A Perfect Dedome?

Toluene, which seems to be a major ingredient of these thinners, are on the EPA’s hit list of 187 HAPs (hazardous air pollutants). A few of the other typical ingredients are probably on the list as well.

https://www.epa.gov/haps/initial-list-hazardous-air-pollutants-modifications

Also from the EPA’s page :

What we are doing have no impact compared to some big industries, but for yourself and those around you please be careful when boiling off these chemicals.

Well said DEL! I always use a gas mask when dealing with thinner or other dangerous chemicals. Thinner is a especially nasty chemical. I would never think of washing my hands in it after painting.

It’s always wise to read the safety data sheet beforehand, so that you’re sure that you have the right protection when using it.

Guys everything is dangerous and cancerous this days… Even barbecue, normal cigs E cigs… Smokers are greater pollutants than de domers :slight_smile:

Have you ever did coloring of metal surfaces like fences and similar stuff using regular paint brush? There is like 99% of chance that you will get dirty after that. Here in X part of the world(Balkan) people would laugh at you to see you wearing gas mask while working with paint thinner :slight_smile: To me this is hilarious even when I imagine that :smiley:

Of course you will not wash your hands with it when you cleaning yourself with it. You will put small amount of that on some cotton or small sponge and then you will dissolve dirty places on skin and then you’ll wash all that with soap.

There are so many chemicals that can harm us more than mentioned thinner.

But of course… We all should be very careful when de doming cause Mr. Devil never sleeps.

That’s not how I used to do it. Oh well, safety is everything nowadays… Yes, I would just wash my hands with it as if it was a liquid soap. I don’t paint stuff for the living, so I somehow survived the score of hand washings that I did in my life.

Yes your method is pretty common in X part of the world also cause people are not afraid of that. There are no house without paint thinner. It is in top 5 used solvents. I see you are from Poland :slight_smile: We love your tractors Ursus 330 335 :+1:

Turpentine @ Wikipedia

Mmm, this stuff is readily available at supermarkets/grocery stores over here…

May give it a try soon if no one warns against.

The ones I have de-domed so far with this :

I have been using this small glass with a lid :

I fill the glass to about half full, then with the lid almost closed I put it in a pot of just boiling water, wait five minutes it’s normally enough but if it need a bit more I change the water with some freshly boiled water from the kettle. When I am happy with the result I gently blow it clean with compressed air. I two LED’s in the jar I find it works best that way.

Regarding safety : I do it outside of the house, I don’t have a gas-mask but I normally make sure I have a lit cigarette in my mouth I can breath through just to filter out any fumes :wink:

Boiling it in large quantities is not the typical use scenario for paint thinner…

From mentioned article:

“The OSHA 8-hour time-weighted exposure limit for paint thinner (as Stoddard Solvent) is 500 parts per million (ppm). This is half the OSHA limit for exposure to acetone (nail polish remover), so paint thinners are not terribly hazardous. But, it has to be remembered that paint thinner vapors can irritate the eyes, nose and throat, in spite of their fairly pleasant odor, and can make one dizzy and/or nauseous if the vapors are inhaled in high enough levels over a long enough time period.”

So yes everybody beware when cooking with it. I also warned about that. But you would not really want to try second bolded section(inhalation of vapors)?
Edit: Put it on cooker. Stopwatch at 15minutes when it starts boiling and get out of there on beer or something :beer: When you return clog your nose and turn off cooker… Then go to another beer until all vapors evaporates :beer:

How to say… On our Balkan market thinner is as regular thing as some dish washing fluid. Even some grocery shops carry that on hardware section. You can’t do anything without it (painting, cleaning, de doming :slight_smile: )

I do not want to kill anyone’s fun. Actually very tempted to try it myself. All I am saying is be careful and use common good sense.

The ‘good’ part of toluene is that it is smelly and most people cannot stand the smell once it gets to a dangerous concentration. It is also not a proven carcinogen and does not accumulate in the body.

Short-term exposure effects (headache, nausea, muscle spams, dizziness, etc.) will go away. Long-term exposure can, however, cause permanent damage to the nervous system and brain.

https://www.epa.gov/sites/production/files/2016-09/documents/toluene.pdf

So if you guys do that in combination with beer technique or cigarette like Khas it will be a lot easier.

Only thing that worries me guys(USA and rest of the world) is what paint thinners do you have on your market… Maybe your are with stronger chemicals or more flammable for example?
On our market there are really some expensive paint thinners which I (and probably 80% of nation) never tried them.
So I will say if you will buying them use the universal thinner cheapest available. They should not cost more than 2-3$ per liter.

I am from Argentina, solvent came out 7 dollars a liter

If you inhaled dish washing fluid that would probably be just as bad.
The point is that you should have decent ventilation when stuff like that is in the air.
Open a window and turn on the exhaust or something.

I mentioned all that point about ventilation in my directions in several posts in this thread and especially in this post A Perfect Dedome? - #832 by luminarium_iaculator

If I only knew that it will cause so much issues and questions I would never mentioned my nitro paint thinner method.
Members like MEM, Mitko and now Saabluster holds their small secrets for themselves and I was stupid enough to reveal mine.
Now I know there are way more clever than I am. So this will be another “school” for me.

And the most interesting thing is when I already gave my detail described method that really works people tend to do it on their way anyway.

So good luck guys I am really not mad or anything but I am unsubscribing from this thread. I don’t have nerves for this paint thinner discussion any more.

A tiny ‘pressure cooker’ would be awesome, maybe Djozz can find a tiny “autoclaaf” (iirc) on his job.
I have a metal sealable cylinder that i use for gas dedoming by the way.
I can heat it up to more that 100°C without a problem.
It doesn’t seal perfectly (anymore, it’s old) but very little fumes escape and i use it in the bathing room near the air suction vent.
I would never heat up thinners without a cover in a badly ventilated room.

And that sucks.
Are they afraid of competition or something?

Not stupid at all.
Isn’t a hobby forum for sharing ideas and helping fellow hobbyists with solutions? (pun not intended).

Don’t go away - we are making progress here! :slight_smile:

Problem with these chemicals (here at least) is to cut through the branding and dumbed-down marketing. Way I see it there are four main ‘products’ of interest over here:

He’s just trying to make a big deal about him “unsubbing from this thread” because apparently he is upset I didn’t read the last 800 posts and said the same thing about ventilation as he did before.

I am very happy you revealed your method, I have tried many different solvents available here in Denmark but they didn’t work very well. The method I use have worked for me so far so I will keep using it.

Thank you so much for sharing :beer: