EagleEye X6R or other pocketable thrower capable of Narsil?

The X6 is my favorite pocketable thrower. I have two running Bistro.

I just put Narsil on my new Emisar D4 and have fallen in love with ramping! :heart_eyes:

Now I want a pocketable thrower with Narsil.

I want a side switch, and prefer a tail switch for lockout. Onboard charging isnā€™t required.

The EagleEye X6R is my first thought but wondered if there are other similar options.

If I go with the X6R, can I simply swap in a MTN FET+7135 driver with an ATtiny85 and flash Narsil to it?

Mountainā€™s 17mm FET+7135 driver shows an option for ATtiny85 without firmware but the 20mm doesnā€™t.

Thereā€™s an option for e-switch on both drivers, but it seems that includes only an ATtiny13.

How is the side switch wired to the Mountain driver? Iā€™m new to modding e-switch lights.

Iā€™ve seen the X6R thread involving stacking custom drivers on the stock X6R board, but Iā€™d rather avoid custom PCBs and ordering individual components if possible. I wouldnā€™t use built-in charging anyway.

I decided on the X6R with a Texas Avenger driver.

Iā€™ll report back when I get it assembled.

(use the pictures on kronoā€™s original X6R thread as reference)

You should have no problem piggybacking a single-sided 17mm driver on top of the charging board. Youā€™ll want to use the charging board as a contact board anyways and as long as you donā€™t damage it the charging function will still work in a pinch. There are 3 pins/posts on the stock driver: Switch, Batt+, and Batt-. Youā€™ll just have to run 3 wires to replace those posts.

Shouldnā€™t be very difficult at all.

Thanks, PD. Iā€™ve perused Kronoā€™s X6R review thread and saw the piggy-backing that you and others did.

I also saw your thread with your polished, heavily-modded X6R. :heart_eyes: You may have inspired me to try ano strippingā€¦

I ordered a 20mm TA driver running NarsilM after reading that TomE measured the stock board at 19.9mm when you asked him.

Could I still do as you suggest with a 20mm driver or will I run into clearance issues? I couldnā€™t find the diameter of the charging/switch PCB.

Iā€™m a newbie when it comes to modding. Iā€™ve only done some simple same-size driver swaps and a couple of emitter reflows. Iā€™ve only this week bought re-flashing tools and successfully swapped firmware on a D4.

I probably should have waited to have an X6R in my hands before ordering parts, but patience isnā€™t my strong suit. :smiley:

the parts on the 20mm Narsil drivers are only 2mm thick, but for the positive wire through the middle hole you need a few mm clearance

Thanks, Lexel.

I was confused about whether the 19.9mm diameter measurement TomE mentioned was referring to the charging/switch PCB or the driver PCB.

While revisiting Kronoā€™s X6R thread, this post by TomE confirms that the driver board is indeed about 20mm diameter.

The only problem is that you are going to have to run a wire from the charging board to the top of the driver. It can be a tiny wire, but you might have to cut a notch for it.

My EagleEye X6R and 20mm Texas Avenger driver with Narsil have arrived.

Iā€™m a bit confused on how to wire the TA driver to the existing X6R charging/switch PCB.

Iā€™ve disconnected the two stock PCBs and labeled the pads A, B, C, and D.

Hereā€™s my X6Rā€™s charging/switch PCB. I poked around with my meter and it seems A is ground, B is positive, C is for the red/blue switch LED, and D goes to one leg of the switch.

Hereā€™s my X6Rā€™s stock driver PCB.

Here are the two sides of my 20mm TA driver.

Here is Lexelā€™s photo about connecting the 20mm TA driver from this post.

PDā€™s photo of his piggybacked driver setup from this post seems to show a different stock X6R charging/switch PCB than mine. His has only three pins connecting the two stock boards, while mine has four.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

A ground

B +, but I highly recommend to scratch the paint off and solder the wire there or drill a hole (for the wire) where all the viases are next to the spring

C is a LED, you can probably use the TA indicator LED output here

D switch

on my picture the left of the switch/indicator LED pads is the one you need to connect

Thanks Lexel. I think I understand a bit more, but Iā€™m still unsure.

Wire from the stock charging boardā€™s spring, through a hole near the vias, connected to the TAā€™s spring pad. Another wire from the TAā€™s spring pad up to LED + on the emitter board.

Pad B on stock charging board will be unused.

Wire from pad A on stock charging board to ground ring on TA board.

Wire from pad D on stock charging board to TAā€™s switch pad nearest pin 2 of ATtiny85.

Wire from large leg of FET to LED - on emitter board.

Iā€™m still unsure about pad C and the indicator pads on the TA board. Are you saying to connect pad C to left indicator pad through a resistor?

Thanks again for your help. Am I getting closer? :slight_smile:

The indicator LED is accessable at pin7 of the MCU as well as on the near side of R1 and R2
also you may not need or not a resistor for the indicator LED depending how it is wired on the chargin board

without the indicator LED the driver is working fine

Success! :partying_face:

I bench tested my setup and everything seems to be working, including the charging circuit.

I skipped the indicator LED for now. I usually find them distracting while using a light. It will still function while charging.

I wanted to share my ratā€™s nest of a test rig. Both power leads are red for extra confusion and excitement! :smiley:

Iā€™ll report back again once the light is assembled.

Lexel, thanks again for the driver and the help with installation! :+1:

The rats nest is the greatest part of a mod! You get to see if it lights up :slight_smile:

Bummer when it doesnā€™t though. Or when it does and the not once every thing is final soldered and packed away. Thatā€™s the worst! Iā€™m sure it wonā€™t happen to you though. :stuck_out_tongue:

The X6R is fully assembled and working!

I bypassed the tail spring and swapped in the XPL-HI and MCPCB from my Kronos X6.

Iā€™m looking forward to taking it out tonight after dark! :smiley:

video or it didnt happen.

Dā€™oh! I was so excited to get the light assembled that I totally forgot to take any photos before I closed it up!

I had the opportunity to use the X6R in a very dark open area this evening. It quickly became my new favorite ā€˜pocketableā€™ thrower.

My friend, who has a Kronos X6, used the X6R with Narsil for about ten seconds before asking, ā€œYouā€™ll build me one, right?ā€ :smiley:

I opened the X6R to reflash the driver with ToyKeeperā€™s excellent AndĆŗril UI.

I also lengthened the emitter wires so I can access the back of the driver without unsoldering next time.

I took some photos of the driver and switch/charging PCBs while I had them out.


Well done on this and great pictures. My own X6R is still my most-used light and lives on my nightstand

Thanks, PD!

This light is still working great, and I still really love the X6Rā€™s form factor.

AndĆŗril is excellent with the dual-switch configuration.