"Hall of Shame" discussion thread

I agree. It certainly looks like huntking is directly connected to zanflare… All posts except one are connected to them. THUMBSDOWN

Give it to me! :innocent:

Yep, looks like huntking is a zanflare shill account.

halolily17 is spamming for Cosmo.

http://budgetlightforum.com/user/24115/my-posts

Cosmo is just ledflashlighting.com, which is #1 on the Hall of Shame list.

Figures. :slight_smile:

lighting.philips.co.in = spammer

+100000000000000000000

You asked for it

Guys, let’s respect Sb’s wishes and keep the discussions to PMs or another topic. No offense intended.

None taken :slight_smile:

i think zanflare is hype-y and spammy feeling, at least the bike light and who ever they’ve got pushing that thing

wle

I’ve just seen Zanflare pushing one of their lights on a thread where someone was asking for recommendations, and that feels borderline to me.

I feel that people asking for recommendations are looking for ideas from real users like them, rather than manufacturers pushing their stuff. The manufacturer’s vested interest in getting sales makes me nervous in that scenario.

I always hit the “mark as spam” button on those kind of posts.

Manker already very popular lately, why and how they did the spam?
Sorry, can’t resist not to ask.

- Clemence

Just PM the vendor, and ask. It helps if you can show examples of previous reviews. Some prefer new reviewers to review lower cost products first, and if they are happy, then they will allow you to review higher priced products. They also like it if you are on multiple forums (e.g. BLF, CPF, Reddit), post videos (YouTube), and are on multiple social media platforms. I’ve never had any issues from vendors with any negative comments in reviews, though I try to word things politically e.g. if a light overheats in 30secs, recommend it for “experienced users” who can manually step down, rather than complaining too much about poor heat handling.

they give out free samples and “multiple ”reviews”“:Search results for '' - BudgetLightForum.com appear in the non commercial forums

if you click that link you will see at least NINE separate “reviews” of the Manker E02, just on the first page of the search result. I searched for “review marker E02”

this is another example of a Vendor using “reviews” for Social Media Marketing.

imo, ALL “reviews” should be in the commercial forum. When I click the non commercial link on BLF, I do NOT want to see multiple “reviews” of the same light, over and over, and over and over, and over and over, and over and over, and over…. (that was 9 times over)

if you go to page 2 of the search result, you will find even more E02 “reviews”

You would think the E02 is a very popular light, but actually its just a pile of freebies being distributed to “reviewers”.

As long as people continue to get free samples, they will continue to SPAM the NON COMMERCIAL forums with “reviews”.

People who get free lights are participating in SPAMMING, unless they post their reviews in the Commercial Forums ONLY!

Yeah, but sometimes you can be asked to review a light that you ordinarily wouldn’t buy. Eg, I’m not a fan of AA lights at all except a very few 1×AA lights, so I’d never go and buy on my own a light like a Zanflare F2, or Jaxman M2, etc., even if they’re exceptional lights in their own right.

But if I’m asked to review one of them, hellyeah I’ll say yes. 20bux, even 10bux, it’s not worth it to me. 0bux (or loose change like with a 99%-off code), absolutely. From there, I can give it away, sell it (tacky, but…), or if I do grow attached to it somehow, keep it.

The criteria I use is whether/not the review is honest enough to help me make a good decision whether/not I’d want one. Doesn’t matter to me if the reviewer paid full freight, or got it as a freebie, as long as it’s honest.

reviews are great for making purchasing decisions

reviews ARE commercial by nature, and that is my point, reviews belong in the Commercial forums

when I click NON Commercial, reviews should not show up.

Im not against reviews, I just don’t think they belong in the NON Commercial Forums

Especially not TWELVE Times, like the E02

Lets just stop pretending that reviews are non commercial, they are SPAM, intended to generate sales. Put them in the Commercial Forum, to STOP flooding the non commercial forum with multiple reviews of the same product.

But where does that stop? Nichia vs Cree vs SSC vs…

“Ooh, the new XP-L3 came out, here’s my review…” And no one from Cree sent anyone any samples. Tekkie info like Vf, efficacy, thermal performance, etc., are “reviews” of a sort.

I paid full freight on all my RJ02s and DV-S9s, yet I can’t help but sing their praises when anyone asks for a rec about a headlamp or variable-output light. I just like them that much. :smiley:

Lots of people here love Simon/Convoy, and RMM/MTN, and recommend them at every turn, and for good reason. That doesn’t bother me in the slightest, even though that’s clearly “commercial”, recommending a business.

Part of why people come to BLF is to see “reviews” of lights that they may be interested in. Or what LED to use, or where to get parts from, or… I’d have a hard time trying to figure out where that line is even if I put my mind to it. Getting slapped down for not “reviewing” a product in the commercial section is a good way to scare away n00bz and veterans alike.

Just playin’ Devil’s Advocate here…