the other, they’re labeling things at 70% capacity after 10 years. That’s a big jump from where I started with my Gen. 2, 1500 cycles Eneloops back in early 2012.

They were like 85% after a year and 70% after 3 years, IIRC.

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Anyhow, one way or the other, they’re labeling things at 70% capacity after 10 years. That’s a big jump from where I started with my Gen. 2, 1500 cycles Eneloops back in early 2012.

They were like 85% after a year and 70% after 3 years, IIRC.

My gen 1 Eneloops (bought in 2006) are labelled 85% for 6 months, 75% for 1 year. I don’t think I ever measured it to see what it really was, but I think that was close.

BTW, they’re still in somewhat regular use, and still performing great. I use them in 2amp discharge applications, and they still have about 90% of the capacity compared to gen 4 (or 5?). Not bad for cells that are over 10 years old.

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Yesterday – May 22 2017 I bought the ten pack of AA Eneloops for $16.99 at the Waterbury Costco, the original price is $19.99.
An instant coupon for $3.00 brings the price down to $16.99
I have been watching for a price drop since December 2016.
The AAA’s twelve pack is also $16.99 with the instant coupon.

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