New 4XP Noctigon MCPCB for quad optic

[quote=ToyKeeper]

I just wanted to say that M43 driver could have full smooth dimming but it’s more technical issue. That’s the first time that I see this graphs, who is the source? I might have missed something because I’ve never used M43 only his free beta version “Indigo” they’re close but not the same regarding to interface and in reality it has completely smooth ramping, as i can see it. So I would prefer not to compare flashlights but more talking about driver features.

Open source? It’s fully open as mentioned above. May be the time for dedicated “Indigo” topic on BLF has come. Spread the light! :slight_smile:

[quote=kiriba-ru]

This is the key point.

I would pay even more if it worth it. Anyway I can do it by myself, no sense to argue. We are just discussing why we have that we have…

Yes, 2 years we waited Noctigon Meteor M13/M14 and got Noctigon Astrolux. Disappointment.

Disappointment is one thing.
Being rude is another…
Calling the D4 a “piece of shit” even before the first user review will not make Hank modify his product :expressionless:
I wish all the Russian crowd that show itself here to bash a new product was that effective to help BLF in making new products… but it seems easier to bash the Q8 for some people…

If you mean collaboration, as experience shows, it’s more phenomenon than real business. Talking is of little use. But that would be great.

:heart_eyes: :heart_eyes: :heart_eyes: Emisar I luv youuuuuuuuuu!!! :heart_eyes: :heart_eyes: :heart_eyes:

I think it would be interesting if someone from Russia (or any fonarevka member) would offer to sell those nice drivers here on BLF (and in English language).
Especially in Europe it is hard to find interesting drivers.
KD has a couple, but usually with horrible mode spacing… FT is the same…

It seems almost nobody on BLF interesting in hi efficiency driver , and convinient for daily use UI. DD and wow effect are the main thing here. It is great pity)

Yes… Or swapped to fresh one. 4 fresh cells should be enough for some serious use? But I really doubt someone will use turbo that often. We have middle or lower modes if needed.

I’m definitely interested.
But i get lost on fonarevka because of the language…

It seems Eastern Europe has much more experience and knowledge of electronics.

If you are interested I can try to translate the description of some drivers and send you by PM .

Sure more options would be better although it is a big pain for small seller…
Or Hank could also offer host option so we could build whatever we want :wink:

You’re very wrong. See the joy after every post in the GXB20/GXB17 threads.
But there’s a place for FET+1 too. It’s cheap and for many uses - it’s good enough.

Personally I can’t wait for Emisar D4, though I admit I hoped for a 3-channel driver.
And at the same time I’m seeking for the absolutely most efficient driver that I want to have in another light.

I’ve been thinking about it too…

The reality is next. If you wanted to make diy driver, you probably gonna have lots of questions, so that would be rather hard even reading forum through traslator. So I can answer the questions and give a few tips etc. how to assemble some of the fonarevka drivers. For example me and “Serp” know how to calculate Indigo, we’ve passed through this way.

Shipping is not an issue from Ukraine it’s about 23$/1 kg by air to any EU country. Yeah… I wish it would be cheaper but drivers are rather lightweight. As always need people and good contacts to cooperate. Interesting topic, worth to think about that more detail.

Not really, flashlight market and users demands are different. Don’t think that all of fonarevka hates D4, many folks gonna buy it :slight_smile:

It is nice to see so many russians (and ukrainions :slight_smile: ) chime in in this thread. I do not understand much of electronics but I like what is going on on Fonarevka, and if the forum was a bit more accessable (the language is a barrier for reading, but certainly for posting there, and perhaps also the culture is different) I’m sure there would be much interest from folks on BLF.

I agree, I am a little interested in trying them as well. I have been trying to get enough info from google translate, but it is not very helpful. I have not even found where to source the boards yet.

It is necessary to create a topic about Indigo 5.2 here on BLF.
There are at least a few ready-made solutions that have been implemented by mag_vitaliy.
http://forum.fonarevka.ru/showthread.php?t=36000
http://forum.fonarevka.ru/showthread.php?t=35427
http://forum.fonarevka.ru/showthread.php?t=30582
http://forum.fonarevka.ru/showpost.php?p=999143&postcount=550

The most difficult thing is to make a circuit board (for me).

Plus there are some moments for calculating the inductance and capacitors.

The basic principle of layout of elements on the board is considered. To ensure that the power part does not interfere with the signal.
http://forum.fonarevka.ru/showthread.php?t=26562&page=8

Reyden half a year ago delved into all the subtleties of building a driver.
But. Even if you assemble the driver according to the scheme that in the indigo theme on the most common elements - it will also work :slight_smile:
This is a very cool driver :slight_smile:

INFERION, the creator of indigo, these are the main points (for me, they were important)
http://forum.fonarevka.ru/showpost.php?p=421591&postcount=436
http://forum.fonarevka.ru/showpost.php?p=421619&postcount=438
http://forum.fonarevka.ru/showpost.php?p=421635&postcount=440
http://forum.fonarevka.ru/showpost.php?p=847002&postcount=202
http://forum.fonarevka.ru/showpost.php?p=845141&postcount=193

This is very interesting and deserves a separate topic :slight_smile:

If this had been a mini-Meteor, I would not have bought two. However, it is reflashable with inexpensive tools, if you would like to port Indigo to it. I would be happy to include that in the repository to help everyone find and access alternate D4 firmwares. I’m planning to make some alternate firmware for it too. :slight_smile:

Don’t worry, outside links are cool here. :slight_smile:

I have Indigo 5.2, dated 2013-12-17. It is old, and is not the same code that the Meteor uses. Do you have a copy of the Meteor code to share under an open-source license?

Exactly. The D4 has no such technical issue.

I made that graph. It shows the output levels for three lights on a visually-linear scale.

Not buying a Meteor is a good way to convince a businessman to make a mini-Meteor. :smiley:

The M43 has smooth transitions between levels. It gives a nice imitation of ramping smoothly, especially when adjusting levels in UI3. However, it can only stop at 9 discrete levels. The in-between levels are inaccessible due to the technical issue, and that is what the graph shows.

The D4 has actual smooth ramping, or pretty close anyway, with 150 discrete levels. It has stair-steps, but they’re very small and very close together.

Unfortunately, Indigo is not the same as what the Meteor used. Indigo also has no published license, so I cannot legally distribute it in the firmware repository. Indigo-compatible drivers are not easy to find or buy in most of the world. Assembly code may also limit its use somewhat, since it raises the barrier to entry.

Can you help with any of these, to make it fully open and available?

“Open Source” means more than just putting code on a web site. It also means giving the code a license which explicitly allows people to use and modify it. There are several open-source licenses to choose from, but I recommend GPLv3 for flashlight drivers.

I like where this is going. :slight_smile:

Am I the only one who finds ads on fonarevka extremely annoying?
Anyway, back to reading.
Very interesting links. Thank you Serp!