[Review] NITECORE Concept 1 (XHP35 HD, 1x 18650 / 2x (R) CR123)

What is the shortcut to moonlight?

2 clicks from off - moonlight. Well not really a moonlight. More of just a “low”
3 clicks from off or click and hold while on - turbo.
1 click from on - off

Note that this is in the “non-tactical” mode. In tactical mode 3 clicks goes to strobe.

So long click from off goes to last used mode. Does quick click from off do nothing?

Thanks for the review!

I didn’t quite understand the UI with a single click doing nothing while off, but now that you point out how easily one can accidentally activate the switch it makes sense. The name sure fits this light, probably their attempt to play with new concepts.

  • Long-click from off goes to the saved mode, not the last used mode. If you keep holding the button down after it turns on this way, the light will start cycling from min through mediums to max turbo, and then back to min. Release to stop cyclilng and save the mode. If you last-used min or max via the double or triple-click shortcuts, those won’t override the saved mode. When combined with the shortcuts, you basically have instant access to 3 different modes from off (min, max, and your choice of 1 other mode). This is a good thing.
  • The “long-click” to turn on to the saved mode isn’t that long…. seems to be require holding the light down for just 1 second. I actually like that much more than lights that require you to hold the button down for 2 seconds or longer.
  • Surprisingly, a single quick click from off does absolutely nothing. If the goal of not having a single quick-click do anything was to provide more protection against accidental activation Nitecore royally failed. This light activated accidentally within 30 seconds the very first time I stuck it in my pocket. Unless you use the tailcap lockout this light is more prone to accidental activation than any other light I’ve ever tried. Even more so than the old Zebralight SC51.

I agree that quick access to low, memorized, and high modes from off is great and IMO necessary for a good UI. This UI has those, but not being able to switch modes while on is just different. It’s not necessarily bad, but it’s so different from my other lights that it would probably dissuade me from buying it.

I felt the same way about the skilhunt H03 UI. Single clicks while on changed modes and a long click turned off. This was different enough that I just didn’t want to deal with the potential confusion when switching between lights.

Luckily there are great FWs that the community has developed and resources to learn how to flash them to your drivers. For me the golden standard for UI is: access to low, high, and memory from off, and the ability to go up and down in brightness. Toykeeper’s clicky and e-switch ramping FWs, as well as Narsil, allow this.

Light has so much potential, hopefully they get rid of that switch and flip the clip around in the next version of it

I got my Nitecore concept 1 in 9 days from banggood shipped to united states. user interface is very easy to use. It’s small and bright. thanks Nitecore and banggood.

Thank you all for your comments!

I just did a quick test to see how the Turbo with switch pressed affects to the performance of the flashlight:

As you can see, I’ve tested the Concept 1 while continuously holding pressed the switch after a shortcut-access to Turbo mode. I also tested the light with a INR18650-30Q and obtained better initial output and overal performance than with the Nitecore IMR18650 “for TM28” battery.

The stepdown must be (unconfirmed) by temperature. At the moment the light dropped the output it was really unconfortable to hold on the hand.

I’ll be updating the review to include this “feature” and also to modify the mode measurement chart with new numbers.

Cheers!

Thanks for this. I wasn’t aware of this shortcut. I’ll add this to the review too.
:beer:

Thanks for the review! :smiley:

Thank you for your very detailed and very valuable review.

I like lights that have the option of releasing the power of the cells in the shortest time for maximum lumens in short burst. Of course, I can choose lower mode for power conservation and longer run time and also for heat management.

This light occupies a salient position in the size/power ratio continuum, therefore, I am interested. I will ask (again) Going Gear when they will have this item.

I do like the Concept 1. The UI is decent. It feels good in the pocket and it feels good in the hand.

It’s a good light. But to be a great light, Nitecore needs to redesign the switch.

I see that the topic title shows “Updated” in red in the sub-forum topic listing. I see that means that the first post was edited, in this case, to add extra information.

Thank you again for your very detailed review.

By the way, GG has recently, in the past few hours, added this item to their list of new items.

Here is a concept 1 beamshot on high.

Hello

I got this light today and i dont like it !!!
Side button too easy to accidentally turn on
Heat too much and stepdown…

I prefer a S2+ and its 1\4 the price or this nitecore

Hello,

Is it normal for this torch to have a really small purple dot in the middle of the beam? I order the klarus xt2cr and it has the same thing, that coloured dot in the middle of the beam. Or does gearbest keep sending me defective lights?

Thank you

It is viable when you shine at short distance
Because the xhp35 is quad-core led, that’s a problem of all quad-core leds

Yep, purple dot, check…

Got one in today, ordered recently, coupon made it affordable (enough).
It’s a nice little thing, i like it.
Want to put in a XHP35 HI 80CRI (more throw), but didn’t realise the bezel is glued.
I’ll get it open with some heat, i hope…
If not, i might put a mild diffuser on the lens (less throw)

Once you have your ‘normal mode’ level selected it’s quite a usable UI i.m.o.
I like the momentary ‘turbo’ function.

Recently put in a 80CRI XHP35 HI it’s a 3A or 3D tint i think.
Had to make a tool to unscrew the bezel, but that went allright.
Has more throw and less tint shift now, but in stead of the purple hole it has a (less noticeable) small more yellow dot on a white wall.
It has cost me some lumens of course, but it’s still a very bright light.

The switch has been addressed too.
Quite simple solution, i put a (light grey) silicone rubber ring around the switch thingy:

No more accidental turning on.

That switch lever is great in the dark b.t.w.
You immediately find where to press.