Yuji VTC-series D50 5730-size midpower led tested

I would expect that cyan / turquoise coloured objects look more ‘vibrant’ when there’s also cyan in the light source spectrum.

(I’ll PM you shortly.)

These seem great for retrofitting to a magnifying-type desk lamp.

I just did mine the past weekend, using some neutral white 4014 LEDs from Aliex. Nice improvement, the original 5 mm ‘straw-hat’ LEDs were horrible in comparison. The PCB is single-sided and made for through-hole LEDs, but flipping it over and flowing the LEDs to the through-hole pads was not too difficult. 40 LEDs at 20 mA give plenty of light in that setup with no heat.

Now I will have to redo it :slight_smile:

Whoaaa, very nice colour! Now it’s violet die, next is purple (Seoul and Toshiba)
Thanks for testing Djozz!

Hi I joined just to make this post.
They now have 10W COBs in stock, VTC! MOQ just 5.

I love this yuji VTC spectrum by the looks of it.
So I ordered 5 yesterday, Im verry curious!!

but ONLY 450mA?

The thing Im asking myself is, can you amp them up?

Not a lot of info around, no spec sheet…yet?
https://store.yujiintl.com/collections/vtc-series/products/vtc-series-high-cri-cob-led-135l-pack-5-pcs?variant=45426214099

But yeah I am thinking what driver to take, I want a higher current dimming model, so I can overdrive them, but how much?
How far should I go?

Im gonna use big ass heatsinks so…

Anybody any idea? max 700mA? 1050mA? 1400mA??

ciao
Rokus

Just received mine yesterday. Will find a time to test them out. Thanks Jos =))

Sounds like a plan!
Front row here

Don’t expect quantitative tests like Djozz’s or Maukka’s. I will only use my camera, not the best valid test for comparing CRI, but it’s just fun thing to do.

For me it has mainly to do with the max current that is safe to run them cool enough for longer periods on end.

450mA seems like a very low estimate to me!

https://store.yujiintl.com/collections/vtc-series/products/vtc-series-high-cri-cob-led-135l-pack-5-pcs?variant=45426214099#tabs-3

(Talking about the COBs here VTC Series High CRI COB LED - 135L)

Keep in mind that generally leds will have degrading cri as they are pushed to their limits. There are s couple exceptions but to be guaranteed the rated cri, the rated current must be used. But this may not be a big deal for your purposes?

Don’t judge only by the max current. COB usually have very high voltage to boost efficiency for AC powered LED light engines. Total power = Voltage x Current. For a rated 10 watt output, 450mA, translate into ~22-24Vf. And yes, specified CRI measured at manufacturer’s rated operating output.

No light output is not really a big deal, although I was gonna light a bonsai plant under it in my livingroom. Now that you state it like that, it doesnt need to grow fast so it doesnt have to be super bright, just as long as the quality/efficiency surpasses my Truelight CFL!

not entirely, but the violet is at least there, the form factor is and the spectum is nice and smooth.

Good news!
Ted Bai from Yujileds just emailed me:

“Hi

I have attached the datasheet of VTC series 135L for your reference .

This is our latest datasheet and not yet been published .

You find all necessary information inside , including the maximum values .”

Yuji VTC 135L-G01

The bad news is, it is indeed low power. But that’s ok, its a beautiful product!

And the most beautiful if you run it exactly @ 450mA, because that’s where it’s calibrated at.

Mid power diodes, I heard someone shout, that’s where we’re going, small size and if you want a lot of light, put a lot of them together on a PCB.

https://store.yujiintl.com/collections/vtc-series

colour shifting from High to low K with 2 dimmers is also a very interesting option with these smashing spectra and boards. Of which the best, the one that looks like a quantum board, ofcourse is sold out lol, but those smaller boards mmmmm

Yuji VTC colormix

The violet spike is somewhat tempered in the new models btw, the gif shows the older spectrum…

:slight_smile:

Finally, I have a very nice super high CRI Yuji floodlight.

The host used is a cheap Krisbow 10 watt floodlight bought from Ace Hardware store. Nothing worth to spare except the case and the driver. This outdoor floodlight has a sleek full cast aluminum body and low profile design. The glass cover is just a simple windows grade glass with sharp edges.

The original MCPCB installed with blob of thermal paste which wan't screwed down properly due to burrs in fixing holes. Total garbage. When I try to de-solder the LEDs off the board, it started to bubble below 220C. I always monitor my hot plate temp.

Found a broken 4 watt bulb, another Krisbow. Took the MCPCB, looked better. The LEDs were 5730 but the solder footprint is slightly different. A little scraping here and there and it fits the Yujis.

It's time to mod the case. Some drillings and M3x0,5 tappings. Swapped the MCPCB from the broken bulbs. Made two slots for screw fixing...

The Yujis installed. Not perfect due to footprint mismatch. I prioritized to align the cathode pads first. The broken path to anode connected with extra solder.

Soaked the finished board in IPA to clean the burnt flux. Tried to brush the brown residue but later changed my mind, too risky.

Applied the trusty MoS2 grease simply because I always forget to buy fancy thermal paste

This time the board is hard pressed against the case/heatsink.

Lapped the back of the glass cover using 320 grit silicone carbide powder to create slightly diffused lens. Looks good!

The driver outputs 9,45 watt to all 9 LEDs @290mA. About 11 watts total power consumed. The case got warm fast but still manageable under 46C (26C ambient).

Comparisons (ceiling bounced)

Thank you for the LED Jos. Now I have a super nice 5000K comparator light

- Clemence

EDIT: In hot sunny day (31C) and still air, the floodlight reached 35C hotter (66C). This worries me for long term continuous use. Need to find lower power supply and possibly better MCPCB. Next will be a fairer comparison to 5000K 9080 E21A

Excellent mod work Clemence!

And nice 4500k and 4000k photos also!

Just got one of these from djozz. I’d say it is quite a nice simulation for daylight.

Testing done at the rated current of 120mA (Vf was 3.48V)

From what I understand about those graphs, that is really impressive.

I have heard that these LED’s can have high levels of UV radiation, what did you see in your testing?

I would not want to use them in a house if they are going to cause UV damage to everything in it over time for example.

The relative UV output at 380nm is an order of magnitude higher than on normal Nichia or Cree emitters. But the X7R for example has as much UV content on low as the Yuji on its rated current.

Man, those are very close to perfect! The have the highest deep-blue cri value (in addition to all the other higher values) which I have seen until now.
Now if only they would start making Power-LEDs. Something like an XP-L with 500 Lumen would be nice. :heart_eyes:

Those are some really impressive CRI numbers. I wish they were targeting the blackbody line instead of D50 though.

Any of those leds left?

Willing to ship to Spain? (I’ll take the extra cost, but please check how much it would be first. It might not be reasonable…)