Manker Timeback II 2200 Lumen Titanium Spinner Flashlight is releasing

A 18650 without spinner please !

I agree with the major sentiments here - I donā€™t like the deeply crenelated bezel (looks dangerous for pocket-carry), the spinner seems misplaced in an expensive metal flashlight (how many fidget spinners are dropped several times a day?), and, lastly, the price is way too high. It moves it into conspicuous consumption, status symbol territory!

Just my 2Ā¢ā€¦someone went too far with an otherwise pretty sharp looking light. Love the lines (rugged/tactical? look), the colors (breaking up the copper is nicer to my eye). The bezelā€¦too much. Iā€™d hate to be arrested for carrying a concealed weapon? The spinnerā€¦no words :person_facepalming: The priceā€¦YIKES!!!

Interesting product due to the ingenuity to combine a flashlight with a spinner. :+1:
Build quality is visible excellent.
I see a mismatch in the target groups. On the one hand expensive materials such as titanium and copper and on the other spinner, which is extra only for the audience with smaller financial opportunities. This is in general case, of course.

I would probably have bought some for gifts, but obviously Iā€™m not in the right target groupā€¦

Come on guys! Theee are 750000 flashlight out there without a strike bezzel and spinner. There is just one that does. I like it! Nowā€¦ Manker, do I get to be the first to review and try it out? :innocent:

No high CRI Nichia? :frowning:

I think your comment here means you think only poor people, or maybe kids/unemployed people buy spinners. If you think that youā€™ve missed a large community of enthusiasts and collectors paying hundreds and even thousands of dollars for premium spinners. Thatā€™s not to say that I think of them will buy this (although I think some would) or that I think this is a good product (doesnā€™t appeal to me), but donā€™t make the mistake of equating spinners with lower income brackets. That couldnā€™t be further from the truth.

I think this light is fun. Over the top well done!

And could wight and Toykeeper ever have thought that their driver would feature in a light like this? :partying_face:

definately not a budget light

for collectors from CPF its ok, but the design is far from a practical light

Humm at the price of (3) D4 ā€œBLFā€ lights I am pretty sure the market will vote and the idea will be short lived.

Sans spinner
Sans pocket tearing bezel

And what is up with 6500k? Whoā€™s idea was that?

It looks like a very cool futuristic light. Battlestar Galactica or very post apocalypse.

Ah we will at east be able to say I remember whenā€¦

It definitely comes as a bit of a surprise. I didnā€™t expect my firmware to run on a fidget spinner. But I agree, the over-the-top nature seems fun. Anyone complaining about the spinner or the deep crenelations is missing the point. :smiley:

Mankerlight, you should totally send me a stonewashed Timeback II. Thereā€™s no obligation, since the code is open-source, but it would be nice to have the worldā€™s first open-source fidget spinner light since it has my code on it.

At minimum though, for legal compliance, you do need to include a copy of the code or at least a link to it. The product page mentions that the code is available but it doesnā€™t actually have a link. For full details on this, read the ā€˜COPYINGā€™ file included with the code, or any other copy of the GPLv3 license.

Give ā€™em a few weeks, UTorch will come out with a cheaper copyā€¦ :smiling_imp:

Ow! Stop it! Stop hitting meā€¦

Yeah, itā€™s kinda Star Tracky, or at least Star Warsy. Cuteā€¦

Coupon code for 75% off that price? Lolā€¦.

It definitely comes as a bit of a surprise. I didnā€™t expect my firmware to run on a fidget spinner. But I agree, the over-the-top nature seems fun. Anyone complaining about the spinner or the deep crenelations is missing the point. :smiley:

Mankerlight, you should totally send me a stonewashed Timeback II. Thereā€™s no obligation, since the code is open-source, but it would be nice to have the worldā€™s first open-source fidget spinner light since it has my code on it.

+1

1967: ā€œI bet there will be flying cars in the futureā€
2017: 2,200lm flashlight with integrated spinner

Joking aside, I think it looks great. Ditch the spinner, make a better clip, add nichia option, 18650 battery tube, price it <$100 and Iā€™ll buy it. Although if you only add 18650 and nichia option and lower the price I would still buy it.

I hope you get at least some sort of credit for the FW (and even better if itā€™s the monetary type), theyā€™re even using the very same UI chart and everything.

That would be me. An overpriced gimmick. I just donā€™t get it.

It would be cool to get something out of it, but there is no legal obligation to do so. Thatā€™s how open-source works. The main legal obligation of ā€œshare and share alikeā€ is ā€¦ ā€œshare alikeā€. Thereā€™s nothing in there about ā€œsend money to the authorā€, though I definitely wouldnā€™t complain if someone did! :slight_smile:

Without dev costs, and no doubt having access to all the spex, cost is essentially just materials.

Eg, Kerman Lights contracts with WingDing Manufacturing for 10,000 lights. WingDing makes 20,000 lights, buys twice as much material (at a greater volume-discount), gives the first 10,000 to Kerman Lights as agreed upon, and sells the remaining 10,000 under the TooYorch brand.

Kerman bears the dev costs, etc., and prices their lights accordingly, plus a nice healthy profit via MAPs, etc.

TooYorch prices them certainly to cover material costs and profit, but still significantly lower than Kermanā€™s prices (artificially higher via MAPs, so quite easy to do).

So TooYorch undercuts Kerman for pretty much the same light (eg, even the Kerman logo on the drivers!).

Or so Iā€™ve heardā€¦

Cynic is my middle name.

I changed it from Boutros-Ghali.